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Old 12-29-2021, 09:54 AM   #1
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Tire Age Replacement

I am running the original tires on a 2018 Montano 3721RL that has tires dates 1417-1617, meaning they are coming up on five years in the May-Jun 22 timeframe. Very low use and miles but the golden rule of replacement is near. You can read some threads that talk 4-8 years replacements, some suggest 5 years period.

I the past I had a habit of trading RVs before need of tires but at this point in life I think I am staying with my 2018 since I have finally got all the bugs out and would hate to again go through the debugging process.

What is the general consensus of the group for tire changing of the Sailuns based on age?
 
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Old 12-29-2021, 11:07 AM   #2
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Glen,

With our heat in AZ, I replace tires and batteries at 3 years regardless of mileage.
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Old 12-29-2021, 11:47 AM   #3
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I’m thinking about going 5 years depending on sidewall dry rot.
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Old 12-29-2021, 01:27 PM   #4
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Goodyear says 5 years and after that they won’t even repair a flat. Or that is what corporate says. A local store might but don’t tell corporate.
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The OEM Rainier tires that came on my rig started showing “micro-cracking” on the sidewalls in year 3. I replaced all 5 tires with Salians (made in China).
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Old 12-29-2021, 04:15 PM   #6
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Really depends on your peace of mind. In my case since we full time, it would sooner rather than later if I was approaching 5 years out of them which the maximum time I would be comfortable with tire age depending on how I used them. A trailer tire blow out will really ruin your day, not to mention some consequential trailer damage too boot. AZ Traveler is giving you good advice on the tires, at least for his situation. YMMV.
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Old 12-29-2021, 04:30 PM   #7
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The Goodyear G614 warranty is only for four years (ask me how I know). The Sailun people say their tire is warranted for 8 years but I am planning to replace at 5 years this Spring.
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Old 12-29-2021, 09:17 PM   #8
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The 2018 3721 came wit Sailun st235. 80R16. The 85R16 is about .9 “ more in overall diameter and has an additional 400 load weight. Some note upgrading to the 85. Anyone upgrading with any pro or con feedback?
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I went with the 85s for the additional weight load and the extra height.
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Old 12-29-2021, 09:50 PM   #10
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4 or 5 years without fail is good insurance, regardless what the tires look like.
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Old 12-30-2021, 06:41 AM   #11
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Based on my experience, replace tires at 3 years. It has worked the past 10+ years.
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Old 12-30-2021, 06:58 AM   #12
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I have no problem with the factory recommendation even if it is 8 years. Then again, mine is stored indoors so UV degredation is not a factor. The treadwear is even and they are balanced. IMO, the tires have proven themselves to be dependable having the miles they have on them.
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Old 12-30-2021, 09:19 AM   #13
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I have no problem with the factory recommendation even if it is 8 years. Then again, mine is stored indoors so UV degredation is not a factor. The treadwear is even and they are balanced. IMO, the tires have proven themselves to be dependable having the miles they have on them.
Same here , I will go at least 6 years with mine ( Sailun ) Not a lot of miles , when sitting they are covered . As you say the wear is even ,and they are balanced . Mine have enough miles on them ,no worries about dependability .
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Old 12-30-2021, 12:03 PM   #14
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I've always went 6 years with my G614's with no issues, however I just recently retired, only put about 4,000 miles a year on them and keep the sun side covered. as we will be doing more traveling now, going to replace them this year, then every 5 moving forward. I will stick with G614's.
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Old 01-02-2022, 02:29 PM   #15
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Folks should go with what makes them comfortable. Used to be most ST tires weren't good after three years. But, the newer generation of ST tires seem to be lasting 4-5 years and longer. I'm coming up on 4 years with Sailun, but their born on date is late 2016. I'm okay with another year, but if anyone is constantly worrying if today is the day a tire is going to fail, perhaps it's better for that person to change out earlier.
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Old 01-02-2022, 08:30 PM   #16
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Yes please get new ones 5 yr old are just not safe no how pretty they look.
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Old 01-02-2022, 08:31 PM   #17
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Please get new ones, 5 yrs old are just not safe no matter how pretty they are.
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Old 01-02-2022, 11:44 PM   #18
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We have a 2014 3582RL 40' and we shredded one of the original 10 Ply Trailer King tires in 2019. It failed without warning. In fact ithey looked great; plenty of tread and no visible cracks. Turns out though on closer inspection that there were cracks visible inside the threads, hidden from view. Along the way we learned that the tires combined were rated 600 lbs below the gross weight rating of the fifth wheel. Keystone's answer to that was that not all the camper's weight is loaded on the tires, so it's deemed sufficient. Well we upgraded to 14 Ply rated tires anyway, but going forward we are sticking to replacing then every 5 years regardless. It's low cost insurance.

Besides that (first) incident, we've had a myriad of tire troubles. Mistake nr 2 was that we didn't get a new 14 Ply spare when we teplaced the set. When we headed out on the next trip, we hit a steel spike that promptly deflated one of the new tires. Our TPMS alerted us in time to avoid damage. Out comes the spare (the old 10 Ply) and we figured we should be able to make it to the next 180 miles to our destination. Wrong! That tire shredded also without warning and blew open the side of our camper, plus it knocked the valve stem off the new 14 Ply tire behind it. We were down and out with three flat tires late at night way up in northern Minnesota. Thank goodness Highway Patrol was kind enough to call around and get us the help we needed.

We also had two new tires on the truck go out last summer. On one the valve stem failed. On the other one the cords simply delaminated after we drove through Death Valley It was 119⁰F there so that may have played a roll.

Moral of the story... don't skimp on tires. Get the best ones you can afford to get.

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Old 01-03-2022, 08:03 AM   #19
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I am all for listening to the manufacturer as to their recommended change interval. My 3075RL was light enough to run Michelin XPS Ribs and Michelin said inspect yearly after 5 years and replace after 10. I went 9 years before replacing and the tires still looked new with something over 25,000 miles on them and never even a low tire.
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I am running the original tires on a 2018 Montano 3721RL that has tires dates 1417-1617, meaning they are coming up on five years in the May-Jun 22 timeframe. Very low use and miles but the golden rule of replacement is near. You can read some threads that talk 4-8 years replacements, some suggest 5 years period.

I the past I had a habit of trading RVs before need of tires but at this point in life I think I am staying with my 2018 since I have finally got all the bugs out and would hate to again go through the debugging process.

What is the general consensus of the group for tire changing of the Sailuns based on age?
I'm honestly dumfounded by trailer tires on our RV's. I see equipment trailers and landscapers all over the road. Contractors with trailers. It seems as if they are somehow blessed with good rubber.
I just retired.

My farmer friend says retire is what you do to an old tractor.

But I just replaced my tires with Saluns last year, I have zero miles on them. My camper is parked beside the garage and gets maybe 3 hrs of sunlight. If it is due to sun damage Why do others not have these problems?
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