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Old 06-04-2008, 10:20 AM   #61
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Surely they wouldn't do THAT (reduce refinery out to raise gas prices), would they Rich??? With all the governmental oversight agencies? Surely, they would protect us from deliberate actions of a company/industry designed to injure consumers (and further destroy the economy)??? After all look at all the tax dollars going to pay their salaries...

Kinda reminds of a Senator during the credit card company hearings last month. After hearing testimony after testimony from severely injured consumers, he turned to the head of the governmental banking oversight agency and said point blank, "What good are you???"
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Old 06-05-2008, 10:05 AM   #62
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PRICE OF CRUDE UP $5.65 TODAY... Convert that into the price of gas and diesel over the next couple of weeks if not sooner.
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Old 06-05-2008, 10:37 AM   #63
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Well, this will not directly affect me, as we don't do the casinos.

But, made me wonder, one of the Casinos in Detroit went to Chapter 11, cause they are in trouble, what with building a 400 room hotel and other stuff.

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Old 06-05-2008, 10:56 AM   #64
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You know there is a upside to all this. Had to get propane today and the propane guy said that his sales are way up. Over memorial day more campers than he had seen for years came in for propane.He showed me the data..triple over last memorial day and ..they were paying in cash when previously most of the transactions were credit card??? The two dozen or so campgrounds that our local camping group uses( all within 100 miles, most within 50/60) are booming on weekends as more folks stay local. I tried to book into a local CG the end of June and they were full. Un heard of. There are a couple of new moderatly priced resturants in town and they are doing very well.
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Old 06-05-2008, 01:39 PM   #65
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Stimulus checks and Credit cards are maxed out and everyone is staying closer to home. Just wait a couple of months.... GBY.....
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Old 06-06-2008, 06:06 AM   #66
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Well, the price of crude was going up this morning, up over $6.00 per barrel. I had found a CircleK/Shell that had diesel for $4.49, I had filled up my truck day before yesterday but held off filling my saddle tank because oil had went down some, wishful thinking. So I jumped in the truck this morning, drove down to the station and filled up the extra tank before any increases.

Someone said crude would be at $150.00 per barrel by July 4, the market took off.
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Old 06-06-2008, 06:54 AM   #67
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Oil is out of control up 6.46 as of now. Up 5.65 yesterday. looking a 135.00 bbl...?? something has got to give... The US dollar is sinking and folks are bailing out..Who it doing anything about this.. Were is our governmnet...Why are we in a self destruct mod???
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Old 06-06-2008, 07:08 AM   #68
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Was listining to T Boone Pickens in an interview yesterday about oil, now here is a guy that knows oil. His comment was when you are producing 85billion barrels of oil and the use is 86.5 billion barrels of oil the math is simple, the price will increase. He also said something that was disturbing, we are sending out of this country over 700 billion dollars to other countries,for energy, some that are our friends and some that are not, thats more $ than a year of supporting the war in Iraq. His strong comment to that was if this continues this nation will be broke in a few years. Just thought I would that happy thought with you.
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Old 06-06-2008, 08:13 AM   #69
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Hang on to your diesel tank, oil is up $8.13 and going higher.

Be careful where you park, fuel stealing will go up with prices looking like they are on the way up even more.
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Old 06-06-2008, 09:43 AM   #70
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Where's it gonna stop????? As of 1:45PM CST crude futures are up $10.68/bbl to $138.61. Going to be hard to move the Monata at these prices!!!!!
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Old 06-06-2008, 09:52 AM   #71
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Up 8.66 as of now.. Am I the only one beginning to panic..The dollar is being devalued .My pension dollar, 401K dollar, CD Dollar, Saving account dollar, Travel dollar is shrinking. I feel the impact because the price of everything has gone up 30/40% in the last few months. Continental airlines reported the price of jet fuel increased by 100%..that's right 100% in the last 12 months. We have a food item in our pantry that we purchased before we went to Florida November 07 price marked at .99 cents. Yesterday at Giant Eagle it is price marked at 2.02.. That is a 100% increase. Oh Ohio Edison advised us our Electric bill will be going up 1.2% starting 1 july.. Our combined income has increased by Zero dollars since the first of the year and with the sinking dollar our purchase power has decreased.... We had a home break in in our nice middle class neighborhood last week..We have been here 18 Years and that is the first one. We are being told to keep our front pole lights working and keep lights on in the house and the outside grounds.. Am I over reacting??? The Rich household is moving to DEFCON 4...
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Old 06-06-2008, 09:53 AM   #72
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Here's another reason to park the rig.
http://www.usatoday.com/printedition...06_dom.art.htm
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Old 06-06-2008, 10:26 AM   #73
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A bit off topic, sorta??

Gas price today in Tecumseh, one of the highest places in this county was $3.95 for regular. Sorry no diesel prices seen.

We refilled some propane tanks this AM in Tecumseh, last fall Al filled our 30 pounder there and paid like $22.00, today it was $28.00. He was rather annoyed, as we pay $17.50 for the same bottled filled in the RGV, and they COME to you, you don't have to haul that monster anywhere, get it out of your rig, carry to the front of your lot, leave check for $17.50 in a baggie clipped to the bottle and you are good to go.

He called another place we know that REFILL, not SWITCH bottles, and it was $15.00 for the 20 pounder and $25.00 for the 30 pounder.

First place quoted us $3.79 per gallon for propane. I am not sure what the current price is for bulk delivery to the house, but, it scares the beejeebies out of me, last winter while we were gone we got a $700.00 propane bill for November, December, January, and I believe part of February. December we left on the 18th and the heat was at 47 from then till we got back in April. Will we be able to afford propane if we are forced to stay in Michigan next winter cause fuel is so high??

Man, this is getting messy.
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Old 06-06-2008, 11:00 AM   #74
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I dont know whats up.. but I'm here at crossville tn since this past monday. when I got here diesel was $4.65 to 4.69 gal. ebery day this week it has dropped. today irs $4.47 to $4.49.9, but its looks great to be dropping even if its for a while.
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Old 06-06-2008, 11:06 AM   #75
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Tom, you had better fill every can you got, it won't stay there long. Price of oil went up over $10.00 a barrel today, highest one day increase in 22 years. Unemployment went up, stock market fell 400 points.
Nothing is getting better right now, hopefully all this mess will stabilize soon and things will at least slow down.
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Old 06-06-2008, 04:17 PM   #76
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Prepare for $150.00 by July 15th or before. Our Country is in serious trouble, and its going to get much worse. I paid $4.69 for Diesel today. And they haven't raise it to catch up with the $138.00 + a barrel yet. Delaine wrote all our Congress and our representative's and told them the Country is in a crisis and action should be taken now not tomorrow. She also told them we wouldn't vote for anyone who doesn't support drilling for Oil were ever it may be, and want send any more money period. We are waiting for a response. Good Luck... GBY......
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Old 06-06-2008, 04:29 PM   #77
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Tom: Get a couple of drums and fill them up. Then haul them up to Jamestown for me please. I will use them in October when we are there.G
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Old 06-07-2008, 02:27 AM   #78
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I still have to get home from New England and I'm dreading what the price will be in July. But I have to go home. (Don't i?)

On the news last evening was an article about an apartment fire. Some guy wanting to save money before prices went up on fuel, bought the fuel and stored it in containers in his apartment. The fumes eventually made it to the gas hot water heater pilot and kaboom!

So, with that said, and you intend on stockpiling, please do so in approved containers and outside away from buildings. Don't be hauling that stuff around in the basement of the Montana!
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Old 06-07-2008, 02:33 AM   #79
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Ok ..These fuel prices just hit were it hurts, We were going to do our annual "wine trip" along the shores of Lake Erie. We have a list of about 7 or 8 wineries that we purchase from. Taking the Honda at 4.00 per gallon, about a 30% increase in the price of the wine and lunch at our favorite winery and a 300 mile or so RT would have set us back @ 300.00 or so (including the cost of the wine. In the sprite of cutting back we decided not to do that..300.00 is fuel to Florida money. Now we will not be able to get our favorite labels and will have to stoop to drinking super market wine... Enough is enough..
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Old 06-07-2008, 04:06 AM   #80
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Well I guess we had some Luck yesterday. Call the Propane company and told them to fill our tank for the House. Well it was $2.90 a gal here in Tennessee. The younster's in their little suit and ties caused all the increase on the floor of the stock exchange its greed on the back of the little people. Very few people on the river this morning and it will be less next week. I also went and filled the tank for my Tractor and it was $4.69 and they said it would go up this week. Oh well we let this happen. GBY...
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