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Old 03-30-2020, 07:31 PM   #1
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In the process of buying a new fifth wheel, well new to us.It has a new set of Westlake tires on it 235/85/16 Rated @ 4400 lbs @ 110 psi. Any thoughts or experience with these G rated tires running them on a fifth wheel with a 15,500 GVWR. Thanks for any info on this tire . Reputation etc .
 
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Old 03-30-2020, 07:49 PM   #2
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My experience with west lake was the 15” E rated.. total garbage. Can’t tell you about their G rated. But I would check into them more IMHO
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My experience with west lake was the 15” E rated.. total garbage. Can’t tell you about their G rated. But I would check into them more IMHO
I have checked a few reviews , can't find anything horrible with them as the G rated go. Heres the deal, I am a Sailun fan. My fifth wheel that I just sold had the Sailuns that I bought. If I could have had the chance I would have switched with the Weslakes. That was not possible.

The fifth wheel I am buying is from a friend. Too good of deal to pass up, he had it traded, and as you well know, they were not giving him anywhere close to what he could of sold it for outright. I decided to buy it from him after finding out he was selling it, and got it for the trade in value. The big problem he switched tires ,and wheels . He had just bought new wheels ,and Sailun tires. This new 2020 Bighorn he bought came with the Westlakes, and thats what went on his trade-in. reason I am asking about them. And I am in Utah , and the trailer is in Texas where he bought the new 2020 The friend full times, so it wasn't like he could just drop it off ,and go buy a new one.
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Old 03-30-2020, 09:01 PM   #4
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Well, save piece of mind - you got a deal, protect it and put new Sailuns on. See if your friend will take delivery and when you go to pick it up Discount Tire will install - I was like your friend and swapped tires on my trade, dealer was kind enough to put them on the new wheels
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I assume you are buying a new Montana since this is a Montana site. I thought Montana was only putting on Saliun or Good year tires on their tires. Interesting
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For what it is worth, sat down with my tire dealer in NC last summer, he carries or can reach out and get any brand from his distributor. When I asked him for his recommendation for G load tires for our fifth wheel, he said Sailun or G614, with no other recommended tire brand. .Congrats on the new rig!
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I recently saw a YouTube video of the 5 worst/most dangerous tire brands. West Lake was among them. It's another subjective view point but just saying for consideration.
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I assume you are buying a new Montana since this is a Montana site. I thought Montana was only putting on Saliun or Good year tires on their tires. Interesting
I have been a member of this forum for a number of years. I presently own a Montana fifth wheel, my second, but this subject is Westlake tires.
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For what it is worth, sat down with my tire dealer in NC last summer, he carries or can reach out and get any brand from his distributor. When I asked him for his recommendation for G load tires for our fifth wheel, he said Sailun or G614, with no other recommended tire brand. .Congrats on the new rig!

I am skeptical of Goodyear, since their track record on G614's are no where near that of the Sailun, my first pick ,and only pick with purchasing would be Sailun. Maybe what I should do is check in with a Heartland Forum where they are getting these fifth wheels with Westlakes .
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Current 2019 Montana arrived with Sailun tires, previous arrived with Rainier tires. I pulled that 5er from the dealer to the tire Rainiers.
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I assume you are buying a new Montana since this is a Montana site. I thought Montana was only putting on Saliun or Good year tires on their tires. Interesting
Montana High Country do not always come with Sailun - maybe Montana
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Montana High Country do not always come with Sailun - maybe Montana

Seems like these fifth wheels are all over the place on what they put on them .
As said some of the new Big Horns are coming out with the Westlake's . Found a few favorable reviews on the new G rated Westlake's.

What I found out they are being manufactured to the same standards as the G rated Sailuns .
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In the process of buying a new fifth wheel, well new to us.It has a new set of Westlake tires on it 235/85/16 Rated @ 4400 lbs @ 110 psi. Any thoughts or experience with these G rated tires running them on a fifth wheel with a 15,500 GVWR. Thanks for any info on this tire . Reputation etc .
The Westlake ST235/85R16 LRG is not a steel cased tire. However they do advertise nylon overlays for that size.

When not abused by overloading or under inflation they have above average reviews.

Anytime a larger/stiffer tire is used in place of the OE tires, suspension issues are more apt to happen. That's why most will recommend staying with the original designated size and add a load range with the replacements if available.
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The Westlake ST235/85R16 LRG is not a steel cased tire. However they do advertise nylon overlays for that size.

When not abused by overloading or under inflation they have above average reviews.

Anytime a larger/stiffer tire is used in place of the OE tires, suspension issues are more apt to happen. That's why most will recommend staying with the original designated size and add a load range with the replacements if available.
Their description is " Constructed with double steel belts and plies for a long life . Nylon tread firming belt overlays. Is this something different then a steel cased tire ?? The tire in question is the Westlake ST 235/85/16 G rated 4400 lbs @ 110 psi.

Thats the stock tire on a 2020 Big Horn 3925 MLP, 7K axles with conventional leaf spring suspension .
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Their description is " Constructed with double steel belts and plies for a long life . Nylon tread firming belt overlays. Is this something different then a steel cased tire ?? The tire in question is the Westlake ST 235/85/16 G rated 4400 lbs @ 110 psi.

Thats the stock tire on a 2020 Big Horn 3925 MLP, 7K axles with conventional leaf spring suspension .
All steel tires have steel casings, meaning the carcass is built with steel cords vice polyester cords.

Read the material information on the tire sidewall to verify it's construction.

Lionshead is the OEM provider for Westlake tires. The information on the tire sidewall should match the information on their ST tire web site.
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PSFORD99 your friend opted to go through the trouble to keep the Saliuns. Did you ever ask him why?
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PSFORD99 your friend opted to go through the trouble to keep the Saliuns. Did you ever ask him why?
It’s was pretty simple , he had just bought new wheels , and Sailuns tires , for the fifth wheel I’m buying from him wouldn’t you swap the Westlakes for the Sailuns . But yes I certainly know why , the Sailuns are a quality tire . All I’m trying to find out is if those Westlakes are any good.
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It’s was pretty simple , he had just bought new wheels , and Sailuns tires , for the fifth wheel I’m buying from him wouldn’t you swap the Westlakes for the Sailuns . But yes I certainly know why , the Sailuns are a quality tire . All I’m trying to find out is if those Westlakes are any good.
I would follow your friends advice
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I’d get the Sailun and sell the Westlake! I always want the best tires and “good” are not the best. Go cheap in another area.
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I would follow your friends advice

It appears the Westlakes are not a rival to the Sailuns . I don't need to follow my friends advice. I fully understand. He has had the same experience I have had , I had the Sailuns on my previous fifth wheel ,had there been an opportunity I would done the same as he did ,and switched tires . Unfortunately the fifth wheel was in Texas , where he was making his new purchase , and switching out the tires.

Anyway, had the fifth wheel transported to Cheyenne , Wy. from Texas, where I met the transport guy. Stayed overnight in it, then proceeded back home it was quick 2 day trip ,and nearly 1000 miles round trip.

The fifth wheel towed great, the previous owner ( my friend ) had upgraded the suspension to Comfort Ride by Roadmaster , and had disc brakes installed. . Had no idea how much better disc brakes were on a fifth wheel, what a smooth effect braking that fifth wheel had. As far as how it rode, it was much better then my previous Montana with the MorRyde suspension , and pin box. This one had just the conventional pin box ,and still towed smoother then the MorRyde on the Montana. Overall a much smoother ride ,and braking then the old Montana. It will definitely be disc brakes , and upgraded suspension with shocks. It was the nicest 500 miles of towing that I have ever had in owning 4 different fifth wheels

In conclusion , I will get the those Westlakes off ,and get me another set of Sailuns. Was hoping for some positive reviews of those Westlakes ,but it appears they are not that great . Although one mentioned they are not steel cased or whatever ,but they do have " All Steel Radial " on the sidwall
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