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04-08-2023, 10:43 AM
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ID Numbers (meaning)
What do the model numbers mean at the entry door? Mine is 3665-RL, I'm pretty sure the RL is for "rear living" but I see many different letter combinations.
But what do the various numbers mean?
Dan & Linda
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04-08-2023, 10:55 AM
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Montana Master
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They used to mean the square footage of the camper but I don’t think they mean anything now.
Lynwood
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04-08-2023, 11:19 AM
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Site Team
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The two letter suffixes (RL, FL, BR, RK, etc.) have always had a meaning relative to the floor plan layout. AFAIK, the four (and now three) numeric digits have never meant anything other than model number. The early 2950, 2955, and 2980 all had the same square footage layout. Montana dropped the 29nn numbers and went exclusively to 3nnn numbers. They range from 32' to 42' in length and two to five slides. Obviously square footage varies widely amongst them.
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Carl (n Susan)
There is more to life than fuel mileage.
2012 Montana 3700RL Big Sky Package towed by a 2015 Ford F350 6.7L PSD 4WD CC LWB
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04-09-2023, 05:22 AM
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Montana Master
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One other thing I learned about mine is that the even numbered ending is RV refrigerator and the odd number is residential refrigerator. So the 3790RD is the same floor plan as the 3791RD, except the latter has a residential refrigerator.
I don't know if this holds true for all the other plans.
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Robert & Diana McNeal
2019 Montana Legacy 3791RD 20th Anniversary Edition
2014 F350 4x4 6.7L SRW
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04-09-2023, 05:34 AM
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Montana Fan
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And apparently that no longer holds as my ‘21 was a 3120RL with a rv fridge, a 3121rl with a residential fridge and for 2023, it is a 3123rl no matter which fridge is in it. There are also a few minor changes for 2023, but not really a floor plan change, just some things like a different pantry setup.
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2021 3121rl - slide toppers, cottage white, TST 507 TPMS, X-Factors, disc brakes
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04-09-2023, 05:43 AM
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Montana Master
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Hmmm...Good to know.
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2019 Montana Legacy 3791RD 20th Anniversary Edition
2014 F350 4x4 6.7L SRW
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04-09-2023, 06:02 AM
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My rig may be an exception to your theory. My 3665-RL has an RV (OEM) refridgerator
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04-09-2023, 11:12 AM
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Montana Master
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What we are learning is these numbers mean nothing.
Lynwood
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04-09-2023, 11:15 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by swingby1
My rig may be an exception to your theory. My 3665-RL has an RV (OEM) refridgerator
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The odd ending digit is a fairly recent thing. Maybe the last 4 or 5 years? I had a 2955RL with a RV refer but that was 18 years ago.
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Carl (n Susan)
There is more to life than fuel mileage.
2012 Montana 3700RL Big Sky Package towed by a 2015 Ford F350 6.7L PSD 4WD CC LWB
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04-12-2023, 01:24 PM
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This thread has taught us nothing.
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04-12-2023, 08:22 PM
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I always thought it had something to do with length? Guess not. My 3295 RK does indeed have a rear kitchen but total length is close to 36'. I never measured but assumed the 3295 meant close to 33' from front to rear inside.
Are you all saying the (at least) first 2 numbers have nothing to do with length?
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04-12-2023, 09:25 PM
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Montana Master
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Funny isn’t it, this subject has been discussed several times on this forum as well as others and yet I have not seen even one explanation from a manufacturers representative! Pretty sure the numbers are meaningless.
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04-16-2023, 05:44 AM
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Montana Master
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Couple years ago I did a short study of the model nos. at that time and the first two digits seemed to be a few feet less than the reported length. I concluded at the time that it was maybe the interior length. As for the residential refer, that was either a 0 or a 1.
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2017 Lariat F-350 FX4, CC, SB, 6.7 PSD 4WD
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04-16-2023, 07:26 AM
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Montana Master
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We had a 2010 2955RL and it was 34 or 35 feet, a little more than a few.
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2018 Chevy 3500HD High Country DRW 4X4 Crew Cab w/Duramax/Allison, Formally 2010 Montana 2955RL, Now Loaded 2016 SOB, Mor/ryde IS, Disc Brakes & Pin Box, Comfort Ride Hitch, Sailun 17.5 Tires.
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04-17-2023, 06:26 AM
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Montana Master
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mhs4771
We had a 2010 2955RL and it was 34 or 35 feet, a little more than a few.
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lol, shoots that theory down the drain.
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2017 Lariat F-350 FX4, CC, SB, 6.7 PSD 4WD
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04-17-2023, 06:09 PM
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My 295 is 34'. I think they use the floor plan length.
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Tony & Donna
2022 Montana HC, 295RL, Solar Flex 400, Onan 3600 LPG, 2K inverter, 200AH Lithium. 2020 GMC Denali 2500 6.6 Duramax, Demco 21K Auto Slide
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04-18-2023, 08:55 AM
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Montana Master
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My 2955 was 32 feet long.
Lynwood
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04-18-2023, 09:22 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mlh
My 2955 was 32 feet long.
Lynwood
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Same as ours.
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04-18-2023, 03:31 PM
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Montana Master
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joint Venture II
Same as ours.
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This brings up another question. Did the length of the 2955 campers change at some point or is it a question of how we measure them? I know they got heavier. Mine was 92 or 94 hundred pounds but the later ones were heavier.
Lynwood
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04-18-2023, 05:59 PM
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Site Team
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I think I found it. Plug your model number into this equation to determine total length.
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