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09-27-2019, 09:24 AM
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Established Member
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: west dundee
Posts: 20
M.O.C. #24705
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Remote for 2012 Montana
I am a "new" owner of a 2012 3852rl. The rig was bought new in 2012 by the previous owner. He replaced the battery for me the day before I picked it up. He was upset it was not working. All equipment works just not the remote. LCI says it has to be linked to the trailer after battery replacement.
I called Keystone asking where is the board on the trailer is mounted and they said it could be in many places. Plus the lady said they recommend a dealer do this because of electricity danger???
Is this true and does anybody know where the board is located?
Thanks
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09-27-2019, 10:00 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Kansas City, Missouri
Posts: 2,727
M.O.C. #7992
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I don't know where it is located on your model. All of them I have seen are either in the front compartment where the battery is or the basement storage area, drivers side. What a BS answer from keystone about the electrical danger. You are just pairing a battery operated remote with a 12v control module. LCI should have provided you the procedure to link the units.
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09-27-2019, 10:05 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Vancouver Island
Posts: 894
M.O.C. #14417
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From experience I know you don't have to link the remote to the trailer after replacing the battery in the remote. I have replaced mine a few times without any issues.
I would check to see if the battery was installed correctly in the remote and that it is the right battery.
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Lenny and Ros
2012 Montana 3400RL,680 Watts Solar,4xT-105 Trojans,GP-ISW2000-12 Inverter,Trimetric 2020, EMSHW50C
2009 Chevy Silverado 3500 LTZ Duramax 4x4 CC Dually, Banks Speed Brake
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09-27-2019, 10:05 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Grand Rapids
Posts: 1,898
M.O.C. #9561
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Throw the remote away. A waste of time and effort in my opinion. We used it a little years ago but it is safer for you to be looking at what you are doing.
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09-27-2019, 10:30 AM
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Established Member
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: west dundee
Posts: 20
M.O.C. #24705
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lenny K
From experience I know you don't have to link the remote to the trailer after replacing the battery in the remote. I have replaced mine a few times without any issues.
I would check to see if the battery was installed correctly in the remote and that it is the right battery.
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Thanks, LCI the maker told me you have to link it. I may listen to other folks that said throw it away and watch everything operate.
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09-27-2019, 10:55 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Pensacola (mail forward service)
Posts: 3,198
M.O.C. #13740
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Check to make sure the 12vdc battery is in correctly. Pairing is just pushing a bottom on the receiver module and any button on the remote. The receiver should be a black potted electronics assy with lots of inline fuses connected to it. More than likely on the back wall in the front compartment above Tha battery.
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09-27-2019, 01:38 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Vancouver Island
Posts: 894
M.O.C. #14417
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I disagree about throwing the remote away.
You have more control when you are putting your slides out when using the remote as you will be right there watching your slide ensuring you never hit anything.
Same for putting out the landing legs. If the ground is not level you can easily make sure you have enough blocking under a leg without having go back and forth to the stationery control to ensure the trailer goes up level with no frame torque. The rear stabilizers are also easier as you are right there instead of at the front.
Putting the awning in and out is also another benefit.
I would never go without one.
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Lenny and Ros
2012 Montana 3400RL,680 Watts Solar,4xT-105 Trojans,GP-ISW2000-12 Inverter,Trimetric 2020, EMSHW50C
2009 Chevy Silverado 3500 LTZ Duramax 4x4 CC Dually, Banks Speed Brake
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09-27-2019, 03:09 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: 1000 oaks
Posts: 978
M.O.C. #19630
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lenny K
I disagree about throwing the remote away.
You have more control when you are putting your slides out when using the remote as you will be right there watching your slide ensuring you never hit anything.
Same for putting out the landing legs. If the ground is not level you can easily make sure you have enough blocking under a leg without having go back and forth to the stationery control to ensure the trailer goes up level with no frame torque. The rear stabilizers are also easier as you are right there instead of at the front.
Putting the awning in and out is also another benefit.
I would never go without one.
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I second that opinion. Use mine every trip for the same reasons.
My 'board" is above the batteries on the bulkhead. There is a Blue or Red button on the board. Press it and then quickly press the bottom center button or maybe the one above it and you will be connected.
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09-27-2019, 10:01 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Carmichael - CA
Posts: 7,690
M.O.C. #4831
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I too have a 2012 with the remote and I would not be without it. Changing the battery does not affect the communication link. I had to replace my remote a while ago (stolen with truck) and it had to be paired. I seem to recall the instructions are printed on the control module which is mounted on the back wall of the front compartment (aka Garage).
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Carl (n Susan)
There is more to life than fuel mileage.
2012 Montana 3700RL Big Sky Package towed by a 2015 Ford F350 6.7L PSD 4WD CC LWB
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09-29-2019, 11:24 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Waco
Posts: 122
M.O.C. #22946
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Giacalone
I am a "new" owner of a 2012 3852rl. The rig was bought new in 2012 by the previous owner. He replaced the battery for me the day before I picked it up. He was upset it was not working. All equipment works just not the remote. LCI says it has to be linked to the trailer after battery replacement.
I called Keystone asking where is the board on the trailer is mounted and they said it could be in many places. Plus the lady said they recommend a dealer do this because of electricity danger???
Is this true and does anybody know where the board is located?
Thanks
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I have a 2012 3582RL and when I changed the remote battery I had to reprogram it. Very simple process. The board on mine was located above the batteries on the wall and had the instructions on how to sync it on it. VERY simple.
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09-29-2019, 02:11 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Denver
Posts: 1,049
M.O.C. #5329
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Remote? Hell, that’s what copilots are for.
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09-29-2019, 06:41 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: westminster md
Posts: 2,328
M.O.C. #17894
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mazboy
Throw the remote away. A waste of time and effort in my opinion. We used it a little years ago but it is safer for you to be looking at what you are doing.
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I agree, more trouble that its worth. Battery goes dead fast. Tried ours for a bit and gave up.
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09-30-2019, 07:02 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 1,789
M.O.C. #14547
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If it's this remote, I've found that it does NOT need to be relinked with the 'brain' when you replace the battery. Check the battery orientation first then go out and give it a try. If like ours, the LCD screen may have failed after being dropped once too often. If that is so, you can count down the button clicks for the component operation and it will work just fine. I have a new one (RVUpgrades, $120) but as yet haven't done the linking on the 'brain' which is mounted in the battery compartment, just above them. The instructions are on line as well. Oh and did the previous owner show you how it works. It isn't intuitive. If no, one of us or I can walk you through the routine.
On ours, the first 4 clicks are the slides, then next, awning, front landing gear then the rear stabilizers. I will be linking the new one shortly but want to wait until the summer camping season is over, JIC I have a problem
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2014 Montana High Country 343RL (Sold!)
2011 Ford 6.7 Lariat CCLB (Went to PU Heaven)
2019 F150SC XLT SE Sport,w/full tow package
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09-30-2019, 06:36 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Redlands
Posts: 460
M.O.C. #9135
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I really like having one. On ours you have to press the LCI button at the bottom, and then the ON button right above it in order to use it. When the connection is successful, the Scare light on the door side will flash momentarily. Sometimes, I have to do it more than once if it times out between using functions while I'm setting up or closing up. The label on the back says it will time out after 5 minutes.
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09-30-2019, 08:08 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Carmichael - CA
Posts: 7,690
M.O.C. #4831
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A 2012 Montana came with this style remote. There were several different faceplates depending on the Montana model (don't ask me why, I discovered this when I had to replace mine). I have changed the battery 3 times in 8 years and have never had to re-pair with the "brain" on the garage wall. I don't understand those who say the remote burns batteries. Albeit, I mostly use the remote to adjust the height of the pin who hooking up so maybe only 3 batteries in 8 years is normal?
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Carl (n Susan)
There is more to life than fuel mileage.
2012 Montana 3700RL Big Sky Package towed by a 2015 Ford F350 6.7L PSD 4WD CC LWB
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10-01-2019, 02:12 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Waco
Posts: 122
M.O.C. #22946
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Quote:
Originally Posted by carl n susan
A 2012 Montana came with this style remote. There were several different faceplates depending on the Montana model (don't ask me why, I discovered this when I had to replace mine). I have changed the battery 3 times in 8 years and have never had to re-pair with the "brain" on the garage wall. I don't understand those who say the remote burns batteries. Albeit, I mostly use the remote to adjust the height of the pin who hooking up so maybe only 3 batteries in 8 years is normal?
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That's the one I have.
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10-06-2019, 01:39 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Lee's Summit
Posts: 5
M.O.C. #9697
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Remote for 2012 Montana
I disagree that you should use the remote all the time. My husband liked to use it when we first got ours. Then some poles shifted inside the trailer that we had on the floor for transport. The slipped back by the chairs. When he opened the slide, it caught the chair and caused damage to the trim on the slide. Was an easy fix, but totally unnecessary. We now open slides from inside so you can watch to make sure nothing has shifted. Only time we use the remote is from the living room to roll out the canopy to dry it when at home.
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10-06-2019, 05:20 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Albany
Posts: 409
M.O.C. #11972
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I have a 2012 3150RL with a remote control. The "board" for the remote functions in mine is in the front storage compartment where the batteries are located. Looking from the front, the "board" is high up on the right-hand side. The various connections are labeled for the items they control. I have disconnected my batteries several times and never had to re-sync the remote to the "board". This applies to battery replacement too. We use Lippert Carpet Protectors on both of our living room slides. I use the remote for the large slideout because one of the carpet protectors likes to slide when the slideout is being retracted. Using the remote, I can stand on the carpet protector until there is enough weight on it to keep it from sliding. Of course, if DW is available then that is her job. In that case I use the switch on the control panel. My remote looks like the one posted by Carl n Susan above.
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10-06-2019, 08:29 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Eagan, MN
Posts: 107
M.O.C. #18907
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Hate to disagree, but on previous Mountaineer, was extending outside making sure the slide missed a pole. Suddenly, the slide shook, popped loudly and continued. Went inside and a recliner had moved, strapped down but still moved, wedged and had shattered the inside slide facade. Looked like a bomb went off. Slides win over recliners usually but the wood facade was the week link. Was able to put everything back together, but still a bad day.
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2014 Montana 3402RL, Disk brakes, Sailun S637
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10-06-2019, 09:22 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Omaha
Posts: 258
M.O.C. #17319
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Our 2010 Mountaineer has the same remote as DRKNAPP. I only use the remote, unless I forget to bring it. It's much easier to view the hitch pin height, to position blocks under the rear stabilizers and to open the slides. I can stand outside and watch for tree clearance on the slides or be inside checking nothing is behind the slide flanges, or to operate the awning as soon as I unhook the tie downs if the wind has increased. I wouldn't be without it.
The first batteries in our remote lasted a couple of years. The replacement batteries from Interstate Batteries only last about a year. But we never have to do any pairing. Just replace the battery and it works.
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