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12-01-2011, 08:26 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Hollister
Posts: 1,043
M.O.C. #10764
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Winterizing Inlet
Turned on the water heater bypass and drained the water heater.
Used the air compressor to blow out the lines.
Hooked up the hose to the Winterize inlet and put the other end into the RV antifreeze jug and turned on the water pump.
The water pump will not prime and distribute the antifreeze throughout the rv. I opened some faucets and it tries to prime, but no luck. Closed all faucets and valves, removed the hose from the antifreeze jug and could barely hear the pump trying to prime when I put the hose up to my ear. Even tried to open each faucet just a little to get it to prime.
Any suggestions? Could the white valve in the winterize inlet be defective?
Thanks in advance.
Joe
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12-01-2011, 08:37 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Calgary
Posts: 162
M.O.C. #10763
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Mine did the same thing... What I did was use a little bit of lung pressure into the jug while the pump was running where that was enough to get the pink stuff to the pump...
ONEDIT: An after thought I just got is that because I/we have blown the lines out there won't be any siphoning at the pump because there isn't any water being pushed through the lines... That could be the reason why it dosn't draw at the jug.... Just a thought... 
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12-01-2011, 08:41 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Hollister
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M.O.C. #10764
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Into the jug or the hose? Please elaborate.
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12-01-2011, 08:51 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Calgary
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M.O.C. #10763
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by Captain Joe
Into the jug or the hose? Please elaborate.
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Into the jug with the hose in the antifreeze... It didn't take much lung pressure in the jug to push te pink stuff up the hose if you raise the jug up to the inlet level.
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12-01-2011, 08:54 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Midlothian
Posts: 956
M.O.C. #40
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Use a funnel and fill the hose going to the pump while the pump is running to prime the hose and pump then it should pull it from the jug.
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12-01-2011, 08:55 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Englewood
Posts: 3,095
M.O.C. #164
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I have an older unit not sure if yours is the same. I need to turn a valve near the pump which changes the pick from the fresh water holding tank to the pickup hose for the pink Stuff
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12-01-2011, 08:57 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2003
Location: New Bern
Posts: 4,294
M.O.C. #311
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Joe,
I do it exactly the same way you did it. I do have to open a faucet to allow the pump to prime.
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12-01-2011, 09:01 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Hollister
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M.O.C. #10764
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Great forum and great people. Before I received Tim's response. I blew into the hose with the pump running and some air bubbles were seen coming out of the hose connection at the inlet. So I added a washer. Checked the forum and saw Tim's post, so I turned on the pump, raised the jug higher than the inlet, and blew air into the jug with the hose inserted and the pumped primed and the RV is now fully winterized. Thanks Tim and everyone who responded.
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12-01-2011, 09:09 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Winfield
Posts: 7,327
M.O.C. #6846
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I have difficulty too getting the flow started. I added an additional washer to the connection and at times still have to forcibly push the hose connection in to get the flow started. Any air draw at all will prevent the pump from drawing the liquid out of the jug. I have filled the hose with pink stuff as well, but in the end making sure the connection was tight was what was needed.
Bingo
On edit: Must have posted this after you resolved the issue. Every connection on our convenience center has had to be supplemented with additional washers to provide water-tight connections. Now you at least know the secret.
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12-01-2011, 11:17 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Goshen
Posts: 1,058
M.O.C. #2827
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Joe,
Question. If you used the air compressor to blow out the water lines, why did you want to pump the pink in? Wouldn't that be a good waste of antifreeze?
For years, I have been blowing them out and using a half gallon of pink to pour down all of the p-traps. Presurize the whole system after draining the water heater to 30 or 35 lbs, go thru and open all faucets until I get nothing but air. That includes the toilet and the washer/dryer hook-ups. Then, pour antifreeze down all drains to fill p-traps, shut down air compressor, open ALL faucets and open the low point drains under the unit and it is done.
Ain't had a problem yet.
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12-01-2011, 12:09 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Hollister
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M.O.C. #10764
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I have always used both methods in all my RVs and boats. I am not convinced that "ALL" the water is blown out using the compressed air method. There is still condensation in the pipes that will settle in a low spot. I am not convinced that the water pump is completely dry either. With RV antifreeze being very affordable, I do both methods and Montana makes it easy with the water heater bypass and winterizing inlet. I only have to use two jugs of the pink stuff. I will play this one on the conservative side, because if I do have a leak, with my luck, it will be in the hardest place to find and repair.
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12-01-2011, 02:28 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Alturas
Posts: 26
M.O.C. #11090
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I had the same problem when I winterized a few weeks ago. I just momentarily swiched from winterization to the freshwater side and back (no water in fresh water tank) and the pump immediately primed.
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12-02-2011, 02:33 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Goshen
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M.O.C. #2827
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Point well taken, Captain Joe. But, if a drop or, a tablespoon amount of water has room to expand inside a line or any type of container when it freezes, it won't damage anything. That is why I leave everything open to atmospheric pressure. Thank about what happens inside the holding tanks.
Not trying to be difficult or change your mind about the way to do things.......just provoking thought.
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12-02-2011, 03:19 AM
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Montana Fan
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Location: Adirondack
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M.O.C. #10754
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I do both also. Cheapest insurance you can buy.
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12-02-2011, 03:47 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Sebring
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M.O.C. #9969
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The best winterize routine: Head for warmer climate!
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12-02-2011, 06:10 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Goshen
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M.O.C. #2827
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What Michelle and Ann said! The best darned idea yet!!!!
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12-02-2011, 09:02 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Rising Fawn
Posts: 353
M.O.C. #11268
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I just winterized my Monty this past week.
Mine doesn't have a winterizing inlet, so I pour the antifreeze into the water tank with a curved-spout funnel. I get so sad when I see that pink coming out of the faucets! Months now before I go out again...
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12-02-2011, 10:24 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Hesperia
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M.O.C. #7787
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I just tried to winterize the trailer today and also had hard time priming it. Twice I unscrewed the connection hose and had to clean off the filter screen.
I looked into the antifreeze bottle and could see gabs of something floating around in it. The expiration date on the bottle said 11/10/2010 one year old. I think this stuff goes bad in due time.
From now on I'll make sure I use a more recent antifreeze.
Jack
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12-02-2011, 11:02 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 854
M.O.C. #5592
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I have A 3400 RL. I just winterized myself, same problem getting the pump to draw. Over came that. I checked the various pipes to ensure there was "pink stuff" in them. The one pipe without is the one feeding the hot water tank cold inlet. So how do you get "pink" there?
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12-02-2011, 03:34 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Rising Fawn
Posts: 353
M.O.C. #11268
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Opening a hot water faucet should do it.
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