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10-21-2013, 06:30 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Littleton
Posts: 183
M.O.C. #9998
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Pickup Bed Damage Avoidance
How many of you have had a pinbox drop out of your hitch and had box damage avoided by a safety catch mechanism? I haven't seen this topic on here in quite a while and believe it needs to be brought up again for those new to hauling these valuable 5th wheels around the country. I have seen at least five pickups in the last two years who found out about this the hard way (for one it had already happened to him twice, OUCH ). A few endorsements might convince some of those who haven't considered a safety catch mechanism yet!!!
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2010 Mountaineer 285 RLD, 330 watts solar, 600 watts sine inverter, 3 type 31 agm batteries, Traveler antenna
2010 Dodge Ram 3500 SRW, 18k Reese slider, Honda 2000i, Firestone airbags
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10-21-2013, 07:35 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Wheatland
Posts: 675
M.O.C. #10623
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10-21-2013, 07:47 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Redding
Posts: 1,421
M.O.C. #12339
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Can give you the number $4500.00. That's what my damage cost. My neighbor did same thing. His was $4575.00. Yes that's a good range! Lol
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10-22-2013, 02:42 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Grain valley
Posts: 356
M.O.C. #5098
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I have a Blue Ox Bedsaver that I consider cheap insurance for my occasional old guy CRS.
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10-22-2013, 02:51 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: K.C.
Posts: 11,731
M.O.C. #5980
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Insurance, the devices are great insurance. I had the Blue Ox (For sale) and took it off put Butch's device on, much lighter and takes up way less space.
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10-22-2013, 04:21 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Wilsey
Posts: 18,799
M.O.C. #11455
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We put the Butch's on after trying to help a friend of my sister and having his SOB drop on my rails. It was a combination of my trusting him when he told me it was chocked and the landing gear was locked, his not knowing how to do it and my total stupidity of not checking everything. Pulled the pin and the trailer rolled back and dropped onto my bed rails. Now here's where there is something to be said for Keystone. It was an older Jayco and the damage was to the underside of his cap and my rails only had white paint embedded for a year or so. I would never be that lucky again so we did what we needed to do since I've been known to do dumb things from time to time.
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Dick, Joyce, Diego, Picatso and Gustav
2017 3720 RL, and 2013 HC 343RL
Pullrite Hitch, IS, Disk Brakes, 3rd AC, Winegard Traveler, Bathroom door mod, Dometic 320, couch for desk swap, replaced chairs, sun screens, added awnings, etc.
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10-22-2013, 04:40 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Victor
Posts: 940
M.O.C. #1709
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Have had Butch's for a couple years now and love it
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10-22-2013, 05:10 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Omaha
Posts: 2,079
M.O.C. #2780
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Blue OX saved us!!! had it installed after damage done
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Paul and Jan Kelpe
2014 Big Sky 3150RL
2015 GMC Denali, Duramax/Allison
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10-22-2013, 05:11 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Lake Havasu City AZ.
Posts: 1,811
M.O.C. #10552
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I have the Blue Ox on my hitch. Had to move it one time in a hurry. While hooking up a friend stoped by.. Well we all know what happened got talking and did not hook up correctly or check as I should have. When I pulled out the rig just slid back into the Blue Ox and not on the bed reals. What I like about the Blue Ox is it is idiot proof nothing to do it just works.
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Wayne and Ann Moore
2015 Ford F-350 King Ranch
Firestone air bags, bed saver.
Add 40 GAL tank in bed.
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10-22-2013, 06:37 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Rock Island
Posts: 1,074
M.O.C. #10457
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Have the Butches attached and like the idea of a double safety, but do have to remember to close bar for the extra protection. I especially like the cost of the Butches compared to other bed savers.
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10-22-2013, 11:40 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Bella Vista
Posts: 472
M.O.C. #12223
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I have Butch also. Easy to install and great peace of mind.
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10-23-2013, 05:32 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Mesa az
Posts: 2,988
M.O.C. #5651
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Apparently I was very lucky. I started to pull out and the pin unhitched in the campsite. The pin box on the trailer landed on the tail gate. I had a rubber coating on it and all that happened was 2 groves sort of cut into the rubber. No dents or anything.
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Tom and Gail
2013 Mountaineer 362
2012 Silverado 2500
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10-25-2013, 08:54 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Redding
Posts: 1,421
M.O.C. #12339
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We have adjusted our Proceedure ! We do a pull test with front landing gear "one inch" off the ground. We back up and move forward each time we hook up!
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10-25-2013, 09:14 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Omaha
Posts: 6,771
M.O.C. #7560
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Blue Ox on our hitch! Since it's made here in Nebraska, I decided to keep the money in State to help out the locals. As OZZ said it does take up a little more space but it does the job and I store my blocks and rinse out hose under the hitch and the Blue OX . Have "test dropped" the Monte several times just to make sure it works well. Yes, I said "test drops" and not accidently. Have been lucky on that respect! Have had the unit attached to the hitch for two trucks now and no problems! I do the same as Michael and "test tug" the unit both forward and back with the wheels chocked(this puts a little pressure on the hitch and pin to make sure it's holding) before heading down the road each time with the landing gear up only about 1/2 to 1 inch above the blocks. Don't know how the newer unit do it with the six point level-up system but it works for me on my old rig!
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10-28-2013, 02:44 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Oceanside
Posts: 534
M.O.C. #13378
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by Bruce Lenhardt
I have a Blue Ox Bedsaver that I consider cheap insurance for my occasional old guy CRS.
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X2 - Big Time
Saved me once already!
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10-28-2013, 03:07 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: South Shore
Posts: 6,009
M.O.C. #7110
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I had one incident that made me start thinking. Dropped the camper on the bed of the truck but was fortunate at the time the landing gear was extended enough that I didn’t receive any repairable damage to either the truck or the camper. I purchased a bed saver after that. I haven’t actually needed it since but the peace of mind and insurance of “what if” makes it worth having IMHO. I even feel better when I’m just towing down the road knowing that it’s back there.
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2011 GMC 4X4 dually CC, 6.6 Duramax with Allison Transmission. Formally 2001 Montana,2007 3400RL Montana, presently 2018 3401RS Alpine.
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10-30-2013, 02:02 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Kernersville
Posts: 86
M.O.C. #13857
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I have a Pull Rite auto latch hitch. Doesn't that prevent this from happening? It will NOT latch unless you are correctly seated around the pin.
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10-30-2013, 02:14 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Wilsey
Posts: 18,799
M.O.C. #11455
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by farmall130
I have a Pull Rite auto latch hitch. Doesn't that prevent this from happening? It will NOT latch unless you are correctly seated around the pin.
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Not familiar with that hitch, but can it be locked so a trucker (****** off because you had to park in a truck spot to fit in a TA, Love's or a Pilot to eat lunch) can't pull the release and leave you to drive off? If not, you might want to consider one. I check mine everytime before I drive off and the emergency brake also but that doesn't mean I don't get in a hurry once in a while and forget to.
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Dick, Joyce, Diego, Picatso and Gustav
2017 3720 RL, and 2013 HC 343RL
Pullrite Hitch, IS, Disk Brakes, 3rd AC, Winegard Traveler, Bathroom door mod, Dometic 320, couch for desk swap, replaced chairs, sun screens, added awnings, etc.
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10-31-2013, 12:42 AM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Kernersville
Posts: 86
M.O.C. #13857
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by DQDick
Quote:
quote:Originally posted by farmall130
I have a Pull Rite auto latch hitch. Doesn't that prevent this from happening? It will NOT latch unless you are correctly seated around the pin.
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Not familiar with that hitch, but can it be locked so a trucker (****** off because you had to park in a truck spot to fit in a TA, Love's or a Pilot to eat lunch) can't pull the release and leave you to drive off? If not, you might want to consider one. I check mine everytime before I drive off and the emergency brake also but that doesn't mean I don't get in a hurry once in a while and forget to.
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I see what you mean. I don't think it would release under pressure, but I think I'll check into the safety latch...
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11-01-2013, 04:28 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Littleton
Posts: 183
M.O.C. #9998
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So far I have notice people have mentioned Butches and BlueOx as making devices to keep your pinbox from damaging the bed of your pickup. Are there any other products out there that do the job as effectively (both), and affordably (Butches)? If you know of any or have one, please post. Thanks
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2010 Mountaineer 285 RLD, 330 watts solar, 600 watts sine inverter, 3 type 31 agm batteries, Traveler antenna
2010 Dodge Ram 3500 SRW, 18k Reese slider, Honda 2000i, Firestone airbags
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