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12-06-2020, 03:42 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Winthrop Harbor
Posts: 1,831
M.O.C. #8160
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Scare lights
The switches for the scare light light up when turned on but the lights themselves do not turn on.
It’s been awhile since I used them, if ever. I doubt that both bulbs could need replacing and the fuse box shows no sign of a blown fuse. Any suggestions? Thx
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12-06-2020, 03:56 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Anderson
Posts: 2,581
M.O.C. #22835
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Not knowing the year or model of your camper, it's highly possible the bulbs are blown out, unless they are LED light. If they are LED lights, then something else probably going on.
All my previous travel trailers had single filiment 1156 automotive bulbs on the outside lights, even the amber one above the door.
My Montana, now has all LED lights, except for the amber one above the door.
Also, do you have the Dometic Power Channel on your awning? If so, the switch you are turning on may go to the Power Channel. If nothing is connected to the Power Channel, like the floodlight for the fan, nothing happens when you flip that switch.
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12-06-2020, 08:29 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Wilsey
Posts: 18,799
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Again not knowing the year of your rig, if it has a remote and they were turned off with the remote they can only be truned on by the remote.
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01-15-2021, 10:15 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Worthington
Posts: 146
M.O.C. #21597
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My apologies for jumping your thread. But my scare light would come on by itself. Using the remote it always shut off until now. New batteries didn’t help. On another tread I learned that it’s the grounding at the control box. My question is where is the control box? I’ve got a 2010 3400RL.
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2010 Montana 3400 RL
2011 F350 SD SRW 6.7 Diesel
Worthington MN
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01-16-2021, 06:22 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: westminster md
Posts: 2,318
M.O.C. #17894
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Your control box should be above the battery. mounted on the dividing wall up high. It has many wires attached to it with screw terminals.
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01-17-2021, 09:37 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Worthington
Posts: 146
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Thanks. Found it. Unhooked the scare light so it’s not on all the time. Very seldom used the light anyway. Nothing works with the remote. It’s $200 to replace the system with a new remote and controller box. Just not sure if it’s worth it just to use the remote for awning, slides, and landing gear. Something to ponder I guess.
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2010 Montana 3400 RL
2011 F350 SD SRW 6.7 Diesel
Worthington MN
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01-17-2021, 09:43 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: westminster md
Posts: 2,318
M.O.C. #17894
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Most people, including myself have abandoned the remote system. The batteries in the remote itself do not last long at all.
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2018 Chevy 3500 LTZ Dually Diesel 4x4 CCLB
2011 Montana 3455 SA. 6 point level up. Disc brakes. Curt Q24 Hitch. 5 step glow steps
Progressive EMS. Valterra tank valves. Sailun G637 tires. ARP fridge control. All led lighting. Mor Ryde IS
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01-17-2021, 10:28 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Carmichael - CA
Posts: 7,359
M.O.C. #4831
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bnrc73
Thanks. Found it. Unhooked the scare light so it’s not on all the time. Very seldom used the light anyway. Nothing works with the remote. It’s $200 to replace the system with a new remote and controller box. Just not sure if it’s worth it just to use the remote for awning, slides, and landing gear. Something to ponder I guess.
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For those of us who actually use and like the Remote, the failure is upsetting. But usually the failure can be overcome. And not by paying $200+ to replace the "brain".
There have a been a number of Posts over the years about the relationship between the Remote and the "Brain" it interacts with. Here is one from 2011 that is still applicable and should help you. You could do a Search but this should get you going again.
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https://www.montanaowners.com/forums...ad.php?t=47547
This is becoming a common problem. Several members have apparently figured out a bypass to buying a new control module. Basically the problem is an interlock designed to prevent concurrent usage of the external switch and the remote fails to reset. The result is only the remote functions. Replacing the control module is the standard solution as the interlock is built into the control board circuitry (~ $200).
The bypass is to move the ground wire from the switches from the connection on the control module to a chassis ground. This negates the interlock and enable the switches once again. The problem of using the external switch and the remote at the same time is not one I consider an issue.
Here are several threads which supply all the knowledge you need to correct the problem.
Page 4 of the discussion - GTOWag (second post on that page) describes the problem and solution.
https://www.montanaowners.com/forums/...remote,control
Jackel1959 describes the problem and solution with pictures!
https://www.montanaowners.com/forums/...ad.php?t=46515
Even more discussion of the problem.
https://www.montanaowners.com/forums/...ad.php?t=46379
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