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07-21-2022, 10:22 AM
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Montana Fan
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Dead outlets
We just returned from a boondocking trip. A couple weeks in we lost power to the outlets inn the bathroom and ether side of the bed.. (3811 MS) I figured it was a GFI issue but couldn’t find one. Only one found was in the kitchen area and it was fine. About a week later other outlets in the bedroom stopped working. The rest of the trailer works fine. I’m still not finding another GFI. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
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07-21-2022, 11:25 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Alton
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Under the bed (bottom plywood removed), you will find a junction.
There may be another one further upstream probably behind the basement wall.
You will need a multimeter to trace it back.
A wire toner would work best for tracing the wiring back to the circuit breaker panel.
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07-21-2022, 08:01 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Overland Park
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There is another GFI, it is your outdoor electrical outlet on the door side. You might get lucky and find that it has tripped. Our 3810MS also has a GFI on the kitchen island.
Hope this helps!
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07-22-2022, 05:34 AM
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Montana Master
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Location: Jacksonville
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If you are finding more outlets out, it may actually be that one leg of the 50 amp service was lost. There's really no reason for bedroom outlets to be on a GFCI protected circuit.
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07-24-2022, 05:05 PM
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Montana Fan
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I’m not much of an electrician , how would I check if one leg of the 50 is not working?
I was hoping there is a second GFI I just wasn’t finding. It seems funny that there is only one GFI
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2019 3811MS , 2020 GMC 3500 Dually Denali Duramax, Anderson hitch.
Mesa, AZ
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07-24-2022, 06:15 PM
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Montana Master
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There should be a main breaker in your panel probably in the middle. Check the left side and right side breakers to see if they have 120 volts. Also, check main breaker on both legs.
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07-24-2022, 06:46 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: McKinney
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rod Spohn
I’m not much of an electrician , how would I check if one leg of the 50 is not working?
I was hoping there is a second GFI I just wasn’t finding. It seems funny that there is only one GFI
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Voltmeter is the only way to check. But only if you are comfortable troubleshooting live 120 vac.
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07-24-2022, 07:14 PM
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Site Team
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RMcNeal
If you are finding more outlets out, it may actually be that one leg of the 50 amp service was lost. There's really no reason for bedroom outlets to be on a GFCI protected circuit.
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My bathroom GFCI also feeds the basement outlet, exterior outlet, AND the bedroom outlet on the opposite side of the wall from the master GFCI.
There should be two GFCIs: one for the bathroom and one for the kitchen.
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07-27-2022, 01:16 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Qualicum Beach
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rod Spohn
We just returned from a boondocking trip. A couple weeks in we lost power to the outlets inn the bathroom and ether side of the bed.. (3811 MS) I figured it was a GFI issue but couldn’t find one. Only one found was in the kitchen area and it was fine. About a week later other outlets in the bedroom stopped working. The rest of the trailer works fine. I’m still not finding another GFI. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
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I have the same model. The GFI in the kitchen controls all those plugs. Make sure you push the button to turn off the GFI then push the reset. If that doesn't fix it then some wire(s) are off downstream. Start at the GFI and make sure the downstream wires are well connected then using a signal tracer follow them and look for junctions. Good luck.
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07-28-2022, 04:56 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Jacksonville
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Rod, did you ever get this figured out?
I am curious what it ended up being. Also, if you don't have or don't use a multimeter, you can get a tester like this one as an easy and safe means of determining if something how ac power.
https://www.amazon.com/Non-Contact-D...ps%2C92&sr=8-5
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2019 Montana Legacy 3791RD 20th Anniversary Edition
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07-28-2022, 08:33 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Liberty Hill
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I have 2 GFI's, bathroom and the kitchen. For us, it has always been the bathroom GFI that gets bumped.
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07-30-2022, 07:20 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Mesa
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M.O.C. #24052
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RMcNeal
Rod, did you ever get this figured out?
I am curious what it ended up being. Also, if you don't have or don't use a multimeter, you can get a tester like this one as an easy and safe means of determining if something how ac power.
https://www.amazon.com/Non-Contact-D...ps%2C92&sr=8-5
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No still need to get this fixed. We got back to our House and had to head to Texas to watch grandkids for a few weeks. I’ll pick up one of these testers though- thanks
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Rod & BJ
2019 3811MS , 2020 GMC 3500 Dually Denali Duramax, Anderson hitch.
Mesa, AZ
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