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Old 11-22-2018, 11:41 AM   #1
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Looking for a “new” TV.
I’m trying to get some feedback for an older used Diesel 1 ton. Obviously tow ratings have changed more with newer models to accommodate new rigs so while a new 1 ton I know would work I’m curious if anyone out there has an older model that tows a new 40’ trailer.

Looking between 2008-2013 but am open to suggestions about what to look into if it’s capable (Ford, Chevy, GMC, Ram). I know there were some problem years in this range for all of them so feedback on what to avoid would be appreciated as well.

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Crew or Mega Cab
Diesel

Prefer SRW and 6.5’ bed but definitely willing to DRW and 8’.

Also looking at Anderson Hitch.
 
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Old 11-22-2018, 11:55 AM   #2
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Had a 2011 dodge mega cab Larimie edition SRW 4X4 with a pullrite hitch and loved it. Had to give it up when we bought the new rig for a DRW. While the truck was rated for the weight, the pin weight was more than you could buy tires certified for. Don't ask me how they figured that, but both I and the dealer looked at it both on the door and on line and that's how it was.
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Old 11-22-2018, 01:11 PM   #3
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Old 11-22-2018, 01:20 PM   #4
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I have a 2012 F-350 dually and love it. Pulls the 40' with no problems. With a dually you have some cushion on payload.
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If Ford, I would go with 2012 or newer. 2011 was first year for the 6.7. My 2012 has been great.
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I was pulling my 19K plus unit with an '11 Chevy Dually without any issues and was in spec, but just barely.
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Old 11-25-2018, 01:26 PM   #7
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Does anyone think a dually from 00-10 would be too old to tow new 40’?
Can max out at 17k and hitch would be 3k

Also anyone’s opinions on needing the 8’ vs 6.5’?
Also using Anderson hitch vs standard 5th wheel or sliding hitch.

So if Ford it seems 2011 or newer but stick with 2012 for 6.7. What about the previous gen?
If Chevy/GMC?
If Ram?

Trying to stay below <2014 for $$$ reasons but still want reliability by not buying the known lemons. Could be poorly maintained but that’s a chance I’ll have to take ( if anyone has some recommendations to look for to make sure properly cared for since wouldn’t know if systems have been flushed or timing, plugs, pumps were replaced.
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Old 11-25-2018, 04:34 PM   #8
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IMHO, I would not have anything less that a (newer) dually to tow a heavy 40' fifth wheel. I can only speak for Chevy/GMC. What ever you do, do NOT get a 2011 truck. First year of new upgrade with many issues. Mostly DEF issues. I would recommend if going Chevy/gmc, a 2013 and up. My 2014 GMC dually has had a few DEF issues that were straightened out by the dealer and has been fine ever since. FYI, GM has extended the warranty's on all 2011-2014 (2015+?) Chevy/GMC Diesel trucks on the entire DEF/exhaust system for 10 years/120k miles
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Stay away from Ford 6.0 Power Strokes
I know some claim they can “bulletproofed” but why chance it.
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Old 12-26-2018, 09:48 PM   #10
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I tow my 381TH with a 2003 F350 4 door 4WD, DRW. The 6.0 has power to spare, ive towed all across the western rockies and all across America. Never have had any problems except normal maintenance. I love older trucks fir the economics, i just cant justify the cost of new. My truck is comfortable and 100% paid for, many years ago.
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I would not rule out a bulletproofed 6.0.
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They all have had their issues. But, a rule of thumb is when you are buying an older diesel be prepared to spend thousands to put new injectors in it. Find one you are comfortable in.



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Old 12-27-2018, 05:02 AM   #15
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A set of injectors in my 03 Chevy 2500 at 170k miles was $4800 I think. It got to a point that every time we took a trip some $800 item went wrong. DW put her foot down and said NO MORE! Traded it in at 265k for a barely used 2014 1 ton.
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Old 12-27-2018, 06:28 AM   #16
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Does anyone think a dually from 00-10 would be too old to tow new 40’?
Can max out at 17k and hitch would be 3k

Also anyone’s opinions on needing the 8’ vs 6.5’?
Also using Anderson hitch vs standard 5th wheel or sliding hitch.

So if Ford it seems 2011 or newer but stick with 2012 for 6.7. What about the previous gen?
If Chevy/GMC?
If Ram?

Trying to stay below <2014 for $$$ reasons but still want reliability by not buying the known lemons. Could be poorly maintained but that’s a chance I’ll have to take ( if anyone has some recommendations to look for to make sure properly cared for since wouldn’t know if systems have been flushed or timing, plugs, pumps were replaced.



I am always leery when buying a used vehicle because you cant be sure how it was treated. In your case you want to use it to tow your house with most of your worldly goods around. A older truck may be fine to tow but the newer trucks are so much better for what you want to do. When I got my truck I had to go new because I didn't want it to brake down on the side of the road. Now sure new trucks can and do brake down but what are the odds? I would however get the newest truck you can afford. Depending on the tow package you get weather diesel or gas or 4x4 or not you may be able to get by with a SRW. A gas truck non 4x4 regular cab has a higher payload than a diesel which is heavier motor. A 4x4 is also heavier which also eats into the payload capacity. The bigger the cab 2 door or 4 door makes a difference. You defiantly need a 1 ton truck for this 5er. Now they make a 10,000 and a 11,500 GVWR trucks in the 1 ton SRW. Make sure you get the 11,500 GVWR truck so you can still go with a SRW. Lots of guys seem to think you need a DRW but they are a pain to own. They take up the entire lane when driving so it's like pulling your 5er all the time to stay in your lane. They don't fit in most parking spots and are as long as a bus. They have 6 tires and tires aren't cheap. You need to buy them in a set when they wear out. You can go by the weight sticker on the side of your 5er for weights. Use the max number and you will be fine for towing capacities. You always use the max number to be within manufactures specifications both on the 5er and truck. I own a 15 Ford F250 6.7 4x4 and love my truck so I am bias for Ford LOL. I also pull a 34' 5th wheel.I have the short bed with a B&W hitch non slider and I don't have any cab clearance issues.
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Looking for a “new” TV.
I’m trying to get some feedback for an older used Diesel 1 ton. Obviously tow ratings have changed more with newer models to accommodate new rigs so while a new 1 ton I know would work I’m curious if anyone out there has an older model that tows a new 40’ trailer.

Looking between 2008-2013 but am open to suggestions about what to look into if it’s capable (Ford, Chevy, GMC, Ram). I know there were some problem years in this range for all of them so feedback on what to avoid would be appreciated as well.

Must haves:
4x4
Crew or Mega Cab
Diesel

Prefer SRW and 6.5’ bed but definitely willing to DRW and 8’.

Also looking at Anderson Hitch.
There are good used trucks out there. I just traded in an 2016 F350 Diesel SRW Platinum long bed for a new 2018 F350 SRW Long Bed Diesel. There was absolutely nothing wrong with it other than I just wanted the new body style.
It only had around 30k miles on it, performed all maintenance as required to include filters, oil ,air, fuel .etc... it pulled my 40ft Alpine as if it wasn't even hooked up. One feature that I really liked was the exhaust brake when descending long steep grades.
Good trucks are out there, you just need to look .
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Old 12-27-2018, 12:01 PM   #18
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Buy the newest tuck you can afford and run, don't walk, run as fast as you can from a Ford 6.0.

I would rather buy used from an individual than from a dealer. Many dealers buy at auction and have no clue about the history of the truck. Preferably an older mature individual. Stay away from the trucks owned by kids who modify them with tuners/exhaust and delete everything on them for performance. They do this for a reason...

There are lots of excellent used one owner diesel trucks out there if you take your time and especially if you are willing to travel a bit.
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