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08-25-2006, 03:34 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Turlock
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M.O.C. #6034
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KING PIN weight F250
I have been searching for the rated KING PIN WEIGHT on my F250 CC SWD PSD. I found a great FORD TOWING GUIDE PDF, but I cannot find any published number.
Thanks in advance everyone
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08-25-2006, 04:19 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Ft. Smith
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M.O.C. #116
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Look for load capacity, it may be on the door post.
Skip
Skip and Mary
Black '04.5 Dodge 3500, CTD, 2x4, 48RE, LB, DRW, 3.73, LineX, AFE air filter, Donaldson muffler
'05 3500RL, TrailAir Pinbox
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08-25-2006, 04:41 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2005
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M.O.C. #4890
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Look on the inside of your driver's door to find your GVWR. Load up your truck with your hitch and what you will have with you on the road and go down and get your truck weighed.
Subtract this weight from your GVWR and you will have the amount of payload left for your pin weight. Many people run overloaded with no problems. It is a personal choice.
The reason you must weigh your own truck is because every option and occupent affects the payload of your pickup. Take care. Don
Don & Donna
Vancouver Island
2005 Ford F350 V10 Lariat CC 4x4 LB SRW 11200 GVWR
2006 Montana 2955RL
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08-25-2006, 04:46 AM
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Montana Master
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Maybe this link will help you. It from Trailer Life and lists vehicle tow capacities by year model. The file format is Adobe PDF.
http://www.trailerlife.com/output.cfm?id=42175
Charlie
2001 F-250 Lariat SC 4x2 LB 7.3L PSD
BD Power ECM 80 HP Performance Chip
BD Power X-Monitor LED Digital Gauges
Firestone Ride-Rite Air Bags
2005 3295RK
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08-25-2006, 09:02 AM
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Montana Master
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M.O.C. #5751
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You won't find a "king pin" weight, what you will find is the max cargo capacity for your truck. Check the sticker on the left rear door or rear pillar of the drivers side of your truck. The sticker, entitled "Tire and Loading Information," will have a section that says, "The combined weight of cargo and occupants should never exceed ____ pounds." That's all you can carry and stay within GVWR...king pin weight, passengers, cargo, fuel, tools, weight of the hitch, etc.
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08-26-2006, 04:04 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jul 2006
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M.O.C. #6034
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Here is the DATA on the 5er & Truck...Drove right to the scales from the dealer...
STEER AXEL 4040 lbs
DRIVE AXEL 5360 lbs
TRAILER AXEL 8600 lbs
TOTAL = 18000
TRUCK ONLY = 7440 LBS
I know the F250 is rated for the following.
MAX COMBINED 20,000
TRUCK MAX GROSS 8800
Can someone coment on the above ? Still in the learning curve.
Thanks
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08-26-2006, 05:01 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Haldimand County
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M.O.C. #122
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I'm not sure if this applies everywhere, but in Ontario at least, you can ask the dealer for a document called the N.V.I.S. (New Vehicle Information Sheet). This document gives the usual weight information plus the actual shipping weight of that particular vehicle. For one F350 SRW CC that we looked at, the shipping weight was shown as 6950 lbs, with GVWR of 11,400 lbs, this leaves you with an actual payload for that truck as equipped at the factory of 4450 lbs.
Knowing the actual shipping weight along with the GVWR is very helpful in comparing trucks.
The numbers you quote seem pretty typical for a 250/2500 series truck pulling a Montana. You are about 600lbs over the GVWR. You should also check the axle ratings to see how they are.
How you feel about this is up to you; but for us, the answer is in our sig. line.
OntMont (John and Donna)
2005 Montana 3670RL
2001 Silverado 2500HD Duramax (& 53 Ford F-10)
(2007 Silverado "Classic" 3500 DRW D/A on order)
2001 Border Collie to ride herd on us.
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08-26-2006, 06:30 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Oceanside
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That must not be one of the newer Fords? Those sound like pre-2005 numbers. On our 2005 the GCWR is 23,000, tow rating is 15,400, GVWR is 10,000.
John, congratulations on the new truck on order!
See another Montana or Mountaineer on the road? Flash lights twice, it might be one of us!
Steve Reigle (pronounced Regal)
Fulltiming since 3/21/03
'03 3295RK
'05 Ford F250 SD Lariat CC SB 6.0L PSD/TS FX4 4x4
Our RV Travels (now Firefox-compatible)
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08-26-2006, 08:49 AM
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Montana Master
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M.O.C. #5751
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The shipping weight minus GVWR will not equal the cargo capacity of the truck. During my lengthy research, I computed the cargo capacity using the shiping weight that comes on the title, and by using and the cargo capacity as noted on the sticker on the left rear door (or pillar). NONE were the same, and no dealer could explain why. The cargo capacity was always less when using the sticker weight rather than the ship weight. Since the sticker says very clearly "The combined weight of cargo and occupants should never exceed___pounds," I tend to think it is more accurate.
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08-26-2006, 12:50 PM
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Montana Master
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M.O.C. #4890
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by RLVoumard
Here is the DATA on the 5er & Truck...Drove right to the scales from the dealer...
STEER AXEL 4040 lbs
DRIVE AXEL 5360 lbs
TRAILER AXEL 8600 lbs
TOTAL = 18000
TRUCK ONLY = 7440 LBS
I know the F250 is rated for the following.
MAX COMBINED 20,000
TRUCK MAX GROSS 8800
Can someone coment on the above ? Still in the learning curve.
Thanks
If your total is 18000 pounds and your trailer axles are supporting
8600 pounds then your truck is supporting the balance which is 9400.
This only puts your truck 600 pounds over your 8800 GVWR. This is no real big deal and should still be in the carrying capacity of your rear axle and your truck tires.
The newer Fords have a higher GVWR but they also weigh much more than the older Fords. My model with a V10 is 7800 pounds with me and a full tank. If it was a diesel it would be 8300 pounds. It would have an 11400 GVWR so a payload of 3100 pounds.
My first new F250 Ford, a 1975 model weighed 5000 pounds.
It had an 8100 GVWR or a payload of 3100 pounds.
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Don & Donna
Vancouver Island
2005 Ford F350 V10 Lariat CC 4x4 LB SRW 11200 GVWR
2006 Montana 2955RL
click on the little pic to see a big pic
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08-27-2006, 10:43 AM
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Montana Master
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M.O.C. #6022
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My experience was the same as Cat's when it came to shipping weight and actual payload capacity--the shipping weight numbers on the invoices accompanying Ford pickups shipped to dealers here in the Northern Virginia area were always several hundred pounds less than what I calculated as the actual weights of the trucks (which I calculated as GVWR minus the max cargo capacity number on the tire sticker on the door frame). Nor was I ever able to get anyone at any Ford dealership who could explain the difference. Fortunately for me, Virginia uses the lower, shipping weight numbers in determining personal property taxes, so I'm happy Ford understates the weight in their shipping docs. But it does make it harder to know what the actual weight, and the actual payload, of your vehicle is going to be when you order it.
David and Jo-Anna Kikel
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09-05-2006, 04:51 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Oceanside
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I have seen that same phenomena on cars, as well as trucks, on Ford, GM, and Chrysler (Dodge) that I have owned. I have no idea how they figure shipping weight. If anyone knows, please enlighten us.
See another Montana or Mountaineer on the road? Flash lights twice, it might be one of us!
Steve Reigle (pronounced Regal)
Fulltiming since 3/21/03
'07 3400RL
'05 Ford F250 SD Lariat CC SB 6.0L PSD/TS FX4 4x4
Our RV Travels (now Firefox-compatible)
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