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Old 12-14-2009, 11:20 AM   #1
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Hope this is the right forum. Anyway . . . I saw a pic of a MOC member towing a trailer with a golf cart on it behind his fifth wheeler. I sent him a question about that via e-mail and he chose not to respond, so . . . my question is "Is this legal?" My dealer tells me that here in Virginia it is a violation to tow anything with the 5er.
Is he blowing smoke or is that the case? What about in other states?
Also, I'd guess if you had to back up for any reason a bit of a situation might develop.
Any ideas?
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Old 12-14-2009, 11:36 AM   #2
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Jerry here it SC I pull mine and have pulled it in NC,Tn,ga It is double towing you will see alot of tractor& trailers pulling two trailers that is legal. I went to a state trooper that I know he said it is legal and he pulls his that way. now there are folks on here that think safety is a factor I wont argue that I do it JMHO. look at my Sig.
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(On edit) you do need a good hitch on the montana
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Old 12-14-2009, 11:52 AM   #3
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I would check with your State for the real answer to the question. I would not do it my self because I am one of those who think it is a safety issue to tow anything behind a 5th wheel. We would really like to pull the Honda back there. It would make life a lot easier...But.....
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Old 12-14-2009, 11:59 AM   #4
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It is legal here in Mi. providing that the overall length does not exceed 60'. Its been done here for yrs, but every state has there own set of laws. I also think that in most cases no one will bother you in most states as scductman said in his post. Safe is how you drive and prepare in my opinion, but thats just my opinion.

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Old 12-14-2009, 12:35 PM   #5
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As Rich said you need to check with your state i know here in Louisiana you can double tow
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Old 12-15-2009, 01:59 PM   #6
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Most any state west of the Mississippi allows double towing (some refer to it as triple towing)east of the Mississippi, some do and some don't. There are several websites that list by state what configuration you can tow in. Here in the Kansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, and Texas area the max length is 65', but many of us are a little over. I've never been or heard of anyone being stopped and measured. There will be some chime in about all the negatives ... there will be some chime in about all the positives. Some wouldn't put a bicycle behind their fiver and in the same breath load the 60 gal fresh water tank (@680 lbs)located nearly on the end of the frame ... hop in the truck and drive away. I propose go with what you are comfortable doing. That being said, I've towed jetskis and boats behind 2 different Montana's for over 10 years with no worries. A good hitch bolted to the rear frame is mandatory.
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Old 12-16-2009, 03:57 AM   #7
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It is my understanding that Keystone says only 200# should be placed on any hitch on the back of a Montana. It that's true, I certainly would not tow anything back there, the stress would be more than 200#.
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Old 12-16-2009, 04:40 PM   #8
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It is not legal in Washington State. I would think if you thought you could tow into to a state where it is not legal the state patrol would let you know real fast. If it was grandfathered in because your home state allowed it every trucking outfit would be hauling triple rigs on all roads.
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Old 12-16-2009, 04:51 PM   #9
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If you look at a sneider road atlas triple towing is a tractor pulling "3" pup trailers. I have one That is where I found out. JMHO.
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Old 12-17-2009, 11:43 AM   #10
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Check these links out. They lists all states
http://www.towingworld.com/articles/TowingLaws.htm
http://www.hitchemup.com/statetowinglaws.htm
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Old 12-17-2009, 12:02 PM   #11
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It is my understanding that Keystone says only 200# should be placed on any hitch on the back of a Montana. It that's true, I certainly would not tow anything back there, the stress would be more than 200#.
Tom, If I'm not mistaken, and I could be, the 200 lbs was in regards to the inch and 1/4 receiver they put on the newer models. Their original intent was to allow folks to haul a bike rack and a couple of bikes. Several of the leaders at Keystone rallied against the hitch but upper management won out.

We had a 2 inch receiver welded to the frame by MorRyde. They say it is rated for 3,000 lbs and a 300 lb tongue weight. We only plan to haul bikes with ours but wanted something more substantial than the tiny hitch that Keystone put on. We realize these are MorRydes figures but we, in no way, plan on exceeding anything.

The proviso from Keystone was a warranty issue and since we are long out of that we are not as concerned about warranty issues. If we break it-we will buy it, so to speak.

They weighed us at the service center in Oct and counseled us on that, so I imagine that was a CYA thing on their part and possibly to deny a claim in the future. At least I can see the writing on the wall....richfaa might be able to add to this as, I believe, he had the same hitch installed.
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Old 12-17-2009, 01:03 PM   #12
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Phil...I'm not questioning the hitch, but the ability of the frame to handle whatever is on the hitch.
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Old 12-17-2009, 03:28 PM   #13
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Phil You are right about the hitches. I built my hitch out of 3"x3" heavy wall tubeing cross braced with 1.5"x1.5" tubeing and welded in the frame Then a 2" receiver. I tried to make the frame a box at the rear.
Johnnyg Those are good links The first one shows no triple towing in alot of states and the second shows you can tow 2 trailers. Makes me feel better about double towing.
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Old 12-17-2009, 04:27 PM   #14
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Phil is correct. We had the same sturdy hitch installed at Mor Ryde. I have no problem with the numbers Mor Ryde quoted. Ohio list 65 feet overall length. Ohio measures at the TPK gate for length and we are nearly 54 feet truck and 3400. I have/do drive a lot of big things and the truck/5th wheel/ tow behind setup just makes me uncomfortable I would hate to have to stop all that stuff.. Just my opinion...I do not think it is safe. Way to little brake power.
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Old 12-20-2009, 04:18 AM   #15
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18 states and the District of Columbia do NOT allow a doubble pull. Most western states except Wa and Or allow it. The biggest resistance seems to be in the east. We, meaning Sallie and I, both pull our 5er with the quads behind. Total length is right around 65ft. We do try and keep the hitch weight to under 200 lbs.
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