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03-30-2023, 07:04 AM
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New Member
Join Date: Mar 2023
Location: Manahawkin
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M.O.C. #32529
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Front cap LED problem
I just purchased a new 2023 Montana 3901RK with the legacy package. I had our unit delivered to us because I am recovering from shoulder surgery, and could not drive. When it was delivered I noticed the front cap accent LED lights were on. They were also on when we did our walk thru at the dealership. I cannot find a switch anywhere to turn them off. I have been in the on command system, and turned every light function off. I called keystone for some assistance, and they cannot tell me where to turn them off. They will not tell me where the wire that feeds them is. I realize that this is a new floor plan, but I am at a dead end. Any help would be appreciated.
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03-30-2023, 07:57 AM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Dec 2021
Location: Schertz, TX
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M.O.C. #30294
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It's probably a physical switch and not controlled by the on command. Have you tried all of the physical switches in the cabinet above the on command?
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Clark & Peggy
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03-30-2023, 08:26 AM
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New Member
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M.O.C. #32529
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All switches in the cabinet have been identified and checked. I have checked all lower compartments, and no switches.
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03-30-2023, 08:37 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2022
Location: Shingle Springs
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M.O.C. #30417
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That sounds odd. I know that in-command replaced most all of the rocker switches. Are you 100% sure it's not on the menu? As much as I love tech I'm glad I have analog control of my components.
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Tony & Donna
2022 Montana High Country 295RL, Solar Flex 400, Onan 3600 LPG, 2000 Dimensions inverter
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03-30-2023, 09:04 AM
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New Member
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M.O.C. #32529
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I love tech also, I am industrial boiler technician by trade, and regularly have to deal with control issues. I have been thru all menus in the screen, and nothing. How do you turn on, and off your accent LED lights?
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03-30-2023, 03:47 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Chatsworth
Posts: 437
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My switch for those lights is immediately beside the physical switch for the kitchen island lights inside the in command cabinet. Start pulling 12 volt fuses to at least turn them off until you uncover your switch.
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2017 Legacy 3720 IS and Disc brakes
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03-30-2023, 04:14 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Austin
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M.O.C. #21044
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My unit is a 2018 model - but this is where to find my nose cap light switch (top left)
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2019 Chevy 3500 High Country DRW
2018 Montana 3921FB
Aussie Gus + Texas Heeler Jimmy
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03-30-2023, 05:35 PM
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New Member
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Location: Manahawkin
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M.O.C. #32529
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Thanks for all your help. I found the LED accent lights, security light, and front docking light are on a 15 amp fuse #9 marked... outside/accent lights. I located the wire that feeds them, and it appears that someone on the assembly line had a different idea as to how they should be wired, and wired them 12VDC Hot. With no switch. We chose Cobalt full body paint on our unit, and I don't know if the painting part of the assembly maybe affected the final wiring. Anyway, I will add the switch myself. And again I appreciate all of the help.
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03-30-2023, 07:25 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Austin
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M.O.C. #21044
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scooby
Anyway, I will add the switch myself. And again I appreciate all of the help.
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Scooby - I applaud your solution. I have used the same solution many times on my RV!
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MikenDebbie Aggie ‘77 in the sticks near Austin TX
2019 Chevy 3500 High Country DRW
2018 Montana 3921FB
Aussie Gus + Texas Heeler Jimmy
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03-31-2023, 08:46 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2020
Location: UPLAND
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M.O.C. #26190
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scooby
Thanks for all your help. I found the LED accent lights, security light, and front docking light are on a 15 amp fuse #9 marked... outside/accent lights. I located the wire that feeds them, and it appears that someone on the assembly line had a different idea as to how they should be wired, and wired them 12VDC Hot. With no switch. We chose Cobalt full body paint on our unit, and I don't know if the painting part of the assembly maybe affected the final wiring. Anyway, I will add the switch myself. And again I appreciate all of the help.
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Unbelievable it left the factory like that and "NOBODY" noticed the lights were always on. Glad you are able to handle it yourself. If you had to take it in, you wouldn't see your rig for 4 months.
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04-01-2023, 04:31 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: woodstock
Posts: 513
M.O.C. #8174
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Look for a switch above the in-Comand-system
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Montana Master
Woodstock Ga
2020 3931 FB Legacy
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04-02-2023, 01:53 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Oct 2020
Location: Miami Lakes
Posts: 47
M.O.C. #27367
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I’d love to start my statement by say, “Wow, that’s unbelievable”, but I can’t it’s very believable. My switch for the front cap, the pin light and the security lights are all 3 on one small panel underneath the in command panel. I too have the legacy package. They are not marked from factory, you just have to tinker around and figure this stuff out then get a label maker and have at it. That’s crazy, glad you could figure it out. Safe travels.
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04-02-2023, 04:32 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Mesa
Posts: 189
M.O.C. #24588
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My cap light’s switch was inside the battery/hydraulic pump compartment located on the passenger side near the front. I re-wired it to the light under the entry stairs, so that both came on with the iN·Command menu labeled exterior light.
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04-03-2023, 07:05 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Fargo
Posts: 182
M.O.C. #19032
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I have never been around anything this new, but is it possible since the fuse involved in the docking light and security lights I would look for a switch where the switches for the other 2 lights are.
If there is not a separate switch for the cap lights, see if the feed for them is behind the other 2 switches. Could be something as simple as the feed for the cap lights was hooked to the wrong side of a switch, i.e. hooked up to the line feeding the switches vs the load side of a particular switch.
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05-06-2023, 04:00 PM
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New Member
Join Date: May 2023
Location: Lexington
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M.O.C. #32692
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Thanks for your help. I have the same problem with my 2023, 3901 RK.
The factory can’t seem to figure it out. I also have two rocker switches unlabeled in the compartment with the control panel, but they can’t seem to identify.
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