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06-26-2009, 10:52 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Murrieta
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Will helium lighten the load?
Can helium be used for inflating tires, and if so will it lighten the load and by how much? How expensive could that be?
I don't know the merits or the practicality but consider what a wild possibility this could be.
Now, back to the campfire.
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06-26-2009, 11:07 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2007
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Bingo and Cathy - Our adventures begin in the hills of WV. We are blessed by our 2014 3850FL Big Sky (previous 2011 3750FL and 2007 3400RL) that we pull with a 2007 Chevy Silverado Classic DRW CC dually.
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06-26-2009, 11:17 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Murrieta
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M.O.C. #9257
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ROFL....
Bingo, Bingo! But wouldn't they only squeal when you got a leak, so wouldn't it be a good tire warning indicator?
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06-26-2009, 11:50 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Brownsburg
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Art, those must be pretty good drugs you are taking. Got any spares?
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06-26-2009, 12:21 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2006
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quote:Art, those must be pretty good drugs you are taking. Got any spares?
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Now I'm laughing too, I almost spit water all over my keyboard  .
Art, if you really want to lighten the load you could fill the trailer with about 500 helium filled balloons. Then, when you get to your destination just tie them on everything you can find outside the trailer for a nice "party" atmosphere.
Seriously, I don't think it would work very well. I am not a scientist, but I would think the helium would seep out fairly quickly.
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06-26-2009, 12:28 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: East Moriches
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The weight load on the axle will not change. Instead I filled all my holding tanks with helium and went fron 14000 lbs to 450 lbs. (LOL)
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06-26-2009, 12:40 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Sunshine
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M.O.C. #538
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Does this mean that the trucks hauling Helium down the highway weight less when loaded?
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06-26-2009, 12:47 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Murrieta
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M.O.C. #9257
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I like the holding tank comment, but one toilet flush and besides losing all the helium, there might be one heck of a squeal.
Good gracious LonnieB. You had a serious answer. Look for a Party Time if you need to refill.
Wow, all this thinking, NOW I need something. Sorry, no spare drugs, I only have enough for myself.
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06-26-2009, 12:51 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Bakersfield
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M.O.C. #15
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I have installed a helium generator on my rig. You can set it for various weights. I set mine just above zero. I want the tire to touch the pavement but only enough to get some traction. Of course I've had to actually fix all the leaks in my holding tanks! Also I have a 'quick release' vent stack dump. This allows me to apply more weight when I come in for a landing...... er I mean when I have to do an emergency stop! Works well so far. I'm really surprised I haven't seen more of them on the road.
Good luck. If any of you want to know where I purchased all the gear for this thing just drop me an email at Thereisoneineverycrowd.com! 
Happy Travels!
HamRad
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06-26-2009, 01:40 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Gardnerville
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The serious answers to your questions would be: yes, yes, not measurable, and very. Just imagine a helium balloon after a few days, then picture your tires after not too much longer.
Helium is usually transported as a liquid, which would make the truck heavier than if the tanks were filled with air.
Bob
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06-26-2009, 06:30 PM
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Montana Master
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Also, Helium is an EXTREMELY small molecule. Take it from a science teacher that He will find cracks and holes in your tires that air (N2 and O2 LARGE molecules) would never dream of trying to get out of. You will have trouble keeping your pressure up. "Air-tight" is not "Helium tight".
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06-27-2009, 06:22 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Brownsburg
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M.O.C. #5634
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Well all this leads to a question. Which weighs more - a truck filled with 1,000 pounds of feathers or the same truck filled with 1,000 pounds of helium.
Now Art after drinking some of that clear liquid in a mason jar you have that has more octane that gas - what might the answer be?
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06-27-2009, 07:07 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Fort Myers
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M.O.C. #4282
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06-27-2009, 10:00 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
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M.O.C. #2839
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Seal all the leaks in the Montana then fill it with Helium. The camper wll float down the road.
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06-27-2009, 10:10 AM
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Montana Master
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M.O.C. #8728
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OK, the fallicy in your statement is "seal all the leaks".
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06-27-2009, 10:29 AM
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Montana Master
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M.O.C. #2839
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OOpps..Seal all the leaks.... a impossible task.
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06-27-2009, 03:06 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: East Moriches
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M.O.C. #6436
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Everyone says I'm full of HOT AIR!! Does that qualify?
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06-27-2009, 08:43 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2007
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M.O.C. #7445
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HamRad, HamRad . . . shame on you! When I get tickled and laugh too long this late at night (12:45 AM), I can't sleep.
Loved your answer--it is so YOU!
Carolyn
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06-28-2009, 01:05 AM
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Montana Fan
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M.O.C. #3928
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by bigmurf
Does this mean that the trucks hauling Helium down the highway weight less when loaded?
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As a truck driver that hauls helium in bulk tube trailers we get asked this all the time and I respond by saying we use "extra heavy tires" to stay on the road  
but the trailers are heavy thick steel tubes and you can't tell empty from a full load, you have to open rear doors and read guages so ya don't pull a empty trailer to a customer,a full tube has around 3000 psi in it.
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06-28-2009, 08:56 AM
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Montana Master
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M.O.C. #538
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Cmp-Shooter: Yeah I have been in a shop in Amarillo that builds those trainers.
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