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10-18-2022, 09:04 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2022
Location: Shingle Springs
Posts: 2,233
M.O.C. #30417
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Suspension upgrade
I know it's been talked about a lot but I wanted a fresh perspective on the subject. I'm considering upgrading the Monty's suspension (Cost effectively) I have limited funds to make this upgrade so I wont be replacing both axles and upgrading to disc brakes as much as I'd like to. Thanks for your input.
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Tony & Donna
2022 Montana HC, 295RL, Solar Flex 400, Onan 3600 LPG, 2K inverter, 200AH Lithium. 2020 GMC Denali 2500 6.6 Duramax, Demco 21K Auto Slide
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10-18-2022, 11:56 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Folsom, California
Posts: 552
M.O.C. #21903
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Minimum upgrade: wet bolt set with heavy duty shackles. Then ez flex equalizers. Some E-Z Flex kits come with wet bolts and HD shackles.
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'05 F250 6.0 Bullet Proofed - Sold
'17 F350 6.7 Lariet
'02 Montana 3280RL Upgraded a bunch.
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10-18-2022, 03:41 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: POINTBLANK
Posts: 1,888
M.O.C. #19944
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Disc brakes can be put on existing axles.
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RAM 22' DRW 3500 Crew LB 40 gal reserve tank / RETRAX Bed Cover / 2020 373RD HC / IS / MOPEKA Tank Monitor / Furrion Side&Rear Cameras
Slide Toppers / EMS-HW50C / Sailun 85's
3rd AC / Dometic 320
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10-18-2022, 07:06 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2022
Location: Shingle Springs
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M.O.C. #30417
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Not doing brake upgrade just now, only the suspension. I have road armor with wet bolts. Looking for suggestions.
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Tony & Donna
2022 Montana HC, 295RL, Solar Flex 400, Onan 3600 LPG, 2K inverter, 200AH Lithium. 2020 GMC Denali 2500 6.6 Duramax, Demco 21K Auto Slide
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10-18-2022, 07:22 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Box Elder
Posts: 4,701
M.O.C. #12947
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Pretty much the only real upgrade from what you have is the IS (Independent Suspension). Not sure what pin box you have, but the MorRyde rubber pin box might be a good upgrade. https://www.morryde.com/products/rubber-pin-box/
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Bob & Becky
2012 3402RL
2012 Chevy 2500HD D/A CC 4WD
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10-18-2022, 07:47 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Mar 2022
Location: LYNDEN
Posts: 286
M.O.C. #30751
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Originally Posted by rohrmann
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Second the MORryde rubber pin box. Very pleased with mine.
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2003 Holiday Rambler Navigator 43PKD 500HP 11L Cummins ISM
2005 Keystone Montana 2955RL (sold)
1999 F350 SC (sold)
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10-18-2022, 08:25 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Frostbite Falls
Posts: 434
M.O.C. #26015
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10-19-2022, 05:08 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Jacksonville
Posts: 2,140
M.O.C. #25165
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Foldbak
Not doing brake upgrade just now, only the suspension. I have road armor with wet bolts. Looking for suggestions.
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The Road Armor suspension is already about as good as you can get before going with IS. What problems are you trying to correct with an upgrade?
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2019 Montana Legacy 3791RD 20th Anniversary Edition
2014 F350 4x4 6.7L SRW
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10-19-2022, 06:00 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Austin
Posts: 2,419
M.O.C. #21044
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Would Morryde X-Factor be considered an upgrade?
Based on the little bit of research i have done it would help spring brackets last longer in addition to the tight turn strength...right?
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MikenDebbie Aggie ‘77 in the sticks near Austin TX
2019 Chevy 3500 High Country DRW
2018 Montana 3921FB
Aussie Gus + Texas Heeler Jimmy
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10-19-2022, 06:07 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Jacksonville
Posts: 2,140
M.O.C. #25165
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Actually, I have considered 3 of them on my rig. I haven't pulled that trigger yet, but based on what I have heard and read, they do help support the hangers and shackles.
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Robert & Diana McNeal
2019 Montana Legacy 3791RD 20th Anniversary Edition
2014 F350 4x4 6.7L SRW
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10-19-2022, 06:38 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Western NY
Posts: 490
M.O.C. #28430
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I have the X factors and think they are a nice addition but I thought that the 22’s (original poster) had the spring hanger upgrade (gusset inserts) that beef them up. May not need them and may not be able to attach the top bracket with the gusset in the way, not sure.
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Mark & Karen
2021 3121rl - slide toppers, cottage white, TST 507 TPMS, X-Factors, disc brakes
2021 F-350, 6.7L, SRW CC LB - B&W Companion, Bakflip cover
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10-19-2022, 06:42 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Livermore
Posts: 5,146
M.O.C. #1920
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Tony, not sure what you are wanting to accomplish - better ride, more robust? I know you aren’t wanting to go IS and disc brakes, but you should put that in the back of your mind for the future. Some have installed Sumo springs. I have no experience with that, but there have been good results reported. I broke springs twice on our 2010 Big Sky, once in Alaska (hence the IS). Thicker springs and X-Factor may make your suspension more robust. My personal opinion is that the MorRyde pin box will reduce feel in the cab but not what the Montana experiences. Also, my personal opinion is the MorRyde suspensions similar to the Road Armor are slightly better. Your needs will vary depending on where you camp. We do a lot of mountain camping across mountain roads. The IS is significantly better for this and Alaska. Of course, places like I10 and others aren’t much better and hitting it at a higher speed.
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2021Montana 3230CK Super Solar Legacy Package
2021 Ram 3500 Laramie Longhorn, BIM Charging
4x4, SRW, LB, Crew Cab, Pullrite 3900 Hitch
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10-19-2022, 08:34 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2022
Location: Shingle Springs
Posts: 2,233
M.O.C. #30417
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Thanks for all your input. What I'm trying to accomplish is a softer ride to prevent things from rattling apart. I'd like to reduce the rolling earthquake from a 5 to a 2. For every 100 miles that you roll something is working its way lose like a screw working its way through the linoleum, a staple coming through the roof TPO, a piece of trim, etc. I just thought a better suspension would help. certainly can't hurt. I can see a pin box helping with the back and forth motion and soften the front portion of the RV but what about from the axles back?
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Tony & Donna
2022 Montana HC, 295RL, Solar Flex 400, Onan 3600 LPG, 2K inverter, 200AH Lithium. 2020 GMC Denali 2500 6.6 Duramax, Demco 21K Auto Slide
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10-19-2022, 09:58 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Austin
Posts: 2,419
M.O.C. #21044
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I would like to know what helps strengthen the basic system to prevent or reduce the incidence of broken springs and/or hanger brackets. I am ok with my current brakes. That is my first priority.
Adding disc brakes would be second.
IS system would be last priority or until my money tree produces so fruit.
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MikenDebbie Aggie ‘77 in the sticks near Austin TX
2019 Chevy 3500 High Country DRW
2018 Montana 3921FB
Aussie Gus + Texas Heeler Jimmy
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10-19-2022, 03:26 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Western NY
Posts: 490
M.O.C. #28430
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X Factor helps with the spring hanger issues on our older than 2022 (trailers without the upgraded gussets)
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Mark & Karen
2021 3121rl - slide toppers, cottage white, TST 507 TPMS, X-Factors, disc brakes
2021 F-350, 6.7L, SRW CC LB - B&W Companion, Bakflip cover
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10-19-2022, 03:36 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: woodstock
Posts: 542
M.O.C. #8174
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Wet bolts , X factor brackets do a little at a time.
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Ed
Montana Master
Woodstock Ga
2020 3931 FB Legacy
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10-19-2022, 06:29 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2022
Location: Shingle Springs
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M.O.C. #30417
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 77cruiser
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Loved the air ride.....the price was though to swallow. It is also a fairly major mod for my old self. I'd have to pay out another grand or more for the labor I haven't done enough research to know what's out there. Thanks for your help!
I was looking at the install instruction and saw the suspension they were removing and thought that's what I'm looking for.
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Tony & Donna
2022 Montana HC, 295RL, Solar Flex 400, Onan 3600 LPG, 2K inverter, 200AH Lithium. 2020 GMC Denali 2500 6.6 Duramax, Demco 21K Auto Slide
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10-20-2022, 01:24 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: elmvale
Posts: 105
M.O.C. #22355
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Foldbak
I know it's been talked about a lot but I wanted a fresh perspective on the subject. I'm considering upgrading the Monty's suspension (Cost effectively) I have limited funds to make this upgrade so I wont be replacing both axles and upgrading to disc brakes as much as I'd like to. Thanks for your input.
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I put wet bolts and also added a set of shocks to my 374fl
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10-20-2022, 07:28 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2022
Location: Shingle Springs
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M.O.C. #30417
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vacationer
I put wet bolts and also added a set of shocks to my 374fl
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Ok that's what I'm looking for. I already have wet bolts but talk to me about the shocks please.
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Tony & Donna
2022 Montana HC, 295RL, Solar Flex 400, Onan 3600 LPG, 2K inverter, 200AH Lithium. 2020 GMC Denali 2500 6.6 Duramax, Demco 21K Auto Slide
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