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04-24-2007, 12:14 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Green Valley
Posts: 1,618
M.O.C. #6022
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moving rear stabilizer jacks--risky??
In the process of trying to figure out whether to go with a bike rack installed in the rear of our new Big Sky, it occurs to me that installing a bike rack back there would probably require moving the power rear stabilizer jacks forward in order to create enough space to bolt on the framework for a bike carrier. In that regard, I have a few questions about the feasibility of trying to move the rear stabilizer jacks closer to the trailer wheels.
First, is there any problem that I'm likely to experience if the jacks are moved forward. I'm assuming there is some reason that the jacks are put in the rear of the rigs, so I wonder what would be the consequences of moving them forward. And would it matter in that regard how far forward they were moved?
Second, if I later decide to go with something like the JT Strong Arm stabilizers to cut down on the rocking of the rig, would there be a problem trying to add them to the rear stabilizer jacks if the jacks have been moved forward? Also, since I have the power jacks on the Big Sky, is there much benefit to be gained by adding the JT Strong Arm cross bars to the rear jacks--seems to me that the power version of the OEM rear stabilizer jacks are pretty sturdy.
Thanks in advance for your help--I don't claim to understand much about what's going on there in the back of the rig.
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04-24-2007, 12:31 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Lone Tree
Posts: 5,615
M.O.C. #6109
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David,
From what I just learned in the last few minutes:
It's no problem moving your jacks forward to accommodate the hitch. Ozz had to move them forward on his install, you might PM him.
Can't be sure on your rear stabilizers, but I assume they are the same BAL telescoping type as the Montana, only with a motor on the outside instead of the nut.
If you decide you want the JTs on the rear, and you have moved your jacks, you'll probably have to go forward of the jacks with a piece of angle iron 2" X 3" (your hitch will be in the way on the back). It will make it inconvenient to reach the T bolts, but should work. OR It might also be possible to mount the JTs directly to your hitch bar, which is probably going to be more stout than angle iron anyway.
Have fun!
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04-24-2007, 01:17 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Paola
Posts: 5,739
M.O.C. #4961
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I agree with Brad, I've been into the belly in the back and see no reason why you could not move the jacks forward some. Just to carry the bikes you may be able to find a hitch that will mount without moving the jacks.
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Paola, Kansas
Montana 3735MK Legacy Edition
1200 watts of Solar
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04-24-2007, 01:37 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Clearwater
Posts: 10,917
M.O.C. #420
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David, the rear bike rack I built did not move the stabilizers accept to put the tubing between the stabilizers and the frame. Nothing really changed except that the stabilizers are about 1 inch lower.
Rear Bike Rack
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04-24-2007, 03:26 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Bonita Springs
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M.O.C. #6977
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i see no reason to move the jacks ahead as i am putting on a rear bike rack and there is about 8 or 9" of frame behind the jacks so we bolted 2 2x2 lite wt iron to the frame the hitch people say thats all that is needed as those 2 members are about 3 " apart , thats plenty of beef
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04-24-2007, 05:14 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: K.C.
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M.O.C. #5980
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Actually, Croft hitch co. here in K.C. stated that they move the jacks when installing the hitch I bought.
I crawled under there with my trusty tape and determined I would not have to move anything.
I installed my bolted on hitch kit and everything works just fine.
(I believe there would be no adverse effects if the stabilizers would be moved a few inches.)
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04-25-2007, 01:56 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Conover
Posts: 995
M.O.C. #1832
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Is there not enough room to remove them install hitch and then bolt them back onto the hitch bolt pattern?
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04-25-2007, 02:18 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: K.C.
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M.O.C. #5980
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I think they would hit the hitch with the swing up leg part, need to be a little distance between them, I don't think you could use the same bolt mount. But, I am still asleep, so I may be wrong......
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04-25-2007, 02:35 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Hernando
Posts: 127
M.O.C. #2888
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I recently had a local hitch shop put a receiver on the back of our '05 3500RL and they did move the stabilizers forward a couple of inches. They unbolted the jacks and moved them forward enough to use the hole in the frame for the front bolt for the rear bolt on the jack. That way, they only had to drill a couple of holes instead of 4.
We've been out 3 times since then, and I can not tell any difference in the way the stabilizers steady the Montana, still feel the same as before.
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04-25-2007, 07:11 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: anywhere
Posts: 912
M.O.C. #6260
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Odd that this subject came up, BUT, while trying to stablize our unit more because of the washing machine when it spins out I tried stablizing right at the axle bearing between the wheels. When supported there the unit was much more stable. With the rear stablizers down, along with the axle stablizers, it was less stable. Now I may or may not even put down the rear stablizers, and if I do I adjust them to bearly touch the ground. Don't know why it works, but it does on ours.
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04-25-2007, 02:47 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Green Valley
Posts: 1,618
M.O.C. #6022
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by sailer
i see no reason to move the jacks ahead as i am putting on a rear bike rack and there is about 8 or 9" of frame behind the jacks so we bolted 2 2x2 lite wt iron to the frame the hitch people say thats all that is needed as those 2 members are about 3 " apart , thats plenty of beef
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John--Not sure if I understand what you are describing when you say the 2 members "are about 3" apart." Are you talking about a setup where you are bolting the hitch to either side of one side of the frame? If not, just what kind of a setup are you describing?
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