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02-07-2018, 08:22 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: STAYTON
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M.O.C. #18157
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Ordered disc brakes today!!
You guys are as bad as the Harley Davidson forums!
I ordered my disc brake kit today and am looking forward to getting started.
It seems like the right thing to do, these big trailers are a handful in a hard stop situation.
Mark
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02-07-2018, 08:35 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Auburn
Posts: 879
M.O.C. #18474
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Man, that is the one mod I really want to do as it is SO much better than the drums. Post up some pics in you would. Just to make me more jealous!
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2020 Montana 3790RD Legacy EditionOnan, TST TPMS, TrailAir pin, Discs,
2013 F350 DRW 4x4 CC LBViair 10007, Ride-Rites, Westin HDx, 12k Smittybilt
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02-07-2018, 08:36 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Oro Valley
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Let us know how the install goes assuming you are doing it yourself.
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Zack and Donna plus Millie and Ranger
2018 3160RL
"Life is too short to stay indoors, enjoy the ride!"
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02-07-2018, 08:40 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2016
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M.O.C. #18157
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Golfmedik
Man, that is the one mod I really want to do as it is SO much better than the drums. Post up some pics in you would. Just to make me more jealous!
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I will take some pictures, I'm hoping it's as good an idea as it sounds.
I'm due for a bearing packing anyway so thought I may as well. The brakes on these things are smaller than an old 1/2 ton pickup. Here's to hoping.
Mark
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02-07-2018, 09:24 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Bee Branch
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Man I am pea green!!! The disc brakes are high on the priority list but not as high as the better tires and cushion hitch......
Might as well do the disc brakes with top of the line bearings and upgraded suspension all at once?
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James & Irene Wilson
Bee Branch, AR.
2017 Ram 1 ton diesel duallyCrew Cab/Long Bed
2018 Montana High Country 381TH Garage Full of Toys
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02-07-2018, 09:42 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2016
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M.O.C. #18157
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mtlakejim
Man I am pea green!!! The disc brakes are high on the priority list but not as high as the better tires and cushion hitch......
Might as well do the disc brakes with top of the line bearings and upgraded suspension all at once?
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The brake setup comes with the new bearings. We have the 4100 Mor/Ryde and the Mor/Ryde isolater pin box, and G rated tires. I’m very pleased with the ride.
Mark
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02-08-2018, 02:38 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Auburn
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M.O.C. #18474
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I would love to do the 8k independent suspension upgrade to ours as well, but not sure about the funding for that one...
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2020 Montana 3790RD Legacy EditionOnan, TST TPMS, TrailAir pin, Discs,
2013 F350 DRW 4x4 CC LBViair 10007, Ride-Rites, Westin HDx, 12k Smittybilt
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02-08-2018, 06:31 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 1,788
M.O.C. #14547
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Disc brakes may be the best mod you will ever make on a towable RV
Take a good look at those new bearings as some suppliers don't give you any improvement over the Chinese junk Keystone/Dexter
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Dave W
2014 Montana High Country 343RL (Sold!)
2011 Ford 6.7 Lariat CCLB (Went to PU Heaven)
2019 F150SC XLT SE Sport,w/full tow package
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02-08-2018, 09:08 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2016
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M.O.C. #18157
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Golfmedik
I would love to do the 8k independent suspension upgrade to ours as well, but not sure about the funding for that one...
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Ya, I don’t know about that one either. I personally am very pleased with the ride of the 4100 M/R on ours. If I was pulling it every day all day long, or even once a week, might be different.
If the brakes are as big an improvement to stopping as I’ve been reading I’ll be happy.
Mark
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02-10-2018, 06:12 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: westminster md
Posts: 2,318
M.O.C. #17894
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I have disc brakes on my 3455sa and I can stop the entire rig with just the trailer brakes if needed. The difference is NIGHT AND DAY. I no longer feel the camper pushing the truck. I now feel the camper and truck braking as one.
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02-10-2018, 06:31 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2016
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M.O.C. #18157
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Quote:
Originally Posted by beeje
I have disc brakes on my 3455sa and I can stop the entire rig with just the trailer brakes if needed. The difference is NIGHT AND DAY. I no longer feel the camper pushing the truck. I now feel the camper and truck braking as one.
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That’s great to hear. I’m still trying to get my mind around how the braking is ‘proportional’ to the pickup brakes. I suppose it’s built into the actuator sensing inertia? I’m really looking forward to them.
I was disappointed to find out that there aren’t any American made bearings anymore. Even Timkens are made in China.🤨
Mark
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02-10-2018, 06:34 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: STAYTON
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M.O.C. #18157
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave W
Disc brakes may be the best mod you will ever make on a towable RV
Take a good look at those new bearings as some suppliers don't give you any improvement over the Chinese junk Keystone/Dexter
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Thanks! I did some checking and found even Timkens are made in China. 😕
Mark
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02-14-2018, 09:07 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: STAYTON
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M.O.C. #18157
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave W
Disc brakes may be the best mod you will ever make on a towable RV
Take a good look at those new bearings as some suppliers don't give you any improvement over the Chinese junk Keystone/Dexter
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Dave,
Do you think Timken are manufactured to a closer tolerance even if they are manufactured overseas?
For the 250 bucks I’d gladly buy the better ones.
Mark
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02-14-2018, 11:02 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 1,788
M.O.C. #14547
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MARK A
Dave,
Do you think Timken are manufactured to a closer tolerance even if they are manufactured overseas?
For the 250 bucks I’d gladly buy the better ones.
Mark
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Mark, I'm convinced that Timken as well as National, SKF Fafnir, NTN and Bower just to name a few are a better choice then the unbranded Far Eastern bearing manufacturers products and are made to ISO and ASTM plus other worldwide standards you can actually find on the 'net while the unbranded bearings are at best, questionable since you usually can't find their manufacturing criteria. I have never had a common branded bearing fail. As far as Timken manufacturing bearings outside the US and other folks bone of contention, that company at my last look made bearings in 27 different countries but have to assume built to their worldwide standards.
If you do choose to go with Timken, Rock Auto Parts has usually had better pricing then Amazon even with shipping charges.
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Dave W
2014 Montana High Country 343RL (Sold!)
2011 Ford 6.7 Lariat CCLB (Went to PU Heaven)
2019 F150SC XLT SE Sport,w/full tow package
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02-14-2018, 11:19 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2016
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M.O.C. #18157
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave W
Mark, I'm convinced that Timken as well as National, SKF Fafnir, NTN and Bower just to name a few are a better choice then the unbranded Far Eastern bearing manufacturers products and are made to ISO and ASTM plus other worldwide standards you can actually find on the 'net while the unbranded bearings are at best, questionable since you usually can't find their manufacturing criteria. I have never had a common branded bearing fail. As far as Timken manufacturing bearings outside the US and other folks bone of contention, that company at my last look made bearings in 27 different countries but have to assume built to their worldwide standards.
If you do choose to go with Timken, Rock Auto Parts has usually had better pricing then Amazon even with shipping charges.
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Thank You!
Mark
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10-25-2019, 05:13 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: MIDLOTHIAN
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MARK A
Thank You!
Mark
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Mark how did you disc brake conversion go. Are you happy with it.
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Bob & Sharon
Midlothian, Tx.
2011 Montana 3400RL Hickory Edition, Kodiak disc brakes and Andersen Hitch.
2006 GMC Sierra 2500HD
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10-25-2019, 05:25 PM
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Montana Master
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M.O.C. #18157
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Couldn't be more pleased. The stopping distance is remarkably less. Probably the best thing I've done to the trailer so far. Tom at Stopyourtrailer.com was very helpful, I elected to buy new Timken bearings and races and I saved the China ones for Emergency spares.
Mark
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10-25-2019, 08:52 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Box Elder
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We had discs installed at the Coos Bay, OR rally in June. Went from the brake controller set at 9 to 4.5 and the rig stops much better than just the truck alone. We opted for the Timkens, and they were only a little less than $40 per wheel, and the outer bearing on the 8K disc hub is larger than on the 7K drum hub, so should be much more durable. This photo is at the end of the first short day of installation, still needing the plumbing and the controller installed.
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2012 3402RL
2012 Chevy 2500HD D/A CC 4WD
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10-26-2019, 06:22 AM
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Montana Fan
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rohrmann
We had discs installed at the Coos Bay, OR rally in June. Went from the brake controller set at 9 to 4.5 and the rig stops much better than just the truck alone. We opted for the Timkens, and they were only a little less than $40 per wheel, and the outer bearing on the 8K disc hub is larger than on the 7K drum hub, so should be much more durable. This photo is at the end of the first short day of installation, still needing the plumbing and the controller installed.
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Bob which disc brake kit did you use.
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Bob & Sharon
Midlothian, Tx.
2011 Montana 3400RL Hickory Edition, Kodiak disc brakes and Andersen Hitch.
2006 GMC Sierra 2500HD
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10-26-2019, 02:15 PM
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Montana Master
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Location: Box Elder
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They used the Dexter K71-908-00 disc brake end kits that are the 7/8k 13” rotors with 9/19” studs along with the Brakerite by Dexter EHB 1500psi actuator. Also used were the random axle install kit, new lug nuts, the Ford/Chevy controller adapter, and I had the Timken bearings used instead of the ones from Dexter. All this was put together by Performance Trailer Braking and was shipped to the RV park where the rally was held at. Their installer was there for a couple weeks and also put on a couple presentations for the group.
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2012 3402RL
2012 Chevy 2500HD D/A CC 4WD
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