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11-27-2013, 10:45 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Broken Arrow
Posts: 393
M.O.C. #11127
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tow vehicle
anybody pulling a 3625 re. what is your tow vehicle and how does it handle the montana
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11-27-2013, 12:13 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 7,550
M.O.C. #2283
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In September I went on a 7200 mile trip. I checked all the camp grounds I was in. I found more large fivers being pulled by single wheel trucks by far than DRW trucks. We stayed in Grisly RV park in West Yellowstone and found 2 large fivers, 3425 size being pulled by DWT. Not saying they meet all weight requirements but those folks didn't seem to be having any trouble.
Lynwood
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11-27-2013, 01:20 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Redmond
Posts: 274
M.O.C. #12815
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We pull our 3625 Big Sky with a 3500HD srw. While I still need to weigh the trailer (truck has been weighed at the transfer station after a yard waste run) We have had no problems with going over mountain passes.
Stability is just fine. But I have never had a dually.
We get about 12 to 13 mpg while in towmode with the exhaust brake on.
I would recommend you get something bigger than a 2500. If you can find one or afford it get a dually and remove your doubt.
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11-27-2013, 06:19 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Redding
Posts: 1,421
M.O.C. #12339
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I have owned both SW and DW and prefer the Dually. I am not the "weight police" but frankly, I see people towing "40 ft loaded" toyhaulers with 2500s all day long. They swear it's safe, I keep my distance. For the unit you posted SW should be fine. I will always go with the Dually and overkill, it's my preference.
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11-27-2013, 06:58 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Bridgewater
Posts: 1,196
M.O.C. #13166
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by Artemus Gordon
I have owned both SW and DW and prefer the Dually. I am not the "weight police" but frankly, I see people towing "40 ft loaded" toyhaulers with 2500s all day long. They swear it's safe, I keep my distance. For the unit you posted SW should be fine. I will always go with the Dually and overkill, it's my preference.
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Not much of a X2 guy, but, X2
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11-28-2013, 01:55 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Lake Gaston
Posts: 8,773
M.O.C. #12156
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I pulled all three of our Montana fivers with a SRW F350 until 2011 when we got our first F350 dually. Will never go back to a SRW again.
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2002 3655 FL, 2005 3650RK
2010 3665RE, 2015 3910FB
F350 crew cab dually 6.7
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11-28-2013, 02:14 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Depends on temps
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M.O.C. #13157
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Hello Okie,
There is a discussion going on right now in the Towing section about this issue. Might want to look there. Also look at Mike's post above mine.
I vote with Artemus. X3
Jim
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11-28-2013, 03:27 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Fayetteville
Posts: 4,200
M.O.C. #11401
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Dually
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11-28-2013, 03:59 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Arroyo City
Posts: 3,110
M.O.C. #13395
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I think the biggest advantage to dual rear wheels is the wider stance. It easy to hook up if you line back fenders up with the Montana, puts you dead center on pin
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11-28-2013, 04:03 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Wilsey
Posts: 18,799
M.O.C. #11455
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Our truck does just fine, but if I had it to do over we'd buy a dually. Kansas, Oklahoma and New Mexico particularly can have some really high wind gusts. The extra stability would be nice.
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11-28-2013, 05:26 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: San Antonio
Posts: 1,298
M.O.C. #5165
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That is a tough question to answer. Yes, for me the weights are the guiding factor--at least that is where I go first. Then how comfortable are you with the trucks ability to tow, stop, etc. Also after you unhook, how will the truck fill your needs? I have a F250 2012 and I fulfilled all my requirements--and I mainly travel out west--Any state west of Texas. How did the F250 do this past year in Tx,NM,CO, AZ, and UT--great. The newer trucks have towing and load capabilities that cannot be met by trucks that are 3 or more years older. You really have to study the specs and WEIGH the truck and the Monty.
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11-28-2013, 05:46 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Sebring
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M.O.C. #9969
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My vote for the Dually also.
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11-28-2013, 09:13 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Lake Gaston
Posts: 8,773
M.O.C. #12156
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2011 F350 crew cab 4X4. Per Ford Specs. SRW 14.4K, DRW 21.5K. That is the bottom line.
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2002 3655 FL, 2005 3650RK
2010 3665RE, 2015 3910FB
F350 crew cab dually 6.7
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11-29-2013, 03:57 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Hudson
Posts: 168
M.O.C. #13711
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by 1retired06
2011 F350 crew cab 4X4. Per Ford Specs. SRW 14.4K, DRW 21.5K. That is the bottom line.
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1retired06,
Are those numbers quoted for GCWR? Or are they the maximum trailer weight?
Just a litter curious as the GM product GCWR for the year 2011 to present are 24500 for 2500/3500 extended SWR and 30500 for DWR.
Both with diesel engine, if gas much, much lower.
Jay
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2012 Silverado 3500 Ext. Cab, Long box, Duramax SRW
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11-29-2013, 04:27 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Lake Gaston
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M.O.C. #12156
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by jhudson
Quote:
quote:Originally posted by 1retired06
2011 F350 crew cab 4X4. Per Ford Specs. SRW 14.4K, DRW 21.5K. That is the bottom line.
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1retired06,
Are those numbers quoted for GCWR? Or are they the maximum trailer weight?
Just a litter curious as the GM product GCWR for the year 2011 to present are 24500 for 2500/3500 extended SWR and 30500 for DWR.
Both with diesel engine, if gas much, much lower.
Jay
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Jay, no. For the specific models I cited above, Ford Specs show a GCWR of 23,500 for the SRW and 30,000 for the dually. For the F250, the same for both the 3.73 or 4.30 differentials. Dually only comes with the 3.73. All info was for the 6.7. Numbers drop if a gasser.
Mike
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2002 3655 FL, 2005 3650RK
2010 3665RE, 2015 3910FB
F350 crew cab dually 6.7
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11-29-2013, 01:08 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Elkhart Lake
Posts: 141
M.O.C. #12256
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If you want a dedicated truck for pulling your 5th and aren't concerned about parking, decrease in gas mileage, extra overall cost compared to a SRW, then the dually seems like the great match. We have a SRW F350 that pulls our 3625 with ease, but I also use my truck for a number of other things and am not interested in adding width for my other uses. Like so many things, it's an individual choice and if you exercise reasonable judgement in weight and speed, you can enjoy many safe trips.
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11-30-2013, 02:40 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Fort Myers
Posts: 5,933
M.O.C. #4282
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by woodman
If you want a dedicated truck for pulling your 5th and aren't concerned about parking, decrease in gas mileage, extra overall cost compared to a SRW, then the dually seems like the great match. We have a SRW F350 that pulls our 3625 with ease, but I also use my truck for a number of other things and am not interested in adding width for my other uses. Like so many things, it's an individual choice and if you exercise reasonable judgement in weight and speed, you can enjoy many safe trips.
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2Xs on this.
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11-30-2013, 02:50 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Willow Spring, NC
Posts: 992
M.O.C. #13909
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For me, the only purpose for this truck is to pull my Monty, so I wanted to get the right vehicle. The math said Dually, so that's what I got. I know that if I get stopped or randomly checked entering an area or country where they hold you to GVCW, etc, I'll be legal.
That being said, I hope I will start using the TV for my other vehicle needs so I can sell my other car and save a little money. My wife has a small SUV we can use for 99% of our local travel. So if I have to go to the golf course (0.2 miles) or the grocery store (1 mile) when she is using her car, I can use the dually. Might have to park way out from the crowd, but that's okay, I need the exercise.
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2014 Montana 3402RL Level UP, Sailun S637's, TST 507, 500W solar
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11-30-2013, 09:59 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Hudson
Posts: 168
M.O.C. #13711
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by dsprik
Quote:
quote:Originally posted by woodman
If you want a dedicated truck for pulling your 5th and aren't concerned about parking, decrease in gas mileage, extra overall cost compared to a SRW, then the dually seems like the great match. We have a SRW F350 that pulls our 3625 with ease, but I also use my truck for a number of other things and am not interested in adding width for my other uses. Like so many things, it's an individual choice and if you exercise reasonable judgement in weight and speed, you can enjoy many safe trips.
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X3 I agree with this. Choose the truck that best fills your needs. The 3500 SWR does it for me.
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2012 Silverado 3500 Ext. Cab, Long box, Duramax SRW
Trailersaver BD3 hitch
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11-30-2013, 12:54 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Depends on temps
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M.O.C. #13157
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by jhudson
Quote:
quote:Originally posted by dsprik
Quote:
quote:Originally posted by woodman
If you want a dedicated truck for pulling your 5th and aren't concerned about parking, decrease in gas mileage, extra overall cost compared to a SRW, then the dually seems like the great match. We have a SRW F350 that pulls our 3625 with ease, but I also use my truck for a number of other things and am not interested in adding width for my other uses. Like so many things, it's an individual choice and if you exercise reasonable judgement in weight and speed, you can enjoy many safe trips.
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2Xs on this.
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X3 I agree with this. Choose the truck that best fills your needs.
The 3500 SWR does it for me.
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What is the GAWR of the axles on your SRW truck?
What is the GVWR of your truck?
What is the actual weight of the truck ready to tow? Per axle?
Thanks Jim
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