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06-10-2021, 09:39 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Mena
Posts: 504
M.O.C. #17723
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Water Pump Upgrade
I have upgraded my water pump and accumulator.
SeaFlo Water Pump
https://www.amazon.com/SEAFLO-Pressu...rfy_rp_crs_0_t
Accumulator-Tank
https://www.amazon.com/SHURFLO-182-2...d_bap_d_rp_6_t
These 2 items come with connectors to build this assembly, including the strainer.
I mounted assembly to plywood.then screwed to stud with a piece of 'belt' webbing in between.
super quiet. And with low flow, it pulses.
Additional items needed found at local hardware store:
2 – PexLock couplers
4 – hose clamps
2 – 3ft ½ in. ID braded hose
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Ron & Rhonda
2021 3230CK Montana Legacy w/ Super SolarFlex
(old rig) 2015 Montana 3611RL 8K I.S., Disk Brakes, Sailun Tires
2015 F350 XLT Crew Dually 20K B&W Companion
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06-10-2021, 09:46 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: POINTBLANK
Posts: 1,916
M.O.C. #19944
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Doing that when I get back
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RAM 22' DRW 3500 Crew LB 40 gal reserve tank / RETRAX Bed Cover / 2020 373RD HC / IS / MOPEKA Tank Monitor / Furrion Side&Rear Cameras
Slide Toppers / EMS-HW50C / Sailun 85's
3rd AC / Dometic 320
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06-10-2021, 01:11 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Hixson
Posts: 3,436
M.O.C. #11397
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ram Montana High Country
Doing that when I get back
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Yes, it's a great idea and clean installation but be sure to read the reviews on that particular pump regarding warranty issues.
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2018.5 Montana 3791RD
Full Timers 9/1/2010 through 1/16/2020.
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06-10-2021, 01:19 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Haysville
Posts: 4,261
M.O.C. #3085
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You'll enjoy the accumulator ... Don't know what you paid for it, but fodder for others contemplating this upgrade. Menards or Lowes carry a 2 gallon pressure tank for around $50 and it is compatible with an RV water system. All you need is a 1/2" Sharkbite Tee for the bottom on a vertical mount and a strap hand formed out of light gauge metal to hold it to a wall or stud. Eliminates the instant on from your water pump after opening a faucet or flushing the stool. Here's a link from about 6 yr ago.
https://www.montanaowners.com/forums...ht=accumulator
PS ... both examples so far in this post are self draining when winterizing time comes.
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06-12-2021, 12:26 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Livermore
Posts: 5,183
M.O.C. #1920
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We ordered the same as Ron, plus I ordered the hose kit. What have others used for under the pump feet for vibration isolation?
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Ron and Terrie Ames plus Meg - MOC #1920/KF0NTA
2021Montana 3230CK Super Solar+ Legacy Package
2021 Ram 3500 Laramie Longhorn, BIM Charging
4x4, SRW, LB, Crew Cab, Pullrite 3900 Hitch
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06-12-2021, 03:24 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Alton
Posts: 2,898
M.O.C. #24086
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rames14
We ordered the same as Ron, plus I ordered the hose kit. What have others used for under the pump feet for vibration isolation?
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I installed the same 1 quart accumulator. I'm thinking of moving it to the hot water line as an expansion tank to take the pressure of expansion/contraction off the tank. Then install the 2 gallon one on the cold line under the island sink with a T fitting to drain it for winterizing.
To answer your question regarding using other material under the feet of the pump for noise dampening, I used left over rubber drawer liner from Walmart. I just folded it over about 4 times then put a screw through it.
Others have used foam (computer) mouse pads.
Anything that will absorb vibration from the pump.
Also put 1/2" foam pipe insulation on every pipe you can reach. Especially put it between the pipe and any wall/frame surface. I slide it up the pipes behind the shower wall. Very effective.
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06-12-2021, 10:33 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Costa Mesa
Posts: 37
M.O.C. #24836
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Another picture of that crazy,stupid wiring that all our rigs come with.
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06-12-2021, 10:47 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Costa Mesa
Posts: 37
M.O.C. #24836
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Can't believe how much I'm learning on this forum.
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06-12-2021, 11:52 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Box Elder
Posts: 4,774
M.O.C. #12947
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If you install an accumulator tank on the hot water outlet side of the water heater, it will do nothing to relieve pressure in the water heater tank due to the check valve on the hot water outlet. The accumulator on the cold side will do what you are wanting.
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Bob & Becky
2012 3402RL
2012 Chevy 2500HD D/A CC 4WD
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06-16-2021, 04:50 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Mesa
Posts: 135
M.O.C. #24052
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rames14
We ordered the same as Ron, plus I ordered the hose kit. What have others used for under the pump feet for vibration isolation?
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I used a sheet of cork and a 1/8" thick silicone sheet. Super quiet compared to before. with adding the tank it was a upgrade well worth it.
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Rod & BJ
2019 3811MS , 2020 GMC 3500 Dually Denali Duramax, Anderson hitch.
Mesa, AZ
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06-16-2021, 05:20 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Mesa
Posts: 135
M.O.C. #24052
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rod Spohn
I used a sheet of cork and a 1/8" thick silicone sheet. Super quiet compared to before. with adding the tank it was a upgrade well worth it.
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Along the same line as this thread, is there a recommended water pump? I'm wanting to rig up a sure flow (or other brand) to pump water from a barrel of jug. Can one of these small pumps run long enough to empty a 35 gl barrel without burning up? I'm guessing it would take a little over 10 minutes to pump 35 gallons into the Monti.
I bought a pump that was way to big and had to be primed. to much effort. Any ideas or set up ideas are more than welcome.
with more water and 2 more batteries and 1 more solar I should be better set up for boondocking
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Rod & BJ
2019 3811MS , 2020 GMC 3500 Dually Denali Duramax, Anderson hitch.
Mesa, AZ
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06-16-2021, 08:07 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Carmichael - CA
Posts: 7,693
M.O.C. #4831
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The onboard water pump will suck water from a barrel or jug. Some use it to pump antifreeze when they winterize. But that is only a few gallons. I too wonder if the pump can hold up to continuous use for an extended period.
I use a 40 gal. water bladder and a 12V water pump from Harbor Freight. It works really well and stands up to continuous use.
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Carl (n Susan)
There is more to life than fuel mileage.
2012 Montana 3700RL Big Sky Package towed by a 2015 Ford F350 6.7L PSD 4WD CC LWB
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06-16-2021, 08:15 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Livermore
Posts: 5,183
M.O.C. #1920
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We also have a harbor freight pump. Still need a bladder.
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Ron and Terrie Ames plus Meg - MOC #1920/KF0NTA
2021Montana 3230CK Super Solar+ Legacy Package
2021 Ram 3500 Laramie Longhorn, BIM Charging
4x4, SRW, LB, Crew Cab, Pullrite 3900 Hitch
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06-16-2021, 08:51 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Carmichael - CA
Posts: 7,693
M.O.C. #4831
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rames14
We also have a harbor freight pump. Still need a bladder.
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Hey Ron the popular 45 gallon water bladder is sold by (ugh) Camping World at $112. But they are manufactured by New World MFG Inc. in Cloverdale, CA (Napa valley). Their web site claims they have a new (no idea when that was) eCommerce site for online ordering. Of course I can't find it. They might sell at a lower price than CW. Also of interest is they sometimes have "seconds" (the bladder had a leak which they fixed at the factory) that they use to sell at a considerably reduced price.
It can't hurt to contact them and see what they have today.
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Carl (n Susan)
There is more to life than fuel mileage.
2012 Montana 3700RL Big Sky Package towed by a 2015 Ford F350 6.7L PSD 4WD CC LWB
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06-16-2021, 09:17 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Livermore
Posts: 5,183
M.O.C. #1920
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Thanks, Carl.
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Ron and Terrie Ames plus Meg - MOC #1920/KF0NTA
2021Montana 3230CK Super Solar+ Legacy Package
2021 Ram 3500 Laramie Longhorn, BIM Charging
4x4, SRW, LB, Crew Cab, Pullrite 3900 Hitch
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06-17-2021, 09:43 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Mesa
Posts: 135
M.O.C. #24052
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Carl n Susan
Hey Ron the popular 45 gallon water bladder is sold by (ugh) Camping World at $112. But they are manufactured by New World MFG Inc. in Cloverdale, CA (Napa valley). Their web site claims they have a new (no idea when that was) eCommerce site for online ordering. Of course I can't find it. They might sell at a lower price than CW. Also of interest is they sometimes have "seconds" (the bladder had a leak which they fixed at the factory) that they use to sell at a considerably reduced price.
It can't hurt to contact them and see what they have today.
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I'd love to see these water bladders and see if it would work in my truck. Not knowing the shape I'm wondering how it would fit with the hitch in the bed. I'll email Becky and see if I can't find out how to get to there e-commerce site. Seems like it would be better than my 35 gallon barrel.
Thanks for thhe information on the pump and the bladder
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Rod & BJ
2019 3811MS , 2020 GMC 3500 Dually Denali Duramax, Anderson hitch.
Mesa, AZ
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06-17-2021, 10:10 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Carmichael - CA
Posts: 7,693
M.O.C. #4831
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The bladder is 35" x 50" x 6" when filled.
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Carl (n Susan)
There is more to life than fuel mileage.
2012 Montana 3700RL Big Sky Package towed by a 2015 Ford F350 6.7L PSD 4WD CC LWB
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06-17-2021, 10:31 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Mesa
Posts: 135
M.O.C. #24052
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New world responded. This is pretty much what was already share but here it is.
From Stephanie @ New world:We are mainly a manufacturer, we do sell our own products as a retail seller but we don't have our own website for a lot of our products. I'm pretty sure you are referring to our 45 gallon RV Fold-A-Tank, you can call and purchase directly from us or purchase online by visiting Camping World's
We have a couple websites for individual products but we don't have all of our products online, we are getting a new website set up so hopefully soon we can get a online storefront, with more of our products, linked to it. Please share with your forum that we can also do custom water bladders, we do have some limitations but we can manufacture different sizes and have a couple different types of material that are FDA approved for potable water. As a side note we also make custom air beds for RV's, boats, planes, etc. and can make these to different configurations. Keep in mind that for anything custom you would need to contact us directly.
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Second email from Newworld:If you want to order directly through us we cantake any orders over the phone. Our price is a little higher than CampingWorld, we charge $120 plus shipping (plus tax if in CA). I know a lot of peopleappreciate the convenience of online ordering, I figured their website would beeasiest way to order. You can share our number though, our toll free number is1-800-523-8853 or 707-894-5257. We have found the best advertising is word ofmouth
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Rod & BJ
2019 3811MS , 2020 GMC 3500 Dually Denali Duramax, Anderson hitch.
Mesa, AZ
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06-17-2021, 11:18 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Anderson
Posts: 2,787
M.O.C. #22835
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Carl n Susan
The onboard water pump will suck water from a barrel or jug. Some use it to pump antifreeze when they winterize. But that is only a few gallons. I too wonder if the pump can hold up to continuous use for an extended period. ....
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Yes, they do. They can pump for days on end. I used an old one to drain an above ground swimming pool. I had it connected to a 120 volt AC inverter to 12 volt DC output. I was more concerned about the inverter burning up using it that long, and it did get hot. The pump? stayed cool as a cucumber for the entire duration. I still have that pump.
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2019 Montana High Country 375FL
2014 Chevy Silverado Duramax, 6.6L Dually
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06-17-2021, 04:13 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Mesa
Posts: 135
M.O.C. #24052
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I don't want to beat this to death or sound like a sales person but Newworld sent me another place they sell through that might be of interest to everyone. Better price than they quoted me to by direct.
-we also sell through Arizona RV Parts Inc. here's a link to the bladder on their website https://arizonarvpartscenter.com/rv-45-gallon-fresh-water-folding-storage-tank-cw1605/ .
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Rod & BJ
2019 3811MS , 2020 GMC 3500 Dually Denali Duramax, Anderson hitch.
Mesa, AZ
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