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Old 01-15-2007, 06:24 AM   #1
William H. Collier
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Ford 6.4 Video

Here is an interesting video for anyone interested in the 6.4.
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http://www.motorcraftservice.com/vdi...superduty.html
 
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Old 01-15-2007, 11:28 AM   #2
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Interesting video.We will be watching the several truck and diesel forums we belong to for performance feedback. That will tell the tale. Hopefully by this summer we will have enough data to make a decision.
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Old 01-16-2007, 03:43 AM   #3
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Hi Rich,

I am curious why you are considering a move from the V10 to Diesel? I have never owned a gas TV (nor daily driver (we own 2 E300TD's)) as our personal preference ranks longevity and economy as a priority. We typically run 250-300K on our cars; 200K on the TVs. With the introduction of V10s the performance #s look very impressive compared to the Diesels. When upgrading the TV last year, we considered our first gasser, but in the end, decided we are just too set in our ways and the price difference, although Diesel a $5K premium, was not a deal breaker. In the past, it was a no-brainer, as the fuel cost would always drive the overall cost of ownership down after the first 80-100K miles.

With the 08, the engine premium takes another big leap. Fuel prices remain 30-40 cents above gas. (I am very happy our TV is only 1 year old and an upgrade desision is 6-7 years away.... But just thinking, if I had to replace it now, does the V10 offer a better value for Towing???

If you don't mind sharing, what is it about the V10 that you don't like?

On a side subject, why is it the US Auto Groups charge such a premium for Diesel. The European Makes tyrpically charge a 500 premium. In fact, 10 years ogo when we purchased our 95 MB E300, it was $500 less than the gas engine... Is is simply a huge supply/demand thing or do they really cost that much more to make?

Just wondering... Tim
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Old 01-16-2007, 05:28 AM   #4
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We like everything about the V-10. It has served our needs 100%. We will not compare the Diesel/Gas as they are apples/oranges.We purchase based on needs and our needs have changed. When we purchased in Feb of 05 we were weekend/ short trip campers, camped maybe 40 /50 days a year, The truck was a tow vehicle only.When it was not pulling it was parked in the driveway. Stored in the winter.Put 8500 miles on it in 22 months.
(we also buy on the Ford Family plan so we buy Ford for the savings and..we did not care for the Ford 6.0 diesel motor)Helen has now retired and we are long timers. We have been out for 34 days and are 2900 miles into our winter adventure. It will be near 7000 miles before we return to Ohio. We expect to do 20/30K miles a year from here out.Our criteria for the diesel motor has been posted many times on the forum. Will you drive 25,000 miles a year or more, will you keep the truck for 5 years or more. Will you do a lot of driving and pulling in the mountains..will it be your daily driver.Our answer to all those questions now is.....yes.... A diesel is justified.... We will not discuss fuel milage..the diesel is better of course. However..if Fuel Mileage was the primary reason for purchasing the TV we would still have the Ford Ranger and a pop up camper..not the monster we pull.

We purchased the V-10 based on our camping needs.It was the perfect choice for us and our needs.Our needs now require the diesel.

Also..At this stage of our lifes, We are both retired, we are free to do as we want when we want to. We do not know how much time we have to enjoy life and our great adventure. We do not spend money foolishly( although There are those that would say camping is foolish) but we do not dwell on the price of fuel.. gas or diesel. We do not crunch numbers on how long it will take to make up the difference by buying the diesel vs gas. We do not stay in Wall mart or K mart parking lots.We do not calculate MPG or how much per mile it cost to camp. We will buy a new truck evey year if we feel we need to.. We will run full ahead till we run out of money.. but we will have lived our great adventure..our way..All of this applies to us only. Tim..Look at what you need..then see if you can do it.
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Old 01-16-2007, 08:47 AM   #5
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Thanks Rich, execellent point... but you two do not look old enough to be retired... Can't wait until we can start the long timing.. about anther 15 year or so for us... TC
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Thanks Rich, execellent point... but you two do not look old enough to be retired... Can't wait until we can start the long timing.. about anther 15 year or so for us... TC
We are both retired Federal Employee's. Federal Aviation Adm..55/30 and out. I retired 6 years ago and Helen retired in Nov of 06.Thus our great adventure.
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Old 01-18-2007, 02:25 PM   #7
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I noticed when you go through the entire video there is reference to after market modifications. It states right up front to not make any mods or alternations. Thought that was interesting from days gone by.
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