Journey with Confidence RV GPS App RV Trip Planner RV LIFE Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Take a Speed Test Free 7 Day Trial ×
 

Go Back   Montana Owners Club - Keystone Montana 5th Wheel Forum > GENERAL DISCUSSIONS > Sitting around the Campfire
Click Here to Login

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 07-11-2012, 12:38 PM   #1
Ozz
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: K.C.
Posts: 11,731
M.O.C. #5980
Saved my customer $15,000 today

Probably more...
A church I have been taking care of for 30 years or so called me about one of the 20 ton A/C units. The Pastor they had for 2 years is gone suddenly for some reason, he used another HVAC guy. The secretary said this unit has been down all summer. No voltage to the thermostat, I fixed the wiring someone messed up, got power to the thermostat (it is very complex and confusing) then found the whole system completely out of refrigerant. I found the leak: electrical feed-through terminals... not good. Called York...no parts available,
So, I took it all apart and fixed it. Pulled out all the tricks in my musty trick-bag. Pulled a vacuum on it today, as tight as new shoes. I will charge it tomorrow, worked on it all day today.
Pictures and slide show for you gear-heads out there.
Only problem is that I screwed myself out of a $5,000 profit on the job. Most repair guys would have sold them a new system.
Hey.. it's a church...

Slide-show:
https://picasaweb.google.com/Jimsue13/20120711PHCCCompressor?authuser=0&feat=directlink

Leaking under all this stuff....
 
Ozz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2012, 01:14 PM   #2
brenkco
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Lincoln
Posts: 856
M.O.C. #8154
Ozz,
The way I see it, doing good for the church should get an extra punch on your ticket to Heaven!
Can't hurt!!!

Ken
brenkco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2012, 02:21 PM   #3
HOOK
Montana Master
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Fayetteville
Posts: 4,200
M.O.C. #11401
Good goin Ozz!
HOOK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2012, 02:38 PM   #4
mlh
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 7,528
M.O.C. #2283
Only problem is that I screwed myself out of a $5,000 profit on the job. Most repair guys would have sold them a new system
No you didn't Ozz. They are still customers. I always try to get my customers by as cheep as possible, and through the recession we never had a down year. Of course we had a great salesman helping us out, President Obama.
Lynwood
__________________
www.harrellsprec.com
Lynwood Harrell
323 RL HC 2008 F250
mlh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2012, 03:16 PM   #5
DQDick
Site Team
 
DQDick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Wilsey
Posts: 18,799
M.O.C. #11455
You da man!
__________________
Dick, Joyce, Diego, Picatso and Gustav
2017 3720 RL, and 2013 HC 343RL
Pullrite Hitch, IS, Disk Brakes, 3rd AC, Winegard Traveler, Bathroom door mod, Dometic 320, couch for desk swap, replaced chairs, sun screens, added awnings, etc.
DQDick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2012, 03:29 PM   #6
seahunter
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 1,284
M.O.C. #11675
Way to go - they got an honest man for the job - and one who knew what he was doing!

seahunter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2012, 03:50 PM   #7
Bill-N-Donna
Montana Master
 
Bill-N-Donna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: South Shore
Posts: 6,009
M.O.C. #7110

Oz, you’re a good man. You certainly did the right thing. I firmly believe when you do something good for other people especially in a situation like you did, that it will come back to you many times over. Sure do wish you were in our area!

__________________
2011 GMC 4X4 dually CC, 6.6 Duramax with Allison Transmission. Formally 2001 Montana,2007 3400RL Montana, presently 2018 3401RS Alpine.
Bill-N-Donna is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2012, 04:05 PM   #8
Ozz
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: K.C.
Posts: 11,731
M.O.C. #5980
I am not a big believer in that stuff about good things coming back to you, Karma and all, I just want to do a fair job for my customers.
Ozz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2012, 04:31 PM   #9
Bill-N-Donna
Montana Master
 
Bill-N-Donna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: South Shore
Posts: 6,009
M.O.C. #7110
Quote:
quote:Originally posted by Ozz

I am not a big believer in that stuff about good things coming back to you, Karma and all, I just want to do a fair job for my customers.

I’ve got to be careful here not to engage in a religious discussion. What I’m saying can be read in Luke 6:38

Bill-N-Donna is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2012, 04:37 PM   #10
Ozz
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: K.C.
Posts: 11,731
M.O.C. #5980
Was old Luke a wise fella?
Ozz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2012, 04:41 PM   #11
Bill-N-Donna
Montana Master
 
Bill-N-Donna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: South Shore
Posts: 6,009
M.O.C. #7110
Quote:
quote:Originally posted by Ozz

Was old Luke a wise fella?

I would say he had some wisdom about him, he was a physician.

__________________
2011 GMC 4X4 dually CC, 6.6 Duramax with Allison Transmission. Formally 2001 Montana,2007 3400RL Montana, presently 2018 3401RS Alpine.
Bill-N-Donna is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2012, 11:41 PM   #12
bob n pam
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: sioux falls
Posts: 1,835
M.O.C. #2121
Way to go Ozz! Kudos!!
bob n pam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2012, 06:04 AM   #13
ole dude
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location:
Posts: 992
M.O.C. #7128
Sure looks to me like the compressor is not a York but a Copeland, maybe thats why York had no parts. Anywho, nice job.
ole dude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2012, 06:58 AM   #14
CamillaMichael
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Land O Lakes
Posts: 2,783
M.O.C. #10246
Quote:
quote:Originally posted by Bill-N-Donna


Oz, you’re a good man. You certainly did the right thing. I firmly believe when you do something good for other people especially in a situation like you did, that it will come back to you many times over. Sure do wish you were in our area!

Agree!
CamillaMichael is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2012, 07:43 AM   #15
Ozz
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: K.C.
Posts: 11,731
M.O.C. #5980
Quote:
quote:Originally posted by ole dude

Sure looks to me like the compressor is not a York but a Copeland, maybe thats why York had no parts. Anywho, nice job.
York had it in the unit, had a York part number on the tag, they should carry parts for it... or tell you where to get them.

What they are doing now is staging hermetic compressors in the same size units. Could be any brand, depended on which compressor salesman took the buyer out on the town... Much like any other industry.
Ozz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2012, 12:31 PM   #16
ole dude
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location:
Posts: 992
M.O.C. #7128
Yepper, they started a long time ago putting in permanent air filters and throw away compressors. It's a shame when the manufacturer no longer supports their equipment especially when supplied by another vendor. It seems the whole industry is moving to screws and scrolls. Figured it was in a York unit. York used a good many Copeland compressors, especially in their unitary equipment.
ole dude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2012, 10:15 AM   #17
Ozz
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: K.C.
Posts: 11,731
M.O.C. #5980
Well, evidently it is better to take than give...or pay.
NOT my fault refrigerant is so expensive...NOT my fault an old 20 ton A/C unit takes a bunch of refrigerant.
The church thinks the bill is too much...so, they will not pay it.
THEY WILL continue to enjoy the nice cool sanctuary, they enjoyed the A/C for the Funeral and for church services on Sundays.
Somewhere in the sermons they must give, it might say something about not paying the bills. I would be happy for them to pay what they THINK might be an acceptable bill, and argue about the rest of it. but nope. No money at all for the poor old retired service guy.
Just wrote out a $250.00 check to an attorney to send them a demand letter and start the process for court.
So much for trying to help a customer.
They did say the A/C unit is operating really good......




Quote:
quote:Originally posted by Ozz

Probably more...
A church I have been taking care of for 30 years or so called me about one of the 20 ton A/C units. The Pastor they had for 2 years is gone suddenly for some reason, he used another HVAC guy. The secretary said this unit has been down all summer. No voltage to the thermostat, I fixed the wiring someone messed up, got power to the thermostat (it is very complex and confusing) then found the whole system completely out of refrigerant. I found the leak: electrical feed-through terminals... not good. Called York...no parts available,
So, I took it all apart and fixed it. Pulled out all the tricks in my musty trick-bag. Pulled a vacuum on it today, as tight as new shoes. I will charge it tomorrow, worked on it all day today.
Pictures and slide show for you gear-heads out there.
Only problem is that I screwed myself out of a $5,000 profit on the job. Most repair guys would have sold them a new system.
Hey.. it's a church...

Slide-show:
https://picasaweb.google.com/Jimsue13/20120711PHCCCompressor?authuser=0&feat=directlink

Leaking under all this stuff....

Ozz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2012, 11:18 AM   #18
NCFischers
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: New Bern
Posts: 4,369
M.O.C. #8728
Send a message via Yahoo to NCFischers
Sometimes it amazes me that some of the most unlikely people can act that way.
NCFischers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2012, 11:56 AM   #19
seahunter
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 1,284
M.O.C. #11675
Wow Ozz, sorry to hear that. What a slap in the face! All the cliches about you doing the right thing just don't help the sting of them stiffing you for the bill - just isn't right. Good luck in court - may you win righteously and also get those legal fees reimbursed!!

seahunter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2012, 12:07 PM   #20
NCFischers
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: New Bern
Posts: 4,369
M.O.C. #8728
Send a message via Yahoo to NCFischers
Church or not, they deserve to wind up in court.
NCFischers is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Fan saved the evening! Artemus Gordon Sitting around the Campfire 5 07-23-2014 04:20 PM
Saved a little feller today Allen in MT Sitting around the Campfire 10 11-17-2013 06:41 AM
Saved $1300.00 DQDick Montana Problems, Problem Solving & Technical Help 11 04-23-2012 02:28 AM
Saved by 4WD again ols1932 Tow Vehicles & Towing 24 05-24-2010 05:11 PM
Saved by the breaker.......... Rondo General Discussions about our Montanas 5 10-06-2009 02:39 AM

» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by Montana RV, Keystone RV Company or any of its affiliates. This is an independent, unofficial site.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:00 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.