I tried plugging like normal my tailgater to keytv and nothing. Tried different cables and nothing. I had to go underneath and feed cable underneath slide and it works. How hard a repair to fix keytv? I already pulled the board at wet bay and tightened the cables. What color is supposed to be Sat?
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That's odd that it has been working and now not. Is OTA working? Is the KeyTv mod powered? Blue light on? If it has power I would suspect the KTV mod. As far as wiring colors, see the picture. Each TV location has a dedicated cable from the mod that duplexes the OTA, cable and sat signal. KeyTV mod will only provide a sat signal to one receiver.
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I haven’t tried any other tv locations.OTA works and blue light is on. I tightened all the cables. Changed out the coaxial cable. It shows some power to the satellite but it won’t move unless I plug directly to the Wally.
You say you plugged satellite dish in as normal and it didn't work? If it has been working it sounds like a signal strength issue as opposed to the Keytv. Have you recently moved the camper or dish? Can you get to the settings screen for the satellite? I'm not familiar with Direct, but with Dish Network, the minimum signal strength you can have and get reception is 40. The portable dishes aren't as powerful as the larger home models and have inherently lower signal strength; I believe the highest I've ever seen is in the mid 50s. Tall trees, mountains/hills, and weather can also affect your reception.
I don't have the Keytv, but on mine all the satellite wiring was in orange outer jacket coax; they used some black and brown jacketed for antenna and park cable. I don't know if this is a Keystone standard or just what they had on hand that day.
The satellite signal between the dish and receiver is very high frequency; typically 2.1-2.4 Mhz and everything in the cable path needs to be rated for 2.5-3.0 Mhz to be safe, they are notorious for burying splitters and barrel splices in the finished walls that aren't likely rated for this frequency. Another factor is signal loss in the cable; The total distance recommended between the dish and receiver is 50 feet which includes the length in the trailer that is difficult to even estimate because of how it may be routed. The only thing you can do is keep the cable you use between the dish and connection point as short as possible. You could try getting a length of RG11 coax for this purpose; it has about half the signal loss of RG6, but you will end up connecting to RG6 existing in the trailer. RG11 is big and very stiff and not suitable for interior wiring. Another option would be Belden 1694a cable; it's probably all around the best cable for coax installations. It has a lower signal loss than RG6 and it's more flexible. You can buy precut lengths form Amazon, but it will come with BNC connectors and you'll have to install F type connectors. I learned from experience you have to buy the Belden connectors, the RG6 type absolutely will not work.
Another enemy you have is if the coax wiring is configured so that it bends every time a slide extends or retracts. Coax doesn't like being continually flexed. You mentioned checking connections, there is actually a torque spec for tightening F type coax connectors. The spec is 30 in/lbs and there are small crows foot torque wrenches preset to this spec.
I found an inline amplifier for satellite signals, supposed to boost by 20db. I have one on order and supposed to be in a couple of days. This may well be snake oil, but I'll risk $10 to find out.
It doesn’t let me go to settings screen. I will see 2 Amber lights and nothing would happen. I couldn’t get to screen to pick my state. A amplifier sounds good. It isn’t getting enough power to work
Update on the satellite amplifier; it absolutely did not work. Amazon needs to be expecting this in their return box soon.
I did learn some lessons about Dish Network on Saturday. There was a ball game I very much wanted to see and could not get SEC Network at all. I called their customer service whom I have had great service before. The guy kept telling me I had to have an unobstructed view of the southern sky to receive satellite 110 which is the one that carries that channel. I'm currently camping in the FL panhandle and the only thing in the southern sky is the Gulf of Mexico. I'm getting satellite 119 perfectly; when asked to furnish a list of what channels were on which satellites, the absolutely refuse to furnish.
I also learned a lesson on local channels on the satellite. If you are a Dish Network customer at your home, like me, you can have them put the local stations where you're camping on the Dish. You have to call them to have this done, it does turn off the local channels at your home until you call to have it changed back. They require the street address at your campground and if the state you are camping in has a different tax on the service, you have to pay that too.
Update on the satellite amplifier; it absolutely did not work. Amazon needs to be expecting this in their return box soon.
I did learn some lessons about Dish Network on Saturday. There was a ball game I very much wanted to see and could not get SEC Network at all. I called their customer service whom I have had great service before. The guy kept telling me I had to have an unobstructed view of the southern sky to receive satellite 110 which is the one that carries that channel. I'm currently camping in the FL panhandle and the only thing in the southern sky is the Gulf of Mexico. I'm getting satellite 119 perfectly; when asked to furnish a list of what channels were on which satellites, the absolutely refuse to furnish.
I also learned a lesson on local channels on the satellite. If you are a Dish Network customer at your home, like me, you can have them put the local stations where you're camping on the Dish. You have to call them to have this done, it does turn off the local channels at your home until you call to have it changed back. They require the street address at your campground and if the state you are camping in has a different tax on the service, you have to pay that too.
I never change location, I use OTA for locals. As far sat's, 119 is your subscribed channels. I find that I have to do a hard restart of the Wally sometimes twice and the slightest twig can interfere.
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Tony & Donna & the best dog ever, Murphy.
2022 Montana HC, 295RL, 720 watts Solar, Onan 3600 LPG, 2K inverter, 200AH Lithium. 2020 GMC Denali 2500 6.6 Duramax, Demco 21K Auto Slide
I never change location, I use OTA for locals. As far sat's, 119 is your subscribed channels. I find that I have to do a hard restart of the Wally sometimes twice and the slightest twig can interfere.
That's normally my MO, however this campground is like death valley for OTA TV and cell service. I learned this painful lesson during last year's visit and spent a lot of time and money making what I thought would be improvements. The transmitters for the local stations are nearly 50 miles away which is a big ask for even a large directional antenna. I added the sensar attachment to my batwing antenna, installed the Winegard sensar pro which gives signal strength display and up to 20 db of amplification, I also installed another variable gain amp with up to 25 db of gain. When I did my initial scan, it showed 22 channels and I'm thinking I did good. Turns out at least 17 of them are showing Gunsmoke or Andy Griffith reruns, or maybe a shopping channel or two. The only channels that carried NFL games were very poor reception and faded in and out. Adding the locals to the dish was a desperation move to watch some NFL games.
I did make what I believe is a good discovery for OTA channels. Nestgen TV, or ASTC 3.0 broadcast is apparently a growing thing. It requires the channel being broadcast in this format and a tuner to receive it; new TVs are supposedly being built with this tuner. I ordered one of the boxes, and actually works very well. The stations that broadcast in this format are still pretty limited and not available everywhere. The Nextgen box has a coax input and the output is HDMI, which works into my new wiring scheme. I would like to keep the coax input on the TV(s) open for parks that offer cable.
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