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Old 01-05-2021, 07:24 PM   #1
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Plug in to 110V outlet ?

I am planning to add some gravel to the area where my Monte sits here at the house. I will need to relocate and park the unit on the other side of the house temporarily for a few weeks while I do the work. If I plug into 110v outlet will it keep batteries charged and the residential fridge running? Or do I just need to disconnect the batteries, open the fridge and just let everything sit until the work is done?
 
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Old 01-05-2021, 07:28 PM   #2
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A 110 volt outlet will keep your battery charged. I keep mine plugged into a 15 amp outlet and everything except the AC works.
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Old 01-05-2021, 07:52 PM   #3
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Old 01-05-2021, 08:25 PM   #4
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As long as you don’t run any high current devices/appliances you will be fine just keeping the batteries charged. Mine stays plugged into a 120 vac 15 amp outlet in storage any time we are not using it. If it’s a 20 amp outlet even better.
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Old 01-06-2021, 06:33 AM   #5
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You will be best if the outlet is NOT a GFI outlet. Seems that a lot of GFI outlets don't play nice with our RVs, but you might be OK, won't know until you try.
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I usually hook mine up at home a couple days before a trip to top off the batteries and get the residential fridge good and cold. A 15 amp 110v outlet will work to charge the batteries and run the fridge. Most things like lights will work, but I wouldn't try using the microwave or turning on the water heater or AC. Not enough power for that.
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Old 01-07-2021, 09:18 AM   #7
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We had ours plugged into 120vac then to a 30A adapter then to the 50A cable. Worked fine. Even ran 1 AC unit. All about power management. The MOST you will have is 15A. Stay within that and you will be fine.
Make sure you use a 12 gauge cord and unroll it all the way or better (10 gauge). Our first attempt was with a 16 gauge cord. The magic smoke came out.
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Old 01-07-2021, 09:44 AM   #8
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We had ours plugged into 120vac then to a 30A adapter then to the 50A cable. Worked fine. Even ran 1 AC unit. All about power management. The MOST you will have is 15A. Stay within that and you will be fine.
Make sure you use a 12 gauge cord and unroll it all the way or better (10 gauge). Our first attempt was with a 16 gauge cord. The magic smoke came out.
He is right about rolling out the cord all the way. If rolled up and undersized heat builds up to the melt point. But sometimes even an under sized will work if rolled out all the way flat so the heat can dissipate.
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Old 01-10-2021, 01:34 PM   #9
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Mike: When we moved in to our current stick home I added a 50 amp plug near my front porch. Our routine before we go on a trip is to bring the rig home and park in front of our house. With the factory 50 amp cord and a 10 ft 50 amp extension cord it reaches the outlet perfectly. This allows us to check the operation of the AC's, put up the DISH rooftop antenna and make sure the TV's work OK, turn on the fridge, and turn on a small chest freezer. We spend a day or two loading up, then the night before we head out I run a 25 ft 12 gauge extension cord from a garage 110 volt outlet through adapters to the trailer. The next morning we just put the cord back in the garage, I make sure the fridge changes over to propane, and we leave. The chest freezer has never not stayed cold over up to 8-9 hours of driving. Never had an issue, tripped breaker in the house, etc. You should be fine.
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Old 01-10-2021, 03:51 PM   #10
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Mike: When we moved in to our current stick home I added a 50 amp plug near my front porch. Our routine before we go on a trip is to bring the rig home and park in front of our house. With the factory 50 amp cord and a 10 ft 50 amp extension cord it reaches the outlet perfectly. This allows us to check the operation of the AC's, put up the DISH rooftop antenna and make sure the TV's work OK, turn on the fridge, and turn on a small chest freezer. We spend a day or two loading up, then the night before we head out I run a 25 ft 12 gauge extension cord from a garage 110 volt outlet through adapters to the trailer. The next morning we just put the cord back in the garage, I make sure the fridge changes over to propane, and we leave. The chest freezer has never not stayed cold over up to 8-9 hours of driving. Never had an issue, tripped breaker in the house, etc. You should be fine.
Don't use propane on the road! Asking for trouble.
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Old 01-10-2021, 04:59 PM   #11
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Commenting with conviction on propane usage on the road is kinda like striking a match with the book cover open waiting for the smell of sulphur. Most all have seen the photos of burnt up RV's ... weigh the "what if's" against your personal comfort zone.
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We had ours plugged into 120vac then to a 30A adapter then to the 50A cable. Worked fine. Even ran 1 AC unit. All about power management. The MOST you will have is 15A. Stay within that and you will be fine.
Make sure you use a 12 gauge cord and unroll it all the way or better (10 gauge). Our first attempt was with a 16 gauge cord. The magic smoke came out.
Use a 20 amp extension cord, takes care of problem
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Old 01-11-2021, 09:51 AM   #13
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I know lots of people run their propane side of the fridge on the road, and I used to. Converted my Dometic to a 12v compressor driven unit. Operates just like a residential fridge but don’t need an inverter and can run it while traveling with no issues or fire risk.
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Old 01-11-2021, 10:21 AM   #14
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You should have no problems whatsoever plugging your camper into a 110 outlet from anywhere in your house. We did this for years with all of our previous campers (they were 30 amp).

You will need the appropriate step-up adaptors to start with the 110 house hold plug to a 30, to a 50. The cord running from there to the camper can be anything, as long as all you are doing is keeping batteries charged and the refrigerator running. Remember, the power converter will also be running, and any parasitic draw from televisions, radios, any appliance plugged in.

The heavier gage wire extension cord you can find is better. But really, not necessary for just battery tending.

Just remember, what you plug into, 15 amp, 20 amp, 30 amp, or even 50 amp, will be all the max amps you can pull on that one circuit. So if that one circuit (line) powers stuff in the hosue, part of that 15 amps, 20 amps, or 30 amps is being used inside the house. But if you exceed the amps, the worst that happens is the breaker pops at the breaker box.

If running a normal utility type extension cord and the amp draw is to much, they will heat up. Stretching them out does help cool them.

We have, in the past powered our 30 amp campers from the outside plug on the house or garage and ran a 100 foot normal orange utility type extension cord. We were able to power a television, keep the battery charged, run house lights (as they run off 12 volt), shower, and sleep in the camper quite comfortable. We did not run the air conditioner, but we did run the furnace many times.

You'll have no problems doing this, just be aware that everything running on that one circuit does not exceed the breaker amp. Again, the worst thing that will happen is the breaker will pop.
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You will be best if the outlet is NOT a GFI outlet. Seems that a lot of GFI outlets don't play nice with our RVs, but you might be OK, won't know until you try.
Definitely keep your frig and freezer away from the GFCIs. They can trip for reasons outside of a ground fault and there goes your food.
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You can get a 50 amp to 20 amp dog bone and use a good 12 gauge or heavier cord depending on the distance to the house outlet.
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Update: the outlet already exist and it is not GFCI. I am just planning for a project in the next few months to get a RV carport structure installed. I have to move the Monte to the other side of the house, spread and compact some gravel, the get the carport structure installed. I only want the Samsung fridge to keep running and keep the batteries charged...no intentions of running anything else.
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Old 01-11-2021, 07:00 PM   #18
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I like most people run their refrigerator while traveling. If it was a big problem you would see campers burning on the side or the road and I have never seen one.
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Old 01-12-2021, 07:26 AM   #19
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When I had an RV frig, I always had it on while traveling. When it is cold I will start the furnace for the last few hours before stopping for the night. None of my vents are covered by the slides.
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Old 01-12-2021, 08:42 AM   #20
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Been running our propane fridges on the road for well over 20 years.
Just like the millions of others. Its what they are built and designed to do.

We will continue to do so until we are no longer in the game.
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