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03-29-2009, 04:37 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Wappingers Falls
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What's a Ball Joint?
Truck has +90k on it...Auto Locker's wouldn't move, so...as a DIYer I did some serious googling and now am an expert. Ok, so I had a father who gave me a basis for my attitude, "labor is free here just need the right tool".
She's all apart now....
What I have learned...my body is not accepting this amount of extra activity as it used too! Rebuild is going to be slow go, after work effort and hopefully less aspirin!!!
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03-29-2009, 05:26 PM
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Montana Master
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Been there...................But don't want to go back. Have "fun".
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03-30-2009, 02:30 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2007
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I remember those days (foolish youngster) when anything that went wrong had to be fixed personally. 1972 Camaro changing balljoints with the tools on hand (20 pound sledge under the fender well, beating the daggone things out). If you haven't been there, trust me I can't explain it!!! I truly hope that the removal you underwent was easier than what I remember doing years ago!!! I definitely agree with your statement about the right tools, but as I said - back then I was the "foolish youngster", Oh well at least I got past the youngster part!! 
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03-30-2009, 03:40 AM
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Montana Master
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I'm not a Ford man. Have owned Fords in the past, but never a 4WD. Is your problem with the ball joints, or a constant velocity joint behind the hub? That looks like a foreign language to me, as the GM products have been IFS since someone in late 80s.
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03-30-2009, 05:01 AM
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Montana Master
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I did it on a Landcruser I had in the 70's, it took a while and some reading, dut I did it, chock it up as another learning experance in your life. great pictures, is that rust I see inside the axel tube housing?
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Pulling a 2004, 2980 RL an oldie but goodie.
Tow vehicle is a 2009 RED RAM 3500 DRW.
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03-31-2009, 02:38 PM
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Montana Master
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M.O.C. #6263
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SlickWillie, Is your problem with the ball joints, or a constant velocity joint behind the hub?
Lower Ball Joint...doing the "clunk, clunk" when yanking on top/bottom of tire
Replaced both upper and lower ball joints...now the process of reassembly
Trailer Trash 2, is that rust I see inside the axle tube housing?
Yes it is, seems the Ford axle design has a bit of walk to it and the Seal separated, have new one...
Good news, there is an inner cone seal that actually maintains the 90wt separation...so that area is 'dry'...mine obviously was exposed to moisture
Oh...and now the Fun Meter is pegging!
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03-31-2009, 03:03 PM
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Montana Master
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After I bought my 2004 F250 4x4 I had to have a provincial inspection and after less than 32000 miles the ball joints were worn so it would not pass inspection here in BC. My mechanic told me it was quite common on the 2000 - 2004 or somewhere around those years for the ball joints to last just beyond the 30000 warranty. and yes they were worn which I did not notice until it was jacked up and checked. The front end did move around a whole bunch. It does drive better after they were installed, however it drove OK before. The new ones have zerks where the original one did not.
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04-01-2009, 03:00 AM
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Montana Master
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Noneck, I don't have a problem, just curious. I noted you said the Auto Locker wouldn't work. Wondering why a worn ball joint would effect the Auto Locker? Ford still use a u-joint configuration for cv joints? Like I said, the GMs I have worked on over the last 20 years have the ball and knuckle type cv joints. BTW, I just had both front bearing ass'y on front of the GMC replaced to the tune of over $1000. They're notorious for early failure. No place to work on it here.
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04-01-2009, 04:43 AM
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Montana Master
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I don't believe those are called "ball joints". I believe ball joints are what are used as the pivot point on an A frame or lower control arm (mostly 2WD). If I'm not mistaken, I believe these are "pin bushings" or something like that. Even the Ford 2WD has used them since the 60s when they introduced the Twin I-Beam suspension.
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04-01-2009, 05:10 AM
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Montana Master
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by bsmeaton
I don't believe those are called "ball joints". I believe ball joints are what are used as the pivot point on an A frame or lower control arm (mostly 2WD). If I'm not mistaken, I believe these are "pin bushings" or something like that. Even the Ford 2WD has used them since the 60s when they introduced the Twin I-Beam suspension.
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Seems like on my 1964 Ford pickup I replaced the "king pin" bushings.
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04-01-2009, 05:39 AM
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Montana Master
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M.O.C. #6109
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by SlickWillie
Quote:
quote:Originally posted by bsmeaton
I don't believe those are called "ball joints". I believe ball joints are what are used as the pivot point on an A frame or lower control arm (mostly 2WD). If I'm not mistaken, I believe these are "pin bushings" or something like that. Even the Ford 2WD has used them since the 60s when they introduced the Twin I-Beam suspension.
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Seems like on my 1964 Ford pickup I replaced the "king pin" bushings.
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Yep - I think that was it Slick.
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04-01-2009, 03:13 PM
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Montana Master
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M.O.C. #6263
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SlickWille, The Auto locker was my original scope of work, when I was about to pull it I noted the the lower ball joint would wobble under pressure.
You guys are funny, So...ball joints are replaced and front Knuckle is re-installed. Currently trying to build a tool to install the axle seal...and yes the Fun Meter still pegged!
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04-04-2009, 08:54 AM
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Montana Master
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M.O.C. #6263
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After a momentary scare (ABS Light), apparently the computer detected when I had the left front sensor unplugged. So this job is done...4x4 working again.
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04-04-2009, 09:58 AM
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Montana Master
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by noneck
After a momentary scare (ABS Light), apparently the computer detected when I had the left front sensor unplugged. So this job is done...4x4 working again.
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Great! I looked at some of the ball joints on the Ford 4 X 4's. Big son of a guns. Press fit? ABS sensor is one of the factors that add to the cost of the GM bearing ass'y. They are made in the ass'y.
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04-04-2009, 11:08 AM
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Montana Master
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Yes, pressed mine in with C-clamp press from Advance Auto Parts place...temporary charge my credit card $162.00...got that back on return so...zero cost. I see Harbor Freight has that tool for $59.00 so I'm likely gonna own one soon, never have enough tools!
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