2015 F350 towing cpacity - Montana Owners Club

Hroddv8 · 12-22-2015, 03:27 AM

We are considering buying a Montana 3720RL. This trailer is little heavier than what we had originally looked at. My question is would a 350 be enough truck to pull it, or would I be pushing the limits of my truck with this trailer? My truck is not a duelly. In looking at the weight ratings it seems that I should be okay (but close to the limits). Does anyone have this trailer/truck combination? What is your experience? Also does any one have a 3720/3721RL Montana? What are your thoughts on this trailer? Thank you all and stay warm!!!

BB_TX · 12-22-2015, 04:53 AM

What is the payload rating on the door sticker? (Do not load in excess of ______lbs)

Hroddv8 · 12-22-2015, 05:36 AM

BB TX the load payload capacity is 3312 lbs.Thanks.

jcurtis934 · 12-22-2015, 06:10 AM

So chances of pin weight being under that is like the fact that fairy dust is real. Try looking at dually specs. John

BB_TX · 12-22-2015, 08:10 AM

With a listed hitch weight of 2,730, basic and unloaded, you will definitely be pushing it. That does not leave much for loading the 5er plus what ever you put in the truck, including people. We don't carry much stuff with us (mostly long weekenders with occasional two weeker) and only two of us (and not very heavy at that) and might get under or close. But some carry everything they can squeeze in.

Maybe someone here can give an actual scaled weight of their loaded 3720RL to give you a real world number.

Having said that, there are a lot of people who put air bags on their trucks (including 250/2500) to level them and pull 5ers that size and larger. I would not recommend that by any means. Just a comment. Someone always makes a comment "but will it stop it". But the trailer brakes, properly adjusted and gain set, will stop the trailer.

Hroddv8 · 12-22-2015, 08:57 AM

BB TX, thanks for the reply. I agree with your comment and that is what I was afraid off. I think this trailer would be pushing the limits of my truck capabilities. I don't want to add bags or anything like that. I would prefer to keep my truck as "stock" as possible.

I would like to still hear from anyone in this forum who has a 3720RL and learn what they tow it with.

There is no chance I will trade my truck for another. The reason I bought this truck and not a duelly is that I also use this truck to commute/drive around town. A duelly is a bear to park downtown and drive in the city.

I like the 3720RL simply because of where the washer and dryer set up is located at (hallway and not in the master bedroom). There are other smaller Montanas that I like but all of them have the laundry area in the bedroom closet. I am retiring in a 2-3 years and we are thinking on RVing full time after that. I wanted an RV that has everything we need and just in the right places. Thanks

BB_TX · 12-22-2015, 09:23 AM

The 3710FL has 200 lb less listed hitch weight. The washer/dryer is in the kitchen area, but it is a front living plan.

Don't know if Montana High Country has a suitable floor plan, but they are lighter and run a few hndred lbs less hitch weight.

pineranch · 12-22-2015, 09:47 AM

All you ever need to know.
http://www.fleet.ford.com/resources/...Tgde_May19.pdf
Mike

CORattler · 12-22-2015, 03:51 PM

Good resource for Ford people...

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quote:Originally posted by pineranch

All you ever need to know.
http://www.fleet.ford.com/resources/...Tgde_May19.pdf
Mike

halfwright · 12-22-2015, 04:41 PM

Help me understand this. You are not going to get another truck or a different trailer. You are not going to modify your truck. You are going to go with what you have. So, what is it you what us to tell you??

Hroddv8 · 12-23-2015, 03:58 AM

Thanks for all of you who provided advise and guidance, especially BB TX.

I am looking at other trailer possibilities. I looked at the 3710 FL and I kind of like the floor plan. I will be looking at the local dealers to see if they have any so that my wife and I can see it. The pin weight on the 3710 is 200 lbs lighter. I figure that would be well within the safety margins. Another possibility is the High Country 374 FL. The laundry is in the bedroom, but at least it isn't in the closet. The pin weight is only 2285 lbs. That leaves me 1000 lbs available payload.

Pineranch, excellent link! Thanks.

jhudson · 12-23-2015, 10:46 AM

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BB TX the load payload capacity is 3312 lbs.Thanks.

Wow, I am shocked that a new 2015 350 SRW is this low. My 2012 3500 SRW has a payload capacity (yellow sticker) of 3965 lbs. I have a 3725 that is similar to the 3721 and it has a dry pin weight of 2815 lbs. Wet weight is 3200 to 3300 lbs depending what I have up front in the storage bays.

Are you sure the 3312 lbs. is a correct figure?

robebeckl · 12-23-2015, 11:11 AM

Hi. Their are cat scales just an exit away from brewerton. Mexico exit off I81. You can see the place from exit. That is the best way too get factual info.
I think braking is my first concern.

BB_TX · 12-23-2015, 11:49 AM

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quote:Originally posted by jhudson

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quote:Originally posted by Hroddv8

BB TX the load payload capacity is 3312 lbs.Thanks.

Wow, I am shocked that a new 2015 350 SRW is this low. My 2012 3500 SRW has a payload capacity (yellow sticker) of 3965 lbs. I have a 3725 that is similar to the 3721 and it has a dry pin weight of 2815 lbs. Wet weight is 3200 to 3300 lbs depending what I have up front in the storage bays.

Are you sure the 3312 lbs. is a correct figure?

The payload varies a LOT depending on the truck configuration, cab, bed, engine, options, etc. from around 3,400 to well over 4,000.

2015 Ford truck numbers

If you change the year in the url link you can get the data other model years.

Hroddv8 · 12-23-2015, 12:15 PM

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quote:Originally posted by jhudson

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quote:Originally posted by Hroddv8

BB TX the load payload capacity is 3312 lbs.Thanks.

Wow, I am shocked that a new 2015 350 SRW is this low. My 2012 3500 SRW has a payload capacity (yellow sticker) of 3965 lbs. I have a 3725 that is similar to the 3721 and it has a dry pin weight of 2815 lbs. Wet weight is 3200 to 3300 lbs depending what I have up front in the storage bays.

Are you sure the 3312 lbs. is a correct figure?

JHudson, yes, I am sure. That is what the yellow sticker on the door says. Like BB TX said, payload's vary considerably depending on configurations. One of the things that significantly affects the payload on my truck is the fact that I have 20" wheels. The fact that it is a crew-cab short bed (6"9") also affects the payload.

I have looked more closely at the numbers on my truck and the numbers on the 3720RL and it seems I would still be under the limits, but just barely. That is figuring a load on the trailer below the maximum capacity. But hey I really find it hard to believe I would ever come close to putting 4,000 lbs in the trailer (which is the trailer load capacity and what would make me over).

brenkco · 12-23-2015, 12:59 PM

Hroddv8,
I had made the mistake of relying on specs. I figured I was close, perhaps a few hundred pounds heavy. Then I got on the scales, did some quick math and in fact I was 2000 lbs over! I couldn't believe it so when I got home, I removed my hitch, filled the truck with fuel and went to the scales again to weigh just the truck. The payload capacity that I thought I had, wasn't close to the specs. By the time I added options, tools and other personal items, the actual payload was about 70% of what I though I had. Add passengers and the hitch...well you get my point.

Now, I only rely on the scales. The specs are just guides to start. Just my personal experience.

Ken

pkbridges77 · 12-23-2015, 01:38 PM

This is all very interesting, and I guess I'm encouraged to see that others have not made the best "first choice" in tow vehicles. When I bought the '15 F250 in April the thought of fifth wheeling was just a slight glimpse of our future. Little did I know we would end up with a 37 ft Monte in a few months because it was the right price in the right condition. I was at max weight - I could tell by the way the truck handled and squatted, and knowing our plans to full-time it will get loaded with more of our junk.

I traded today for a '16 F-350 DRW and am confident this vehicle will take us well into the future. Somehow saved almost $12k off the sticker so felt reasonably good about it

Hroddv8 · 12-23-2015, 02:19 PM

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Hroddv8,
I had made the mistake of relying on specs. I figured I was close, perhaps a few hundred pounds heavy. Then I got on the scales, did some quick math and in fact I was 2000 lbs over! I couldn't believe it so when I got home, I removed my hitch, filled the truck with fuel and went to the scales again to weigh just the truck. The payload capacity that I thought I had, wasn't close to the specs. By the time I added options, tools and other personal items, the actual payload was about 70% of what I though I had. Add passengers and the hitch...well you get my point.

Now, I only rely on the scales. The specs are just guides to start. Just my personal experience.

Ken

Ken, that is a good suggestion. Just to see where I am, I will find time to load my truck with everything I think I would be carrying (my wife and I combined are around 310 lbs), tools, full tank, and sandbags to simulate a hitch and see how much the truck itself weights.

Paul I hear what you are saying, but I rather buy a different trailer (I like the 3710FL as a possibiliy) than a new truck (or a duelly).

Hroddv8 · 12-23-2015, 02:43 PM

Hey guys, thanks all for your advise and responses. Sorry to keep asking, but maybe it will help if I post the numbers for both the truck and the trailer. Unless I am interpreting these numbers wrong, I think I would still be within the limits... What you guys think?

The truck 2015 F-350

GVWR 11,500
FGAWR 5,600
RGAWR 7,000
GCWR 23,500
Max King Pin 3,312
Max Trailer Wgt 15,900

The trailer 3720RL

GVWR 17,730
Dry Weight 12,645
Carrying Capacity 4,085
Hitch/Pin Weight 2,730

The way I am interpreting these numbers is that as long as I do not load the trailer to its 4,085 lbs capacity (which,unless I am totally wrong, I don't think I would have so much stuff to put in the trailer) I would be okay.

Or does anyone see something I am overlooking? Please don't get me wrong, I am not arguing, I just want to make sure I understand the math and realities of determining weight capabilities. Thanks.

Dam Worker · 12-23-2015, 03:34 PM

Seeing I am not up to date on the new trucks I am curious if the brakes are the same on all the line up at Ford. DRW! SRW and SRW 3/4 ton back in my trucks day they were all the same, is it still that way? My truck will stop the fifth-wheel by itself but not nearly as good as with the trailers brakes helping. The 11500 seems to be real close to what a SRW truck rating was back in 2005 if I remember correctly. Of course that depended on options. I would love to have the disk brakes on my unit as I would rather have the extra stopping power compared to extra pulling power or load capacity at this time with my 3160.

Tom Marty

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