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01-21-2020, 09:14 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: owen sound
Posts: 491
M.O.C. #17566
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$80,000 - 100,000 units that they put junk furniture in... Looks good at shows and show rooms but lasts about 2-3yrs and then starts flaking & falling apart. Lippert/Thomas Payne supply most of or all of the THOR lineups. They no the furniture will start falling apart and yet continue to use it. If our car interiors started to fail like this there would be hell to pay. Replacement of $10,000 or more and the hassle of doing so is going to eventually catch up to these companies and their market share will fall. We had planned on trading in our 2015 in 4-5yrs but there is little to no point in that as the repairs will start again for things that should have been done right the first time and the new ones have the same issues and even less quality than their predecessors.... Sad state of the RV industry that will come back to bite them in the arse in a few short years........
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01-21-2020, 05:14 PM
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#42
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 20,229
M.O.C. #2839
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It is true the pleather furniture flakes in short order and is a common and well known issue in many brands. We had the pleather changed out when we ordered our 13 3402 as we knew about that problem for years.
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01-21-2020, 06:58 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Rock Island
Posts: 1,074
M.O.C. #10457
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We own land in Sinkhole country so we pitched ours Montana furniture into the hole, archeologists in the distant future may study this Montana Furniture Culture, and graduate students may write thesis about how it made good erosion control. Next we pitched our King Bed mattress into the hole and it was even better at slowing the down erosion. If we could get enough Montanas furniture manufactured and pitched we could stop up or slow down the sinkholes.
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02-01-2020, 06:06 PM
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#44
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Established Member
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: HAMMOND
Posts: 30
M.O.C. #18015
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Leather Furniture Also Peeling
All the "leather" furniture in our 2-yr old 2018 Montana 3950BR is peeling bad in some areas. I thought when I bought this RV that I was purchasing a "premium brand"....but not the case. Cheap furniture, A/C doesn't cool very well, had problems with the furnace, control board on one of the A/C's needed replacement. And of course none of this happened within the 1-year warranty!
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Wisconsin resident (Retired)
6/6 Winter Texan (South Padre Island)
2018 Montana 3950BR
2013 Chevy Silverado 3500HD Duramax DRW
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07-30-2020, 02:22 PM
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#45
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New Member
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Bakersfield
Posts: 4
M.O.C. #21748
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Our 2016 3711fl furniture is trash 2 couches and recliner peeling and look horrible we will have to replace them all, absolutely no help from Keystone or insurance they say normal wear and tear.
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07-30-2020, 03:39 PM
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#46
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Cedar Park
Posts: 135
M.O.C. #17531
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Same thing happened to our 2015. We spent over 2 months off and on negotiating with Keystone and lippert (actual furniture supplier). Best offer we got was 40% discount on new furniture. Disgusting to say the least.
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Jack & Rebecca
2015 Montana High Country
2006 Ford F250 SWB, 4X4, 6.0 diesel
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07-30-2020, 04:06 PM
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#47
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Carson City
Posts: 2,017
M.O.C. #21963
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Quote:
Originally Posted by saber707
Same thing happened to our 2015. We spent over 2 months off and on negotiating with Keystone and lippert (actual furniture supplier). Best offer we got was 40% discount on new furniture. Disgusting to say the least.
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I would say that's a win in this scenario compared to what they usually do about furniture. I'm guessing the discount is for the same brand. A refund for another brand would be better. Anyway, congratulations.
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2016 3160, Legacy, Sailuns, Splendide 2100 xc vented, 1 1/2" axle lift blocks, disk brakes. 2014 Ram 3500 SRW SWB 4X4 6.7 Aisin Mega Cab, EBC slotted disks and brakes, Titan fuel tank.
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07-30-2020, 04:55 PM
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#48
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: 1000 oaks
Posts: 955
M.O.C. #19630
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Took my peeling/flaking "Pleather" sofa to a local Auto/RV upholstery shop and they replaced the covering with new better material. I was impressed. Copied the original pleats and pattern perfectly.
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2011 2955RL Gen-Y Executive Kingpin
2022 GMC 2500HD Duramax/Alison
4X4 Crew Cab/Standard bed.
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07-30-2020, 06:44 PM
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#49
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Lamesa
Posts: 621
M.O.C. #26010
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Danny and Susan wife of 55 years
2019 Ram Laramie 3500 6.4 4x4 CC 4.10 SRW
2020 Montana High Country 331RL
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08-02-2020, 12:45 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Fullerton
Posts: 209
M.O.C. #22148
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We found on our last trip a few weeks ago that the "pleather" on our theater seats was starting to shed and peel on the head rests. Since our 2016 3160 RL is now four years old, I hold little hope that Lippert or Thomas Payne would be of little help to us.
We have a good friend who is owns an upholstery shop near us. When our 2013 Crossroads 5th wheel had the pleather start to fall apart, he was able to match exactly the color of the fabric in our couch with a vinyl/naugahyde and did an excellent job repairing it. I'm going to give him a call and see what he can do to match the color of our dark brown theater seating and do his magic.
Don
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Donjamin & Laurie
Fullerton, CA
2016 Montana Legacy, 3160RL
2015 Ford F-250 SD 4X4
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09-22-2021, 01:44 PM
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#51
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New Member
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Sandwich
Posts: 3
M.O.C. #21321
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Furniture peeling
Our 2017 fake leather furniture is starting to peel and shed
Has anyone found a good place to buy fitted slip covers?
Can’t afford new furniture.
2 electric recliners and the couch
Thanks
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06-29-2022, 09:55 AM
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#52
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New Member
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Bakersfield
Posts: 4
M.O.C. #21748
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Everyone on this string needs to stop complaining about their super expensive Montana and just buy new furniture and make it even more expensive. After all your furniture in your house starts delaminating after a few years of everyday use “RIGHT” …get in line sheepel and do what the people who sold you this amazing trailer and just forgot to mention that the furniture would be junk in about 2 years. Thank you and have a good day.
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06-29-2022, 02:10 PM
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#53
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Fullerton
Posts: 209
M.O.C. #22148
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tolomei’s
Everyone on this string needs to stop complaining about their super expensive Montana and just buy new furniture and make it even more expensive. After all your furniture in your house starts delaminating after a few years of everyday use “RIGHT” …get in line sheepel and do what the people who sold you this amazing trailer and just forgot to mention that the furniture would be junk in about 2 years. Thank you and have a good day.
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Wow, you are pretty harsh! Have you priced out new RV furniture or priced out the cost of re-upholstering the furniture in our Montana’s? Try $2-$4k or more. After 3 years of use, why should “quality furniture” deteriorate? It will happen if Keystone is using faux leather furniture covering from Asia. The urethane in the fabric starts to break down and release the leather fibers embedded in it. Since this all happens in the 3rd to 4th year of ownership, the deterioration is no longer covered under the Keystone warranty and they could care less.
We have owned two 5th wheels since 2013 and both units had the faux leather start to fall apart in the 3rd and 4th year of ownership. This is an RV industry issue. There is no guarantee that if you replace your current RV furniture with new ones, they won’t break down in time as well.
Don
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Fullerton, CA
2016 Montana Legacy, 3160RL
2015 Ford F-250 SD 4X4
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