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10-02-2019, 07:19 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Eureka Springs
Posts: 432
M.O.C. #17829
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Autolevel
For the autolevel to work properly, does it require the front of the fiver to be above level?
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10-02-2019, 07:36 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Granger TX
Posts: 2,596
M.O.C. #21044
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auto level
I think I always notice that the first motion is "down in front"...no matter where the front is (high or low) when I push the button...so I usually make sure it has room to go down.
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2019 Chevy 3500 High Country DRW
2018 Montana 3921FB
Aussie Gus + Texas Heeler Jimmy
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10-02-2019, 08:19 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Jacksonville
Posts: 101
M.O.C. #21053
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Mine always goes down first, so make sure your truck has been pulled far enough forward. I learned the hard way and it dropped on my truck rails. No real damage though so I got lucky.
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Ray, Cindy and Goldie the Lab
2018 Montana 3791RD
2017 RAM HD3500, DRW, Cummins Diesel
Jacksonville, FL
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10-02-2019, 08:59 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Hixson
Posts: 3,436
M.O.C. #11397
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On our 2012 3585SA it wan not necessary for the front to be high but on our current 2018.5 3791RD it is necessary. Go figure!
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Full Timers 9/1/2010 through 1/16/2020.
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10-02-2019, 09:42 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 20,229
M.O.C. #2839
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Razrbk
For the autolevel to work properly, does it require the front of the fiver to be above level?
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Yes....If not the front will go to the ground. It is usually above level when taken of the hitch but make sure before you start auto level,
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10-02-2019, 12:03 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Carmichael - CA
Posts: 7,690
M.O.C. #4831
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On my 2012, and most others I know of, it doesn't matter if the pin is above or below level. Autolevel doesn't care. It does its thing regardless. The hitch in the giddy up comes when you want to hook back up. Normally you press the Left and Right buttons simultaneously to return the pin to the height it was at when you unhitched. This only works when the pin was above level at unhitch time. If the pin was below level you get a "Feature Disabled" message and have to set the pin height manually.
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There is more to life than fuel mileage.
2012 Montana 3700RL Big Sky Package towed by a 2015 Ford F350 6.7L PSD 4WD CC LWB
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10-02-2019, 02:29 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 20,229
M.O.C. #2839
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Do this test. Unhook the RV from the truck. Move the truck away from the RV. Lower the front if the RV till it is below level. Hit the auto level button and see what happens.
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10-02-2019, 04:42 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: California’s Central Valley
Posts: 26
M.O.C. #24970
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Yes
I have a 1 week old Montana 3130RE with hydraulic levelers. The manual states you must have the front higher than level before starting the Auto Level sequence. As noted earlier, the first move the system makes is lowering the front.
Chef
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10-02-2019, 06:20 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Mountain Home
Posts: 864
M.O.C. #20949
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The six point Lippert hydraulic leveling system won’t.. in most cases be able to auto level if nose is below a “level” condition when auto level is pressed
The algorithm is... nose dips below 0.0 to find a negative value. This is determined by the front compartment control module AND remote rear sensor located behind last axle.. centered.. up inside on a flat mounting plate... colorplast hides the remote sensor
Once a negative value is found then the unit raises to 0.0 value front to back...
IF during auto level sequence the TWO F/B sensors can’t detect a less than 0 value because unit was already below 0.0 when auto level was started most of the t8me the front of the fifth wheel will continue to lower and error out
To clear error raise front of fifth wheel to just above level in manual mode at re select auto level
All of this is stored in eprom on the front control module....that’s how the system works
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10-02-2019, 07:08 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Grand Rapids
Posts: 1,898
M.O.C. #9561
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no. just push the auto and go.
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10-08-2019, 12:35 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Oklahoma City
Posts: 181
M.O.C. #23433
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Yes, it must be above level to start and then it will go below level and start the auto level sequence. If it is not above level to start then the auto reconnect feature will be disabled.
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2019 Montana High Country 330RL
2005 Ford F-350 "Bulletproofed"
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10-08-2019, 02:54 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Alton
Posts: 2,897
M.O.C. #24086
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Good to know. Thanks Chuck
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Daryl and Marianne,
2019 3130re 20th Anniversary Edition
2016 F350 Lariat
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10-08-2019, 08:36 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Eureka Springs
Posts: 432
M.O.C. #17829
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Interesting. Sounds like it depends on the year and model —- autolevel functions fine regardless of whether or not it’s above level on some; and for others it needs to be engaged above level to function properly. My 2015 3100rl needs to be above level....
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10-09-2019, 08:51 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 20,229
M.O.C. #2839
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It does in most cases need to be above level also inmost cases it is above level when unhitched and the truck moved forward
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10-09-2019, 09:29 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Mena
Posts: 504
M.O.C. #17723
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Most of the time we just un-hitch and hit the auto-level and it works.
2 or 3 times this has resulted in the wheels being off the ground.
When this happens, we will retract the rear legs and lower the front well below un-hitch level and then hit the auto-level and usually get a 'better' level.
Of course it mostly depends upon the site.
Its is just a machine, sometimes you just have to manually tell it what you want.
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Ron & Rhonda
2021 3230CK Montana Legacy w/ Super SolarFlex
(old rig) 2015 Montana 3611RL 8K I.S., Disk Brakes, Sailun Tires
2015 F350 XLT Crew Dually 20K B&W Companion
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10-09-2019, 10:22 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Tacoma
Posts: 1,567
M.O.C. #20475
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In most cases you are already above level in the front when you take the weight off the hitch to pull out. You shouldn't have to adjust any thing for the auto level to work properly. I do it all the time and have never had any problems.
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2017 HC HM352RL 2018 Dodge 3500 laramie CC LB 4x4
Curt Q25 with puck system, Factory air bags
Happy Trails
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10-09-2019, 11:04 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 20,229
M.O.C. #2839
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Easy to check what you have after unhitching and moving the truck away lower the front till it is visually below level the hit auto level if the front hits the ground you now know.
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10-09-2019, 01:20 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Jordan Station
Posts: 40
M.O.C. #22287
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We have a 2018 High Country and since purchasing it last year new we’ve had several problems with the auto level but nothing major. One of the rear jacks did fall out on a trip but we got past that. Since I’ve had to reset or “Home” my system several times I’ve started levelling the unit as much as practically possible in all directions including using levelling pads under the wheels. It’s a bit old school but now when I hit the Auto Level it does it’s thing but it hasn’t kicked out any errors since. The issues seem more like programming glitches than significant technical design problems.
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10-09-2019, 01:46 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Albany
Posts: 409
M.O.C. #11972
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Yes. According to Lippert, the starting point for auto-level is with the nose high.
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2012 3150RL. G614 tires. Hardwired surge protector. Level-Up Hydraulic leveling.
2013 F-350 Lariat 6.7 PSD SRW SC LB 4X4 OEM hitch, air self-leveling on rear. 57-gallon replacement fuel tank. DieselSite water separator/fuel filter.
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10-09-2019, 01:47 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Manhattan
Posts: 1,144
M.O.C. #1846
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On my coach I always lower the front until almost at the bottom. If I don't my unit lowers the front an inch or two and then starts the leveling process, many times leveling so high that the tires (or a tire at least) is off the ground. By lowering the front end in advance, I've not had that situation occur.
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