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10-08-2021, 05:09 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Pflugerville
Posts: 2
M.O.C. #29828
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Chucking
Hello, my husband and I are new to RV life. We just got a 2022 ford f350 with an andersen hitch. We are pulling a 2021 montana high country 335bh.
We are using the rota-flex lockout kit but the truck feels like its jerking forward and backwards quite a bit. I'm just curious to know if this is normal and if this is something yall experienced as well.
Any advice or guidance yall could provide would be greatly appreciated.
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10-08-2021, 05:35 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Milwaukie, OR
Posts: 1,571
M.O.C. #23668
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Welcome aboard! Glad you're here.
We have no chucking at all with the Andersen hitch. We also have air bags that help smooth the ride. There's always a bit of an arm-wrestling match between the truck and trailer but it can be minimized. Our pin box is a basic one so nothing to lock out. If you're experiencing movement at the hitch then perhaps somethings isn't set correctly with your lockout.
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Jeff & Sandi (and Teddy - 7lb Schnorkie)
2018 Montana HC 305RL / HW Progressive EMS
2015 RAM 3500 Laramie Longhorn Crew Cab 4x4 DRW / Demco Recon Hitch on RAM Puck Ball
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10-08-2021, 06:57 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Wilsey
Posts: 18,799
M.O.C. #11455
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Welcome to the forum. We use a pullrite hitch with a Morryde pinbox (used to be standard on Montanas) and have very minimal movement. When I was the vendor coordinator at the two national rallies previous to this more people than I could believe dumped the rotoflex for the Morryde and gave chucking as a reason.
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Dick, Joyce, Diego, Picatso and Gustav
2017 3720 RL, and 2013 HC 343RL
Pullrite Hitch, IS, Disk Brakes, 3rd AC, Winegard Traveler, Bathroom door mod, Dometic 320, couch for desk swap, replaced chairs, sun screens, added awnings, etc.
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10-08-2021, 07:37 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Jun 2021
Location: Wilmar
Posts: 54
M.O.C. #29050
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Welcome
Welcome to the forum. I too presently have a Anderson UH in a Ram 3500 6’4” bed for a Montana 305rl.
I experience some chucking on rough roads but am strongly considering purchasing a B&W Hitch for my TV.
I love the ease of installing the hitch but believe the B&W might offer a more stable ride.
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10-08-2021, 07:39 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Sebring
Posts: 3,669
M.O.C. #9969
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Some may disagree, but I say "It's impossible to totally eliminate Chucking". Most chucking comes from the TV and RV hitting seams in the highway at different times, especially on Concrete highways.
The best you can do is to soften the effects of chucking, and the Mor/ryde pin does a very good job and an air ride hitch or some other form of cushioned hitch helps. With the Andersen your connection between TV and RV are pretty solid.
My opinion on chucking only.
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Michelle & Ann
2018 Chevy 3500HD High Country DRW 4X4 Crew Cab w/Duramax/Allison, Formally 2010 Montana 2955RL, Now Loaded 2016 SOB, Mor/ryde IS, Disc Brakes & Pin Box, Comfort Ride Hitch, Sailun 17.5 Tires.
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10-09-2021, 03:43 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Chiefland
Posts: 117
M.O.C. #17939
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Welcome to the forum. I have the Morryde pinbox and a B&W hitch, works well for me.
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Art and Linda
2007 F250,2000 Montana 2850 RK
2017 F350,2016 Montana 3721 RL
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10-09-2021, 05:06 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Jacksonville
Posts: 2,237
M.O.C. #25165
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I have the original Lippert Rotaflex type pin box with a B&W Companion hitch on the Ford puck system. I also put on Timbren suspension blocks to help prevent the up/down porpoising but chucking is minimal in this set up except on the worst roads.
Keeping the hitch and king pin lubricated make a big difference. I use a lube plate, but still put Lithium grease on the king pin. The hitch has urethane bushings where the plate mounts, and I also grease them as well.
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Robert & Diana McNeal
2019 Montana Legacy 3791RD 20th Anniversary Edition
2014 F350 4x4 6.7L SRW
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10-09-2021, 05:57 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Catoosa
Posts: 787
M.O.C. #18384
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mhs4771
Some may disagree, but I say "It's impossible to totally eliminate Chucking". Most chucking comes from the TV and RV hitting seams in the highway at different times, especially on Concrete highways.
The best you can do is to soften the effects of chucking, and the Mor/ryde pin does a very good job and an air ride hitch or some other form of cushioned hitch helps. With the Andersen your connection between TV and RV are pretty solid.
My opinion on chucking only.
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I think mhs4771 hit the nail right on the head. Give yourself some time to get used to it and pay attention to what kind of roads it happens on. A pin box change may help, but won’t eliminate it.
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2015 3100RL legacy...2005 Ford F-250 CC SB. Tows like a charm! 4/19 Updated to 2017 Chevy 3500 CC SB SRW -hope it tows as well as my F 250 did!
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10-09-2021, 07:24 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Florence
Posts: 963
M.O.C. #20472
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I too had some slop/chucking going on, I replace my Curt to a B&W, rebuilt my morryde pin head and re-torque every bolt/nut from the pin head forward. I can honestly say I don’t get that loose chucking anymore. Every time before we hook up I check every bolt from the axles to the bolts that hold down my hitch in the bed of the truck, surprisingly there is always 1 that my be loose on the pin head assembly. Your truck and 5th should feel like it’s as one unit going down the road, makes it a much more pleasurable ride.
Anderson is a great hitch and I’m sure you will work out the bugs to get that ride your looking for.
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2018 Ram 3500 MegaCab 4x4 Aisin, 4:10 Gears
Titan 50 Gal Tank, Air Lift Wireless Bags
2017 3160 RL
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10-09-2021, 08:50 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Folsom, California
Posts: 575
M.O.C. #21903
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We had major chucking. After a cross country trip, our backs were hurting. Wife has back issues.
Upon arrival to the east coast, installed a Reese Fifth Airborne pin box. It eliminated all of the chucking. Used to grit my teeth everytime we went over a bridge transition. Now I still grit my teeth, but after we're over it, I wonder why?
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'05 F250 6.0 Bullet Proofed - Sold
'17 F350 6.7 Lariet
'02 Montana 3280RL Upgraded a bunch.
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10-09-2021, 09:21 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Centerville
Posts: 1,359
M.O.C. #9051
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rfirth
Hello, my husband and I are new to RV life. We just got a 2022 ford f350 with an andersen hitch. We are pulling a 2021 montana high country 335bh.
We are using the rota-flex lockout kit but the truck feels like its jerking forward and backwards quite a bit. I'm just curious to know if this is normal and if this is something yall experienced as well.
Any advice or guidance yall could provide would be greatly appreciated.
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I have towed two different fifth wheels with the Andersen . One with the MorRyde , and one one with a standard pin box, neither had any chucking. Plus both of those fifth wheels with a Reese manual sliding hitch ,same results no chucking. IMO the Andersen has nothing to do with your chucking. It's a combination of tow vehicle ,and fifth wheel ,some do ,some don't . Again IMO a MorRyde pin box would be your best bet on eliminating a lot of the chucking .
To add ,one of those fifth wheels was also towed with two different trucks , that fifth wheel was the one with the MorRyde ,and also towed with the two different hitches Andersen ,and Reese slider , again no chucking .
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10-09-2021, 09:28 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Centerville
Posts: 1,359
M.O.C. #9051
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Salineriverman
Welcome to the forum. I too presently have a Anderson UH in a Ram 3500 6’4” bed for a Montana 305rl.
I experience some chucking on rough roads but am strongly considering purchasing a B&W Hitch for my TV.
I love the ease of installing the hitch but believe the B&W might offer a more stable ride.
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Having the same truck Ram 3500 short bed , I disagree with the Andersen being the problem. I can't see where the B&W would make for a more stable ride . That Andersen is pretty solid, unless you are getting some back ,and forth movement out of the Andersen .
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10-09-2021, 11:08 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Hixson
Posts: 3,436
M.O.C. #11397
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Before you throw $ at it maybe you should calculate your pin weight. Not enough pin weight will cause chucking. May just be an issue of weight distribution. Just the opinion of a retired trucker. You SHOULD ideally have 19-24% pin weight.
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2018.5 Montana 3791RD
Full Timers 9/1/2010 through 1/16/2020.
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10-09-2021, 11:29 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2020
Location: UPLAND
Posts: 1,284
M.O.C. #26190
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Zero chucking from our Anderson. Maybe start with the factory Ford setup and make sure that's tight, and work your way up and back to the trailer. Does the trailer sit level on the truck?
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2019 Keystone Montana 3560RL, 2020 Chevy 2500 HD, Firestone airbags, Air Lift wireless compressor, Curt gooseneck, 20K Reese Goosebox, TST-507, USMC combat vet & retired LEO. Robert, Anika, Breanna, Dylan (daughter-in-law Stephanie). & our Great Pyrenees Layla
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10-09-2021, 04:04 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Milwaukie, OR
Posts: 1,571
M.O.C. #23668
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Does it help to define terms?
When I think of chucking I think of slop/movement within the hitch itself...the Andersen doesn't have any of that. However, if the hitch isn't properly torqued to the bed then there could be movement and noise there.
I think I hear the OP taling about porpoising, mentioned earlier, where the truck and trailer battle for equalibrium when going over various bumps. That's not a hitch issue but a spring, air bag, timbren kind of thing. That can be minimized though not totally eliminated.
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Jeff & Sandi (and Teddy - 7lb Schnorkie)
2018 Montana HC 305RL / HW Progressive EMS
2015 RAM 3500 Laramie Longhorn Crew Cab 4x4 DRW / Demco Recon Hitch on RAM Puck Ball
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10-11-2021, 10:40 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 60
M.O.C. #29808
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Absolutely have no idea what "chucking" is but if I were to guess, would it be the feeling of being chucked back and forth from the trailer pulling/pushing when you hit bumps? I have 5th wheel and no truck yet but have an Andersen hitch and was told the flex in the box could cause something sounding like chucking. Was told this add-on would take the flex out of the box.?? https://andersenhitches.com/collecti...ex-lockout-kit. I got one, now just need a truck.
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Greg & Linda
2021 41' Montana 3762BP, 2022 RAM 3500 Dually 420HP 1075 FPT and 17 SPEAKERS!!!
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10-12-2021, 02:13 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: Glendale
Posts: 202
M.O.C. #27658
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Chucking
I pull a 2020 Keystone Montana 3121RL with a 2019 F-350 diesel, 4x4, short bed and use a B&W 18K Patriot slider and love it. No more chucking!!
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Larry & Marilyn Gubbels
2019 F-350 Diesel 4X4, Short Bed, BW 18K slider,
closely followed by a 2020 Montana 3121RL
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10-13-2021, 01:11 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Jul 2021
Location: Goodrich
Posts: 14
M.O.C. #29247
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FYI,
I was looking at the Anderson hitch but when I contacted Keystone I said I own a 2021 Montana Model: 3813MS. Keystone said using the Anderson hitch could VOID about my frame warranty. Keystone does not recommend the Anderson hitch.
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10-13-2021, 02:21 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Gassville
Posts: 59
M.O.C. #22218
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2018 361RL and 2011 Dodge dually. We switched to the Anderson (steel, 4 point frame, not the gooseneck, but same concept). You will never fully eliminate chucking and porpusing, but this combination comes pretty darn close. I've pulled with a lot of hitches and this is by far my favorite.
As mentioned above, double check all of your bolts and then take a look at the weight distribution.
Also look at how the fiver sits when you are hooked up and on a flat surface. You should be close to level. If the front end is to high, it will bounce you down the road no matter what hitch you have.
Be sure the red coupling box is mounted the right direction and torqued properly. If the box is to the front, it creates a much longer leverage arm and a rougher ride. On the non-gooseneck version you can turn the hitch 180 and put the weight in-front or behind the axle...makes a huge difference.
Another thing to test, is to use you cruise control. You might not notice a little variation in your speed when it's just the truck, but through the trailer behind it and a little rocking in your foot can translate to a lot of rocking in your rig.
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2018 Montana High Country 331RL,
2011 Dodge Ram 3500 dually, Firestone air bags, Anderson Ultimate Hitch
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10-13-2021, 02:37 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Missoula
Posts: 139
M.O.C. #26938
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We installed the B&W rollover ball hitch and a Reese Goose Box. We also installed airbags on the TV. We get a very smooth ride with this combination and don't get any chucking.
Nice part of the B&W hitch, is there is no heavy attachments to move in and out of the bed. Have full use of the bed when not towing. Best of all worlds.
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Jack & Tanya Wenger
Missoula, MT
2006 Montana 2980RL
2004 Chev 2500 HD
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