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03-11-2017, 07:22 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Auburn
Posts: 879
M.O.C. #18474
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When we ordered our new Monty we asked the dealer about the residential fridges. I really wanted the RV one as we boondock about twice a year, but my wife wanted the residential one. The service manager took us out behind the shop where they had 11 residential refrigerators sitting there. He said that was the ones he'd already replaced since the first of the year and it was March then. At that time they didn't have a good life span, but now I just might go with the home style next time even though my wife loves the double RV one we have now.
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03-11-2017, 07:57 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Kville
Posts: 2,865
M.O.C. #7871
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Golfmedik
...The service manager took us out behind the shop where they had 11 residential refrigerators sitting there. He said that was the ones he'd already replaced since the first of the year and it was March then. ...
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That really doesn't make any sense. Our refers in our stick houses last for decades. The roads we travel aren't that bad. My guess would be people are not using Pure Sine Wave inverters. I'm not an electrician and can't explain the difference, but I do know PSWs should be used with residential refers.
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03-11-2017, 08:44 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 7,550
M.O.C. #2283
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The more you are hooked up to shore power the less you need an RV refrigerator. If you boondock a lot like me the RV model is the way to go. If you are hooked to shore power every night go with the residential model.
Lynwood
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03-11-2017, 10:45 AM
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#24
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 20,229
M.O.C. #2839
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When our RV fridge cooling unit failed we replaced the cooling unit with a quality cooling unit from a Amish place Goshen, Ind. Set on 5 I have to chip the ice cream out with a ice pick and at times put in in the Micro wave to soften it enough t o scoop it out.
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03-11-2017, 11:16 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Livermore
Posts: 5,144
M.O.C. #1920
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Just my two cents. We've now had (3) Montana's with RV fridges. The newest one keeps ice cream solid. But, just like floorplans, it will depend upon how you use your RV. If I stayed in RV parks all of the time, spent a lot of time in very hot weather I would probably go Residential. We live in the mountains, boondock a lot, spend weeks at a time off the grid and the RV fridge works great for us. Good luck with your decision. There isn't a right or wrong in this - there's what will work best for you.
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03-11-2017, 11:41 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Haysville
Posts: 4,261
M.O.C. #3085
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Adding to Golfmedik's revelation of the crapped out residential fridges he was shown .... as in most all things RV in our price range, what accessories get put in them are toward the low end of the product line. I doubt if the residential fridges being installed stray from that statement. Camping World by Kansas City had quite a collection of crapped out residential fridges as well last Fall. However ... as has been pointed out ... both sides of the fridge choice has had owner satisfaction.
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03-12-2017, 08:10 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Brandon
Posts: 3,944
M.O.C. #1034
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Have we heard from a MOC member that has had their residential crap out since they started installing them in Montanas???
Not to my knowledge.
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Minnedosa, Manitoba, Canada
2011/3500/Silverado/4x4/DRW/Duramax
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03-12-2017, 08:38 AM
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#28
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Hixson
Posts: 3,436
M.O.C. #11397
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Our RV reefer has worked just fine for going on 6 years now to include keeping ice cream hard. Having said that, IF the RV unit bites the dust it WILL be replaced with a residential unit. We no not boon dock.
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03-12-2017, 08:41 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Hanover
Posts: 1,471
M.O.C. #13325
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TLightning
That really doesn't make any sense. Our refers in our stick houses last for decades. The roads we travel aren't that bad. My guess would be people are not using Pure Sine Wave inverters. I'm not an electrician and can't explain the difference, but I do know PSWs should be used with residential refers.
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Think about it. The unit inside your home never as ambient air temps above probably 75 degrees or below 65. The one in an RV will experience temps far above and below that. Look at the specs on one, and find what the max. and min. operating temps are. Doesn't matter if you boondock or not, the inside of your rig will get hot and cold all the time. That, along with how much we dry camp is why we're happy with an RV one.
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03-12-2017, 12:50 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Hillsboro
Posts: 593
M.O.C. #8238
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We are now on our 5th RV, 4 of them 5th wheels. We've NEVER had any problems with the RV refers, even up to outside temps of over 100 degrees. The newest one, in our 3810 is a Norcold, as was the previous one. This one is large, 18 cubic feet. So far it's doing just fine. The wife freezes ice for our water cooler, in 3 pound chucks. Never had a problem with them being hard as a rock. One thing that RV units ARE notorious for, is air stratification internally. There are aftermarket kits that can take care of that. The new Norcold has figured that out. It now has built in circulating fans in both the refer and the freezer to take care of that. We shall see how it does as time goes by. I've got gages in both fridge and freezer to check things. We let all know if we find anything of importance.
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03-12-2017, 02:55 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Auburn
Posts: 879
M.O.C. #18474
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IIRC, the service manager stated that all of them had bad control boards in them and it was cheaper to replace the unit than to repair it at that time. Keep in mind this was March of '16, so I'm sure adjustments have probably been made to stay in the new market for the fridge companies.
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03-12-2017, 03:06 PM
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#32
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Ore City Texas
Posts: 1,648
M.O.C. #2224
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Quote:
We are now on our 5th RV, 4 of them 5th wheels. We've NEVER had any problems with the RV refers, even up to outside temps of over 100 degrees.
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My experience as well.
I wouldn't try to convince anyone, not even suggest to anyone, but just to report of our experience of 20 years and almost 100,000 miles of fifth-wheel traveling--not full time, but trips of a month or so.
We have had four fifth-wheels, each of a different brand. All had stock RV refrigerators. Our first was a well used model. We had to replace the cooling unit in that one. All the other fifth-wheels we bought new. All the refrigerators worked great: ice cream firm, etc. We have traveled many miles with the refrigerators OFF. More recently we have been using the propane while traveling. Of all the problems we have had, the refrigerators (except for that first one--and it was a total failure with a leak, it worked fine before failure and after replacement) have never been a problem.
Now, I know posting this is a challenge to FATE, and I may pay the price. But I am not challenging those who have a different experience or opinion.
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03-13-2017, 04:16 PM
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#33
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: winter garden
Posts: 102
M.O.C. #17865
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We replaced or norbomb with a residential last year after it almost burnt our Monty up with dogs inside. The residential has run flawlessly this past year and we will never own another r/v with a bomb in it. Just my .02$ worth
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03-14-2017, 05:43 AM
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#34
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Kville
Posts: 2,865
M.O.C. #7871
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The "which refer" question is one that should be asked of those who have had both models. If you have only had one type, you have no basis for comparison.
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03-14-2017, 07:20 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: owen sound
Posts: 491
M.O.C. #17566
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Have a 2015 3790RD with the RV fridge, large 4 door model and no issues at all. Bought the RV model as we boon dock at bluegrass festivals throughout the summer months. My sister bought the residential fridge in her Monty at the same time, they had 4 six volt batteries installed at time of purchase and when they boondock with us they have dead batteries by the second day and need to run their generator for hours to charge them up for the night time. They don't have a spot to store the trailer between weekends that has power and have to empty it out every Sunday. So glad we bought the RV fridge and she wish's she had done the same..........
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03-14-2017, 08:49 PM
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#36
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Established Member
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Central Oregon
Posts: 41
M.O.C. #13256
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I assume that most residential fridges run off an inverter. Are they still pulling off the batteries even when plugged into shore power? If so does this affect the life of the batteries.
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03-15-2017, 08:02 AM
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#37
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Sebring
Posts: 3,658
M.O.C. #9969
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Quote:
Originally Posted by warsw
I assume that most residential fridges run off an inverter. Are they still pulling off the batteries even when plugged into shore power? If so does this affect the life of the batteries.
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Think it depends on the inverter. Our Magnum has a built-in transfer switch, so once shore power is applied it sends it directly to the Fridge outlet and the Inverter goes into a sleep mode.
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2018 Chevy 3500HD High Country DRW 4X4 Crew Cab w/Duramax/Allison, Formally 2010 Montana 2955RL, Now Loaded 2016 SOB, Mor/ryde IS, Disc Brakes & Pin Box, Comfort Ride Hitch, Sailun 17.5 Tires.
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03-15-2017, 08:54 AM
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#38
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Established Member
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Central Oregon
Posts: 41
M.O.C. #13256
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mhs4771
Think it depends on the inverter. Our Magnum has a built-in transfer switch, so once shore power is applied it sends it directly to the Fridge outlet and the Inverter goes into a sleep mode.
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Perfect.....Thanks
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03-15-2017, 08:59 AM
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#39
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Stafford Springs
Posts: 524
M.O.C. #17256
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Quote:
Originally Posted by warsw
I assume that most residential fridges run off an inverter. Are they still pulling off the batteries even when plugged into shore power? If so does this affect the life of the batteries.
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No when plugged into shore power the residential refrigerator runs off the 120v AC the power pedestal provides. you can keep the inverter running, but it will go into pass thru mode and just monitor the 120v AC passing thru it. It is not pulling from the batteries until you unplug, then it switches to Inverter mode.
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2014 Ford F-350 Lariat 6.7L PSD
2015 Keystone Montana 3711FL
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03-15-2017, 05:21 PM
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#40
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Established Member
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Central Oregon
Posts: 41
M.O.C. #13256
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cw3jason
No when plugged into shore power the residential refrigerator runs off the 120v AC the power pedestal provides. you can keep the inverter running, but it will go into pass thru mode and just monitor the 120v AC passing thru it. It is not pulling from the batteries until you unplug, then it switches to Inverter mode.
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Great info.....Thanks.
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