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10-25-2020, 02:24 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Albany
Posts: 407
M.O.C. #11972
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Keystone and Lippert both advise against using the level up system to raise wheels off the ground.
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10-25-2020, 03:00 PM
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#42
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: SWFL
Posts: 964
M.O.C. #17801
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jimcol
I use a 12 ton bottle jack right on the spring seats between the U bolts. Do not place it on the axle tube .
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This/\, but really, level with the 6-pt jacks, then go manual and lower one side, then raise the other. I cannot discern any frame flex as the jacks on each side work together.
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10-25-2020, 05:05 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Grand Island
Posts: 39
M.O.C. #25534
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"Do yourself a favor and check out" https://safejacks.com/
Great tip. Thanks!
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10-25-2020, 05:39 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Hilliards
Posts: 237
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I agree with Dieselguys' solution also. I have a former spring plate from some older vehicle(not sure what it was) that was passed on to me by my father. It cradles under both spring U bolts at the same time, and sets atop of an 8 ton bottle jack, it works perfect! The wheel only needs to be lifted less than an inch off of the ground so this works perfectly. It is also very stable. I don't have a pic of it, but when I get the beast out of storage I will try to remember to get one.
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10-25-2020, 07:24 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Georgetown
Posts: 305
M.O.C. #18751
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I used to use a 12 ton bottle jack on the U-bolts. Didn’t need that size but it does have more lift height. Both of our Montys and the Mobile Suites have leveler systems so that is what I now use. But I still carry the bottle jack....
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10-25-2020, 08:32 PM
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#46
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Austin
Posts: 226
M.O.C. #18363
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ForBruce
Not counting the plastic type of jack you roll the camper on.
If the trailer is leveled and i am not moving what jack can i use to lift my trailer and change a tire. Don't want to use the leveling system which can cause FRAME TWIST.
also how many tons ?
tried a hydraulic pump jack (not a bottle type) rated 2 1/4 tons which equal 27,000 lift...well that was a joke
any ideas ??
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A 2T -4T Jack will be fine. Your not putting the entire weight on the jack.
Leveling system is not going to twist the frame any more than putting a different jack under it.
Use jacks stands.
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10-26-2020, 04:53 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 1,788
M.O.C. #14547
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Yesterday I pulled the calipers off ours for a set of new pads and used the 3 Ton trolley jack for one. I really had to lean on the handle in an awkward position. The other three got the tall 12 Ton bottle jack. One hand and not as many pumps as I had recalled from previous underside work. I also used a jackstand just in case - and yes, it went under the axle but with no weight on it since it was a safety backup.
Use whatever you want that's within the capacity to lift your trailer but this discussion and doing that little chore yesterday reaffirmed my decision to go with a 12 Ton.
$18 for a 4 Ton
$26 for an 8 Ton
$30 for a 12 Ton
https://harborfreight.com/automotive...tle-jacks.html
Then there are those coupons which make them even less
https://www.harborfreight.com/savings_coupons.html
Using the self leveling feature is probably OK in a safe, level place like your driveway but alongside the road, changing a flat may not be and possibly why Lippert issued a CYA
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2014 Montana High Country 343RL (Sold!)
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10-26-2020, 07:36 AM
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#48
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Established Member
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Carson City
Posts: 14
M.O.C. #26595
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I carry a 20ton bottle jack. It's heavy but, it will lift my truck also if needed to change a rear dual while still connected to my 3810ms.
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10-26-2020, 09:19 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: The Dalles
Posts: 94
M.O.C. #6613
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Right on. Love the hydraulics
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10-27-2020, 05:46 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: ladson,SC
Posts: 201
M.O.C. #26644
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That what i was telling you guys all along..while a smaller bottle jack might work..when you are laying down the increase TON capacity makes life easier.
FOOTNOTE---- had to level my trailer at home where the road slanted for water run off....my ELECTRIC leveler started to raise the tires off the ground
( the slant was too much) and then stopped and the ERROR beep went off and the system shut down...had to RE-PARK all six levelers to recalibrate.
So while some of you guys use your lifts to change tires , I think a distinction has to be made weather your are Hydraulic or Electric .
The Hydraulics are more powerful and allow you to completely lift while the electrics may not....
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10-27-2020, 05:49 PM
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#51
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: ladson,SC
Posts: 201
M.O.C. #26644
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff Myers
I agree with Dieselguys' solution also. I have a former spring plate from some older vehicle(not sure what it was) that was passed on to me by my father. It cradles under both spring U bolts at the same time, and sets atop of an 8 ton bottle jack, it works perfect! The wheel only needs to be lifted less than an inch off of the ground so this works perfectly. It is also very stable. I don't have a pic of it, but when I get the beast out of storage I will try to remember to get one.
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please post a pic of the spring plate.. i am going to build one and i want to see all my options....
does it look like this....and does anyone know the axle diameter of the montana High country 385br
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