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Old 04-11-2020, 04:14 PM   #1
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Goose box 5er change

Has any one changed there king pin to a goose neck have read a lot of advantages in changing it over
 
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Old 04-11-2020, 05:39 PM   #2
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I went with the Andersen Ultimate. Love it.
Advantages:
1) no modification to the trailer.
2) weight-at least 100 lbs less than conventional hitch.
3) cost less than $850.
4) super easy install/remote. My truck isn’t always just a TV.
5) no chucking while towing.
Bonus- my teenage granddaughter often installs it for me.

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Old 04-11-2020, 07:17 PM   #3
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This topic has came up many times here. A conventional long goose neck is not recommended. The frame on these campers aren’t strong enough to support the additional torque that long hitch adds to an already marginal front frame.
I think it will void your frame warranty.
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Old 04-11-2020, 07:49 PM   #4
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LCI only allows the use of the Reese Goose Goose Box. I was looking into it and contacted LCI to check on any potential warranty issues and they said it was okay to use this box.
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Old 04-12-2020, 07:01 AM   #5
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I put a goose box on mine very satisfied with the results
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Old 04-12-2020, 11:29 AM   #6
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We have the Reese Goosebox. We had the Anderson Ranch Hand on our previous smaller 5er and it worked ok, but the Goosebox has 2 shocks and an air bag. What a ride improvement!! 20K rating too. I have a fold down ball in the bed of the truck, so the bed is open when not towing.
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Old 04-13-2020, 09:27 AM   #7
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That’s what I heard the hitch is $1200. The goosebox is $1200. So it’s a wash I have the OEM pucks and the hitch ball is $120.00 is it easy to hook up and drop never did a gooseneck
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Old 04-13-2020, 09:32 AM   #8
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LCI only allows the use of the Reese Goose Goose Box. I was looking into it and contacted LCI to check on any potential warranty issues and they said it was okay to use this box.
Did you do the goosebox ???
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Old 04-13-2020, 09:40 AM   #9
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Not yet. I need to sell my current hitch and going to use the money to purchase the goosebox. From what I have read, they get good reviews. Some bad ones, but that is with everything.
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Old 04-13-2020, 04:08 PM   #10
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I may do the swap. I had one on my previous trailer (16k model) and my only complaints were the air bag leak down after a few days and the amount you have to lift the trailer to clear the ball. I don't see this being a problem with the hydraulic jacks. They have a lot of travel. With electrical, it sucked since the electric jacks only had about 7-8" of travel. If you were on an uneven site front-to-back, you couldn't easily get it unhitched and leveled again. Between the 3-4" of lift required to clear the ball and the 2-3" of distance to unload the truck springs, it was a pain.

I also looked at the Gen-Y hitch GH-8045 & GH-8055. They said they haven't got through all the testing with LCI. They cost more than the Goosebox, but eliminates the air bag out of the equation.

https://www.etrailer.com/Gooseneck-a...5-GH-8045.html


The 8055 has a higher GVWR limit & pin weight than the 8045 (18k)
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I may do the swap. I had one on my previous trailer (16k model) and my only complaints were the air bag leak down after a few days and the amount you have to lift the trailer to clear the ball. I don't see this being a problem with the hydraulic jacks. They have a lot of travel. With electrical, it sucked since the electric jacks only had about 7-8" of travel. If you were on an uneven site front-to-back, you couldn't easily get it unhitched and leveled again. Between the 3-4" of lift required to clear the ball and the 2-3" of distance to unload the truck springs, it was a pain.

I also looked at the Gen-Y hitch GH-8045 & GH-8055. They said they haven't got through all the testing with LCI. They cost more than the Goosebox, but eliminates the air bag out of the equation.

https://www.etrailer.com/Gooseneck-a...5-GH-8045.html


The 8055 has a higher GVWR limit & pin weight than the 8045 (18k)
They changed the valving mine doesnít leak down after weeks of sitting
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Old 04-19-2020, 01:22 PM   #12
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I have the Reese goose box as well. Reduced chucking a lot. It’s probably not recommended, but I took the pressure relief valve off of the air bag and replaced it with a plug. No more air leaks.
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Old 04-19-2020, 01:34 PM   #13
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I have the Reese goose box 20K and love it. It did reduce chucking and now no big heavy hitch taking up space in the truck bed
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Have the Anderson hitch. LOVE IT. Im 110 lbs female and can take it out of truck bed myself. Tows great. No problems
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Old 04-19-2020, 02:51 PM   #15
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I had a Goosebox for about 9 months. Wish I had thought of replacing the airbag relief valve with a plug as I had to air the bag back up after almost every Tow on our nation's rough roads - and that was VERY slow to do. That inconvenience was coupled with the suggestion to grease the coupler Zerk before every Tow. Really? Anyhow, a VERY bad Pothole in West Texas ended up bending the moving part of the Goosebox and cracking my front Pinbox Frame Steel Tube.
Lippert would not even replace the Goosebox as it "wasn't their fault...." so what good is the 1 yr Warranty??
Went back to the Star Performance glider adapter. Very happy with it!
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Have the 20k goose box and love it - will never go back. Haven’t had any problems with air leakage to date. Fabulous ride and never have to move more than a hitch ball while on trips or anytime for that matter. Easy install for the DIY’er too.

Was recommended to me by a satisfied friend. What finally sold me was as previously mentioned, at the time, it was the only gooseneck style adapter approved by LCI and would not void any warranties. Not sure if that’s still true, but a good product in my experience.
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Old 04-19-2020, 04:10 PM   #17
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Goose neck

We bought our 3791RD a year ago. We had Camping world install the Anderson ultimate goose neck too. We love it and it had just been authorized by Keystone in 2019 for installation.
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Old 04-19-2020, 04:32 PM   #18
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This topic has came up many times here. A conventional long goose neck is not recommended. The frame on these campers aren’t strong enough to support the additional torque that long hitch adds to an already marginal front frame.
I think it will void your frame warranty.
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Unless something has changed in writing from Montana, goose necks are a no no.
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Old 04-19-2020, 04:50 PM   #19
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Agree.

Unless something has changed in writing from Montana, goose necks are a no no.
At last years rally it was noted that the AUH was on the Approved Component list
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In April 2019, Camping World had just received a letter from Keystone that stated they are now allowing the Anderson Ultimate.
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