Need new tires - suggestions? - Montana Owners Club

Phyllen · 05-04-2009, 10:04 AM

I have 2006 F250 Super Duty Crew Cab 4x4 towing a 2009 Montana 3455SA. Before we take off to fulltime I plan on replacing the original tires. They are BF Goodrich Rugged Terrain. L265/70R/17E. I am looking for a good stable, safe replacement. I sure would appreciate your suggestions and/or experience regarding best brand for my needs. Thanks so much.

Leonard

ols1932 · 05-04-2009, 03:33 PM

I put Michelins on my tow vehicle. The wear I get is very good. Over 50K miles and still a lot of tread. Have to change them due to age.

Orv

rames14 · 05-04-2009, 04:32 PM

When we have to replace ours, they will probably be Michelin's.

deadeyenevermisses · 05-04-2009, 06:34 PM

My favorite tires since 1990 have been BF Goodrich All Terrain T/A's, on a Suburban then a 2006 2500HD 4X4 Crew Cab L/B. Then I went to a 3500 Duramax Crew Cab L/B 4X4 and alas, no such tire in size 21585R16. I ended up with six of Costco's Michelin XPS Traction. Extremely deep tread and a very quiet traction tire, and filled with Nitrogen?

Glenn and Lorraine · 05-04-2009, 11:16 PM

Michelin LTX M/S.

LonnieB · 05-05-2009, 02:43 AM

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Michelin LTX M/S.

This is an excellent tire, Michelins best IMHO. The only problem is they don't make it in a load range E in the size Phyllen needs, LT265/70R17. They DO make the LTX A/S in a load range E, but I don't feel it's as good as the M/S.

The BFG Rugged Trail T/A is also an excellent tire and readily available in the size and load range needed. It's a high mileage tire with good all weather traction.

TOYO Open Country A/T is another good one, also readily available in the size and load range needed. Rated for 50000 miles, but I rarely see it happening around here. Too many dirt and caliche roads.

My personal favorite is the Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revo. It is a high mileage tire with excellent traction in all weather conditions.

mail2us · 05-05-2009, 06:09 AM

We have the Bridgestone Duravis 700 L265/70R/17E on our 2007.5 Chev and they have been a good tire thus far with about 20k miles and tread looks excellent. Not sure if that tire is still being sold but Bridgestone has others as Lonnie mentioned.

Art-n-Marge · 05-09-2009, 07:58 PM

Hey, since I have the same truck year and model I think those are the tires I have. I have only 46,000 miles on my truck and will be replacing my tires in about 5-7000 miles (the tread and wear are doing well).

On tires, first, know all the specifications of your current tires - size, speed rating, number of plys, load rating (wear ratings are bogus since there is no standard), THEN look for major brands. Michelins tend to be expensive because they are good tires. Goodrich, Dunlop and Goodyear are good but MAY not last as long (sometimes they wear well, sometimes they don't). I have not had good luck with Bridgestone on heavy vehicles (truck, SUV or luxury car) - wore out too quick, but maybe a different model would have been better.

You might want to do an internet search to find the brands and models that meet your needs prior to marching off to the tire store to prevent the encounter with the sales dude just trying to sell you some special they are running. I prefer to pick the truck tire I want versus what a salesman telling me what to get. I am not so concerned with my auto tires since it does not involve 10 tons.

Happy tire hunting,

sgtpp214 · 05-10-2009, 02:11 AM

Our Dodge's OEM Michelins gave us 105,000 miles therefore replaced with bran spanking new Michelins. CG owner ourside Houston in convesation said he retired as SE regional Michelin rep. When I told him I rotate and balance every 15,000 miles and have pressure at 75r-60f when towing and 40r-50f when not he said that was the way to do it and they would last easily 100,000. Higher initial cost, but the per mile cost better than other tires that may give less total miles.

LonnieB · 05-10-2009, 10:17 AM

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quote:By Art-n-Marge.
(wear ratings are bogus since there is no standard0

Please elaborate I would really like to know where this comes from.

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(sometimes they wear well, sometimes they don't).

The same can be said for every tire manufactured in the world today. Road conditions, maintenance, and driving habits play a major role in the longevity of any tire.

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quote:By Art-n-Marge.
I have not had good luck with Bridgestone on heavy vehicles (truck, SUV or luxury car) - wore out too quick, but maybe a different model would have been better.

This is your personal experience and it goes along with your other statement of (sometimes they wear well, sometimes they don't). I see 50000 to 65000 on Bridgestone tires on a regular basis. I even saw one set of them with 92000 miles, I know for fact as I installed them new on the truck.

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quote:By Art-n-Marge.
You might want to do an internet search to find the brands and models that meet your needs prior to marching off to the tire store to prevent the encounter with the sales dude just trying to sell you some special they are running. I prefer to pick the truck tire I want versus what a salesman telling me what to get.

I don't know where you have been buying tires, but contrary to what you would heve everyone believe, this is not common practice among tire dealers. Reputable dealers will go out of their way to see that you have all the information you need to make your own decisions. True, they will want to sell the brands they are affiliated with, but if you don't want one of those brands go where they sell what you want.

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quote:By Art-n-Marge.
I am not so concerned with my auto tires since it does not involve 10 tons.

The safety of your passengers, yourself and everyone else on the road with you is far more important than the fact that you are not weighing 10 tons with the auto. JMHO.

KathyandDave · 05-12-2009, 01:44 PM

Our GMC came equipped with General Tire Ameritrac tires. The truck only has 20,000 km (12,000 miles) on it. The front tires have have already visibly worn on the inside edge. A tire guy said that the front axle must have been overloaded to get that wear pattern, but we've run it with less weight (maximum actual 1100 kg each tire, usually about 1080) than than its rating (E - 1215 kg each tire) and a hair more or less than than the FAWR/2 = 2177/2 = 1089 kg each tire. We've rotated the tires but I don't anticipate a better result from the "new" front tires. I'm looking longingly at a deal at Costco for the LTX M/S's. Any comments on their wear characteristics?

LonnieB · 05-12-2009, 04:49 PM

Dave, I seriously doubt the front axle of your truck has been overloaded. It sounds more like an alignment problem to me. I would have it checked soon before the wear gets any worse.

The Michelin LTX M/S has excellent wear characteristics.

Montana Sky · 05-12-2009, 05:09 PM

I ran the Toyo Open Country A/T and got 55,000 miles out of them (great tire). I currently have the Goodyear Wrangler Prograde on the truck and these have 53,000 miles. Overall I have been very happy with the Wranglers as well. I will be needing new tires in another 6k-7k or two to three months and am planning on going with the BF Goodrich All Terrain.

KathyandDave · 05-15-2009, 08:32 AM

The dealer's service guy spotted the wear before I did and showed it to me. He put the truck on their alignment machine and it tested just fine (I have the paperwork somewhere, not that I know how to interpret it). He said he used to be in the tire business and opined that the tires were junk and that I should "get some Michelins".

Sinterior · 05-15-2009, 09:52 AM

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I ran the Toyo Open Country A/T and got 55,000 miles out of them (great tire). I currently have the Goodyear Wrangler Prograde on the truck and these have 53,000 miles. Overall I have been very happy with the Wranglers as well. I will be needing new tires in another 6k-7k or two to three months and am planning on going with the BF Goodrich All Terrain.

IMHO a very good tire, but have no tread warranty and wear quickly when towing a heavy load. I had a new set put on and wore over 50% tread in '05 going across Canada and back (23000k about 14000 miles)towing a 10,000lb fiver with an '03 2500HD S/B 4X4 D/A and yes I had them rotated twice on the trip. The Goodyear Silent Armor wear at about the same rate, and now use Michelin LTX M/S which are wearing much less than the others (they are not very good on ice and snow) and I use winter tires when I'm at home in winter.

Peter

richfaa · 05-15-2009, 10:14 AM

"They are BF Goodrich Rugged Terrain. L265/70R/17E. I am looking for a good stable, safe replacement. " We have that same tire OEM on our 08 F-350 Dually. At 20K miles they look like new. Why are you considering changing brands???? They are a bit noisy and I may change tread style when the time comes.?? They seem to be a reliable tire.

Fordzilla · 05-22-2009, 01:54 PM

I am still running the OEM BFG Rugged trails on my '06 DRW, like mentioned above I rotate them and keep them inflated properly and we have 70k on them now and they will last another year of driving before I replace them with the same tires. Why mess with a good thing?

sreigle · 05-25-2009, 09:52 AM

My '05 Ford F250 came with BFG Rugged Trail T/A tires. They wore very well. I swapped them for a new set of the same thing at 70,000 miles. The originals still have 5k to 7k miles left but we were coming into snow and ice time and I wanted more tread.

My '07 Dodge 3500 came with the same BFG Rugged Trail T/A tires. I was very pleased about that. At 45,000 miles they look like they will easily reach 70k or more miles, including all our towing. The tread pattern normally associated with trucks is not going to be as quiet as tires for passenger cars. But I've never noticed any unusual or excessive noise with the BRG Rugged Trail T/A tires. It may have some noise but I've not noticed it.

I also like the Michelin tires but I believe the BFG Rugged Trail T/A is the better bang for the buck simply because it gets similar mileage and performance for fewer dollars. Either will do a good job for you.

richfaa · 06-01-2009, 05:36 AM

The mileage reports on the BF Rugged trail tire are encouraging. We have those on our 08 Ford and at over 20K miles show practically no wear. Since some folks place the OEM ST camper tire and the OEM tires on the truck in the same category. I was considering changing the truck tires out at @ 30K. I always thought that BF goodrich tire was a reliable tire.

Desert RVer · 06-01-2009, 05:53 AM

Michelin LTX M/S

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