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07-04-2012, 01:42 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Coeur D Alene
Posts: 159
M.O.C. #9827
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SOB,SOB HELP...
Hi all,
My daughter and son in law are looking at a 1989 bounder with 23k miles on it good shape new tires, new hoes on engine , power jacks , ford 460 40 foot john Deere chaise:w/ steering stabilizer, 7k gas Onan gen, 2 ac , ice maker, washer/dryer,mic/convection oven. Asking $12,000 Is this in the ball park, any body know??
Thanks
Bear
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07-04-2012, 02:30 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Coeur D Alene
Posts: 159
M.O.C. #9827
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I thought it was high also but I was suprised to see the nada value, are they really going that cheap?? I have not found any for sale to compare ....
thanks
Bear
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07-04-2012, 04:59 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Wilsey
Posts: 18,799
M.O.C. #11455
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Most of them haven't lasted that long, number #1. The thing you have to consider is that you're buying a truck and a camper together. You wouldn't pay much for a truck that age even with low miles because of all the things that crap out with age (water pumps, gaskets, alternators etc.). You also wouldn't pay much for a camper that age for many of the same reasons. Somewhere that thing has sat for a most of it's life. I wouldn't buy it without spending the money to have an engine mechanic and a certified RV mechanic look at it. Then you really know what to expect.
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07-04-2012, 06:58 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Copperas Cove
Posts: 1,426
M.O.C. #12096
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Hmmmm bout 5 years ago I sold a 95 Bounder in perfect condition for $12k. The brakes are junk and they like to wonder all over the hwy. Mine was a F-53 chassis though.
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07-05-2012, 12:15 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Fayetteville
Posts: 4,200
M.O.C. #11401
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DQDickx2
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07-05-2012, 03:25 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Vermontville
Posts: 1,129
M.O.C. #9045
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Another thing to consider is the fact that it's a Ford 460 engine in that big of a rig. I had a 36' with the 460 in it and for most of the time traveling it was flat on the floor trying to keep it at 62 MPH. I would never purchase this type of unit with that combination again. And yes, the price is high for this period of time.
Dave
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07-05-2012, 08:10 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Murrieta
Posts: 5,816
M.O.C. #9257
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NEVER look at tires and if they look good think they are fine. Go by the AGE of the tires by referring to the DOT code. Tires will age faster from non-use than from being driven.
You are talking 23,000 miles over 23 years. That's an average of being driven about 1,000 miles a year (imagine a 500 mile roundtrip, then it SITS for the rest of the whole year). Even if the prior owner(s) just started the engine every week, that's no where near enough miles to drive and keep the tires, hoses, belts and any other non-metallic part from not turning into something that decays and rots prematurely.
Don't forget that not only do ALL fluids need to be replaced, there will probably need to be some cleanout, too because fluids that sit and do nothing is not good for an engine or whatever other device using these fluids (differential, brake lines, power steering, transmission, gas tank, battery, tanks, etc., etc., etc.) There's no telling how much sludge has creeped into corners from non-use.
The reason the price HAS to be that low is not only from lack of use but being able to find replacement equipment for a vehicle that old. Any rubber may have to be replaced just so that if the new owners are gonna drive it anywhere nothing falls apart. While the engine is undersized but that's not uncommon because for cost reasons and ownership reasons manufacturer's will put in these motors to get you there, but not at race driver speeds or with semi-truck hauling abilities.
Pay as low as you can, but then you have to ask yourself if it would have been cheaper over the long haul to replace things that will need replacing on top of the purchase price. This would have to be a labor of love. If your kids make plenty of money and are willing to spend the time (imagine the downtime of getting everything up to snuff or repaired if it breaks), then allow this to be a project and move on. I also admit I don't see many Bounders any more so consider this in trying to get information and parts.
It depends on what your kids are looking for and their living conditions that will suggest this gamble.
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07-05-2012, 11:30 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Kville
Posts: 2,865
M.O.C. #7871
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Pretty steep for 23 years old. It has lots of 'stuff' but it could be worn out or not work due to lack of use.
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07-06-2012, 04:50 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Coeur D Alene
Posts: 159
M.O.C. #9827
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Thanks guys for all your comments.As my Granddad always said "you can lead a horse to water but you can not make him Drink"
Picture this: 4 cats, 1 dog 4 boys 15, 14, 14, 9. and mom and dad in a 1989 bounder 40 foot living full time going cross country cause they want too, already sold every thing they have, house not rented yet( up to Mary and I to rent it). Oh well to be 25years younger!!
I can hear a phone call about Kansas , Dad we need Help...........
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07-06-2012, 06:30 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Bakersfield
Posts: 5,316
M.O.C. #15
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I think Kansas is very optimistic! Of course it depends on where they are starting.
Good luck. Dennis
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07-06-2012, 06:47 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Mayville
Posts: 629
M.O.C. #2486
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Bounder was always considered to be the poor mans motor home. If Wal-Mart was selling rv's the Bounder would be on the lot. I have a Canadian friend from Winnipeg Manitoba,Canada who buys older motor homes from the states comes down and repairs most little things that need to be repaired and takes the rig back to Canada and sells it for a good profit. He will tell you that a older Bounder is not his thing.
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