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Old 09-11-2018, 08:31 AM   #1
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TRASH

Trash has become a huge issue in our country and around the world. We are here is one of the most beautiful places in the U.S. - Florida Keys - but, the trash in the waters is heart wrenching! We have been out into the Atlantic and the Bays snorkeling and diving and the amount of trash in the waters is deeply concerning. We know there are many campaigns to rid the waters of the plastics, aluminum, etc... but, we feel it would be much better if we all just did our part to help by putting the trash where it belongs.



I feel confident that no one on this forum would be guilty of depositing trash where it does not belong and I feel that most everyone here goes a step further and picks up trash you find even if it is not your own. We do and will continue to do so.



We just wanted to remind folks of what we are seeing and hope you will help us spread the word to others. Some things we do that we hope helps in some small way are:
  • to use reusable grocery bags - cloth;
  • avoid buying plastic if at all possible;
  • deposit any/all plastic in recyclable receptacles;
  • use paper products to clean up after the fur babies;
  • pick up and properly dispose of trash of any kind where ever we; happen to be; and
  • spread the word about what we are seeing as we travel our great country.
We believe that if everyone would help out we could significantly reduce the amount of plastic and trash in our rivers, lakes, and oceans.



All we ask is that you pass the word.


https://www.nationalgeographic.com/e...ge-patch-news/
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Old 09-11-2018, 08:55 AM   #2
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Along with that, I'm also concerned that more and more places are dropping recycling because there's no longer a profit in it. I didn't think the real point was to make a profit so much as to save a future for our kids
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Along with that, I'm also concerned that more and more places are dropping recycling because there's no longer a profit in it. I didn't think the real point was to make a profit so much as to save a future for our kids
I agree with you. Unfortunately, our world revolves around money. Very sad.
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Not to diminish the intent of your post, but I believe the Keys still have a lot of debris to clean up from Irma, especially stuff that blew into canals.

Just yesterday while I was cutting my grass, I noticed how much plastic was accumulating. Small stuff I assume fell out of trash bags, and even pieces of trimmer string and I guess stuff that blew from neighbors' yards. I live on a freshwater canal that does have an outlet to the Intra-coastal and the Gulf of Mexico, so I imagine plastic can ultimately get to the Gulf. My little yard is just one of hundreds of thousands contributing to the plastics mess. Yes, we are all to blame and only we can fix it at the source.
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Not to diminish the intent of your post, but I believe the Keys still have a lot of debris to clean up from Irma, especially stuff that blew into canals.

Just yesterday while I was cutting my grass, I noticed how much plastic was accumulating. Small stuff I assume fell out of trash bags, and even pieces of trimmer string and I guess stuff that blew from neighbors' yards. I live on a freshwater canal that does have an outlet to the Intra-coastal and the Gulf of Mexico, so I imagine plastic can ultimately get to the Gulf. My little yard is just one of hundreds of thousands contributing to the plastics mess. Yes, we are all to blame and only we can fix it at the source.
I used to live on a salt canal off Intercoastal near Galveston
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If everyone does their part that is a good start. The key is create less trash that will wind up in a landfill.
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[QUOTE=PNW Fireguy;1116994]If everyone does their part that is a good start. The key is create less trash that will wind up in a landfill.[/

As I recall it was tree huggers that pushed for a change from biodegradable paper bags to plastic bags. Similar to pushing Ethanol which ended up with higher use of hydrocarbons and chemicals as farmers till vast swaths of land!

As is typical many things are not well thought out and are simply feel good measures designed to look like we are taking some sort of action

The REAL solution is to teach kids to be responsible and punish those who are not. Punishing the rest of us just makes life more difficult and expensive!!

Itís called a trash can. Teach your unruly brats to use it!! And while your at it learn yourself!!
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I don't know if you are are just having a bad day, off your meds or just an angry individual? I don't have unruly brats and I assure you that I know how to use a trash can...Me a tree hugger I would be more likley to fell a tree on ya.
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We live in the Blueridge Mountains of Va. We are hunters. There was a guy who worked in the shop who said people could carry a full beer can up the mountain but couldn’t carry an empty one down the mountain. I think he was on to something. You can go up the most remote mountain here and find trash someone has left. WHY!
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We live in the Blueridge Mountains of Va. We are hunters. There was a guy who worked in the shop who said people could carry a full beer can up the mountain but couldnít carry an empty one down the mountain. I think he was on to something. You can go up the most remote mountain here and find trash someone has left. WHY!
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I come from a family of hunters, When I was 10 years old my dad and I were sitting way up on a mountain deer hunting. After a few hours I pulled out a candy bar and ate it. When I finished I buried the wrapper under a little dirt and a rock. When I was done my dad said, do you think this place is beautiful? I said yes, he said would you like to see garbage all around here? I said no, he said then pick up the candy wrapper! If you pack it in you pack it out. That was all it took. I've lived by that philosophy the rest of my life. Parents don't care like they used to!
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People are going to leave trash. That's why the old fashioned paper bags work. They are renewable, recyclable, biodegradable, make great charcoal and fire pit kindling.
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This post sounds way to political for this forum.
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This post sounds way to political for this forum.
You are correct, so let's get it back on "sitting around the campfire". Anytime we are in a slot at any campground, I ALWAYS walk around and pick up even the smallest pieces of debris (cig butts, small wrappers, things that are almost too small to even notice). I make any campground cleaner when we leave than when we arrived. As to the OP, by going back to glass "for deposit" containers for most everything, we could help reduce the plastic fouling up our world. Most stuff could be sold in cardboard & paper containers then transferred to permanent glass when arrive at home. I say "most" but with all the space age materials to retard spoilage it may never be viable for sure. Plastic can be reduced by rethinking how stuff is packaged. Go back to all returnable deposit bottles. Even liquor and wine, milk and juice. Everything. Force people to want to return them. And yes, it will cost more to handle.
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Every little this helps. Wish they would ban plastic straws. See them laying around every campground.
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We are our own worst enemies. The state has started recycling in the campground we host at and we have a receptacle on the way to the bathhouse. Many are very good about participating, but others you see make many trips a day, and we have to clean cans and half-melted bottles out of the fire pit.
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in some places plastic straws are baned. as are styrofoam cups.
but why do we as a country not burn most of out household garbage?

1: reduces the total fill for the dumps.
2: the burners can turn salt water to steam to turn turbines. almost free eletricy here.
3: water condences to "drinkable" water.
4: volume ? some metals might be had. ( help cover the cost of the burner rebuild).
5: other?
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This sounds like a totally political topic

I see the same trash and get just as mad as others here about the total disrespect for others and decorum in general. I always have a pair of leather gloves and always find myself cleaning up beer cans, half melted plastic and cigarette butts from fire pits and the campground in general.

I totally respect anybody that works (or is retired from a life of work) regardless of their occupation. I treat the folks cleaning up the State RV park same as a CEO. I tell them thanks for their efforts every chance I get.

On the other hand I have zero respect for the parents who don’t teach their kids how to be at least a little respectful and tidy!!!

I completely disagree with banning straws or cups!! Instead we should teach our kids to show a little respect and put trash in a trash can!! Whip their little butts if they don’t!! It is our permissive society that is to blame for the trash we see everywhere not the items that make up that trash!!!!!!!
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I agree with mtlakejim 100%. People need to start taking responsibility for what they do and what they teach their children.
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Come to California. There is trash everywhere. People here talk a good game but thats all it is talk. The dump is so expensive that i see all kinds of furniture and appliances along side the road besides the regular trash. People here just scream about straws but they are the same people that trash the state. We ban everything here. Straws Styrofoam plastic bags you name it.They charge you for paper sacks that you used to get for free. This state is so screwed up. Nothing golden about it except you have to have lots of it to live here.
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