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Old 01-05-2021, 07:12 PM   #1
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Puppy Help

Hi we have a 2019 3931fb and a new puppy 14 weeks. Problem is she pukes on every car ride. She is a mini golden doodle and we specifically got her because she will be small and not shed!
Any ideas? Also any suggestions about traveling with a dig?
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Old 01-05-2021, 07:30 PM   #2
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Can your puppy see out the window while driving. If riding in the back seat may need to have a bed or seat high enough to see outside.
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Old 01-05-2021, 07:38 PM   #3
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Our daughter and son-in-law have a golden doodle, and she did the exact same thing when she was young. I don't know that I have any advice for you, but as she got older, she eventually became OK with riding in the car, and now she is great when she rides in the vehicle...
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Old 01-05-2021, 08:29 PM   #4
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Talk to your vet. They have meds to address that issue for pets much like they do for humans with motion sickness issues.
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Need a good vet - our youngest lab started that as a pup. Keep the TV COLD, put a fan aimed there and get a prescription from vet. No food or water 1/2 day before travel. Start taking pup in TV when it is parked. Play, spend time there - often (multi times per day) Then progress in half block trips. Over years we finally got her off meds, but cold is still key
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We have a dachshund that gets car sick. We tried the drugs but that was worse than the problem. She rides in a crate in the back seat. We placed puke pads under and around the crate so when she gets sick it doesn't mess the truck. It is unfortunate but when it happens we stop, clean it up and go on. What helps some is not feeding her in the morning of a day of driving.
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need vet help- our westie did the same thing
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Old 01-06-2021, 11:11 AM   #8
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Talk to your vet. They have meds to address that issue for pets much like they do for humans with motion sickness issues.

OP the above is probably the best advice BUT;

when our puppy came to us she had been much abused. She had/has terrible anxiety issues. We have always traveled a lot and when we got in a vehicle she would literally shake so bad she could barely stand up and would not sit down for anything. Talked to our local vet (specializes in race horses) and they gave us a prescription for "something" (don't recall) and told us to give it to her before we departed...we did.

By the time we got to Santa Fe (5 hours) she seemed disoriented and not right. Tried to get her to go up the stairs to the hotel room and she fell down. Got her in the room and she seemed like she was slowly going unconscious and we were beside ourselves. Found a vet hospital and ran down with her. Carried her in and let them look at her. Their assessment? The vet at home had given her the max dosage for a dog much larger than her. The remedy? Wait. The drugs were completely in her system and no way to counteract them. If she survived until morning it would be OK. Me? My happy factor meter was pointed to the full PO mode.

All that to say be sure you get a good vet and be careful with any meds you administer to your puppy.
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As said, get the advice of your vet, but my sister uses Dramamine for her cocker. I don't remember the dosage, but her vet said it's very safe and advised her on how much to give. I think you can get it over the counter now. It's the same thing people use for motion sickness, air sickness, etc.
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Old 01-07-2021, 05:53 AM   #10
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Yes we tried that but she just lays down and whines and drools til she upchucjs!
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Yes we tried that but she just lays down and whines and drools til she upchucjs!
That is EXACTLY what my daughters golden doodle did. I wonder if it's something associated with that breed???
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Is it possible your driving technique needs to be modified? Not accusing, just saying you are used to driving a certain way and a dog on board changes that. As humans we typically know what driving in a vehicle is like because we have been conditioned to it and react accordingly. Dogs do not, until they have been conditioned to it and even then their response is very limited. At 14 weeks your puppy still has no concept of what riding in a car is really like. But dogs will never understand what happens next when traffic lights change, when you are about to turn or when numbskulls cut you off. Dogs deal with this type of stress far differently than humans do. It also helps to have the A/C on or windows open enough to get fresh air in or both.
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Is it possible your driving technique needs to be modified? Not accusing, just saying you are used to driving a certain way and a dog on board changes that. As humans we typically know what driving in a vehicle is like because we have been conditioned to it and react accordingly. Dogs do not, until they have been conditioned to it and even then their response is very limited. At 14 weeks your puppy still has no concept of what riding in a car is really like. But dogs will never understand what happens next when traffic lights change, when you are about to turn or when numbskulls cut you off. Dogs deal with this type of stress far differently than humans do. It also helps to have the A/C on or windows open enough to get fresh air in or both.
I think that sounds like a good thought, but I know in my daughters case, she's the driver almost all the time, and she doesn't drive erratically at all.

I think that your hypothesis that dogs need to get used to riding in the car is the answer. My daughters dog took a while to get accustomed to riding in the car, and once she did, she was fine. Unfortunately, that took them longer than they would have liked...
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That is EXACTLY what my daughters golden doodle did. I wonder if it's something associated with that breed???
As far as being associated with the breed. Our Goldendoodle rode fine his first time in a vehicle at 9 weeks old and it was a 90 mi trip home from the breeders. However about 3 weeks later he did have an incident of being car sick. Nothing since then and he's now 5 1/2 yrs old and has been on the road as long as 12 hrs. He isn't in a crate and has the entire back seat area of our crew cab to move around and lay, stand or sit however/wherever he wants. He often just sits and looks between the bucket seats watching the road ahead and sometimes burrows his head under my wifes arm asking for attention. He doesn't do this with me as he knows "don't bother the driver"
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... He often just sits and looks between the bucket seats watching the road ahead and sometimes burrows his head under my wifes arm asking for attention. He doesn't do this with me as he knows "don't bother the driver"
LOL. Golden retrievers have to be touching someone ALL the time. I love that about them. I hate that about them. They are great dogs though, and golden doodles are good dogs too...
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LOL. Golden retrievers have to be touching someone ALL the time. I love that about them...............
Oh, so true!
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Pup gets sick?!

First, take your dog on many very short rides at unexpected times. Like around the block short. When you get out, if they haven't been sick, feed a small treat. Dogs do have to get used to riding in cars. Make sure every ride is not a trip to another place with the rig, this can cause anxiety. Always be calm. Most pups outgrow this. I had a bouvier that took about three months. Good luck.
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Our son has a Belgium Malinois , she is three now, and she starts to salivate the minute she gets in the car, doesn't even have to be moving. Drugs from the vet have helped . Riding in their motorhome is a little better ,but she just doesn't do well in a vehicle. Being three now, she will probably always have a problem.

We have a new puppy ,he is 15 weeks old now, he's also a mixed breed ,labradoodle , and he is fine in the car no issues. I don't think he is crazy about going for a ride yet ,but he's does okay. No sickness. I never seen a dog that got car sick until my sons dog. I always thought dogs loved to go for a ride. All the dogs we have had sure did. It seems its a common problem.
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Oh, so true!
Well labradoodles are not far behind , they seem to need contact all the time .
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A question for those having trouble with dog car sickness. Is the dog confined to a crate or free and able to move around. Max (our Doodle) has the entire rear seat area to move in, in our 07 GMC Classic the bottom of the rear seat folds forward against the front seats and the rear cushion drops down to form a floor like the Suburbans used too or maybe still do. When we travel long distance my wife folds a comforter in half for him too lay on. If we stop someplace where he's not allowed we crack the windows leave him water in his dish and he's fine. When we traveled the PNW in 19 he was left for up to an hour that way without any problem. He's a pretty laid back dog who believes in his people. When we first did this I was checking him frequently and would find him sleeping most times and never raising a fuss
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