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01-20-2024, 12:59 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Dec 2021
Location: Iowa City
Posts: 35
M.O.C. #30242
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battery box heater
todays prep for our upcoming trip.
i had a 1250w 2amp 110v blanket heater used on 55gallon drums.
i wrapped the battery box, lithium inside, and taped it up as best i could.
ran the power to the inverter so i could run it on the road.
heats blanket to 90 degrees. box top showin 78.
kinda ugly but it should work.
i have never posted a pix from the phone so fingers crossed...
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01-20-2024, 01:09 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: Wauchula
Posts: 85
M.O.C. #30834
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I have a 12v tank heater sandwiched between my Lithiums
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2016 Montana 3611 RL Legacy - 2000w Solar, Victron whole house power, 1200ah Chins LiFePO4, RV Armor roof, Verizon 5G Home Internet
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01-20-2024, 01:49 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Alton
Posts: 2,903
M.O.C. #24086
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I did something similar.
Since I added more batteries, Bus bars and rewired, I need to redo mine, again....
https://www.montanaowners.com/forums...90#post1255190
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Daryl and Marianne,
2019 3130re 20th Anniversary Edition
2016 F350 Lariat
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01-20-2024, 07:52 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Olmsted Falls
Posts: 247
M.O.C. #20364
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I got the Dragonfly 100AH batteries on the new 2024 with 400system and they are supposed to have internal heaters. So far with several weeks of 20s and 10s temps we haven't have any issues. I have temp sensors all over and with the furnace on overnight 18degs, set at 68 the underbelly and battery compartment only get to 37deg low. I don't think i need to add anything additional at this point.
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RMC(SW) USN Ret.; AT&T Ret.
2024 3231CK, IS, 400W Solar, Slide covers, Predator Gen,, 2016 Chevy High Country 3500 Diesel Dually with Timbren SES
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01-21-2024, 01:42 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2006
Location:
Posts: 1,735
M.O.C. #5751
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I don't know anything about Lithiums, but for 'normal' batteries, keep them plugged in, that's all you have to do.
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01-28-2024, 02:20 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Box Elder
Posts: 4,774
M.O.C. #12947
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That has to be a unique heater blanket to make 1250 watts and only drawing 2 amps. Usually, 1250 watts draws about 10 amps at 120 volts.
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Bob & Becky
2012 3402RL
2012 Chevy 2500HD D/A CC 4WD
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01-30-2024, 06:16 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Illinois
Posts: 49
M.O.C. #19500
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cat320
I don't know anything about Lithiums, but for 'normal' batteries, keep them plugged in, that's all you have to do.
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Cat320 Just a quick information response. LITHIUM batteries will be damaged when charged at below freezing temps. However they do have a Battery management system (BMS) built in to shut them down for Overtemp conditions and SOME also shut of charging when battery is at below freezing temps. There are also some that offer an internal heater build inside making below it possible to continue charging in freezing weather.
The lithium battery is still able to suppley power when below freezing but the charging needs to stop.
Hope this simple explanation sheds some light on this subject for you.
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2017 Montana HC 353RL - Sailun S637's, Progressive EMS-HW50C
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01-31-2024, 08:25 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2022
Location: Shingle Springs
Posts: 2,607
M.O.C. #30417
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If they have a BMS they wont charge below 32 degrees. 12 volt tank heaters work great. You may as well disconnect the battery box vent pipe as lithium's don't require venting.
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Tony & Donna & the best dog ever, Murphy.
2022 Montana HC, 295RL, 720 watts Solar, Onan 3600 LPG, 2K inverter, 200AH Lithium. 2020 GMC Denali 2500 6.6 Duramax, Demco 21K Auto Slide
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02-03-2024, 08:46 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2006
Location:
Posts: 1,735
M.O.C. #5751
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pathfinder75
Cat320 Just a quick information response. LITHIUM batteries will be damaged when charged at below freezing temps. However they do have a Battery management system (BMS) built in to shut them down for Overtemp conditions and SOME also shut of charging when battery is at below freezing temps. There are also some that offer an internal heater build inside making below it possible to continue charging in freezing weather.
The lithium battery is still able to suppley power when below freezing but the charging needs to stop.
Hope this simple explanation sheds some light on this subject for you.
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Thanks for that data, very informative. It also confirms my opinion that I will not get Lith's until the price comes way down and they are as easy to use as 'standard' batteries.
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