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04-16-2013, 09:34 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Athol
Posts: 119
M.O.C. #10293
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IS-Neverlube or regular bearings
After talking with several of you guys at Quartszite this year, I am going to have the IS done before the fall rally. I would welcome opinions as to the pros and cons of the neverlube or using regular bearings. According to the Mor-Rhyde salesman, the neverlube should probably be replaced around 8ok miles. These are not interchangeable, so the ones you decide on, you are stuck with.
I sure wish I had the IS a couple of weeks ago when traveling from Flagstaff to Gallup on I-40. I now call this the roller-coaster highway.
Thanks.
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04-16-2013, 10:21 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: West Sand Lake
Posts: 267
M.O.C. #10232
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Had two Nev-R-Lube bearings go bad on my Sunnybrook. In theory it's a good idea, large double permanently sealed bearings. However in my opinion the bearings are placed too close together and wheel torque does an awful job on them. If the two bearings were further apart like in the EZ Lube, then I think they would have a winner. Myself, I would stick to the EZ Lube until something better comes along. JMHO
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04-16-2013, 10:49 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Holly Springs
Posts: 147
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Have had neverlube and IS for 7 years without any problem.
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04-16-2013, 12:07 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Sebring
Posts: 3,659
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When we had the IS, Disc Brakes, and Never-r-Lube Bearings installed at Mor/ryde on our Monty, I asked the tech his opinion of the Never-r-Lube bearings. He thought they we okay on mid-weight trailers (we had a 2955) but that they wouldn't hold up on a heavier rig.
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2018 Chevy 3500HD High Country DRW 4X4 Crew Cab w/Duramax/Allison, Formally 2010 Montana 2955RL, Now Loaded 2016 SOB, Mor/ryde IS, Disc Brakes & Pin Box, Comfort Ride Hitch, Sailun 17.5 Tires.
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04-16-2013, 01:02 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2003
Location: New Bern
Posts: 4,294
M.O.C. #311
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Went with regular bearings on my IS. Brakes need to be check so do the bearing at the same time.
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04-16-2013, 01:46 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Waterford
Posts: 3,693
M.O.C. #7500
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by mmgeol
After talking with several of you guys at Quartszite this year, I am going to have the IS done before the fall rally. I would welcome opinions as to the pros and cons of the neverlube or using regular bearings. According to the Mor-Rhyde salesman, the neverlube should probably be replaced around 8ok miles. These are not interchangeable, so the ones you decide on, you are stuck with.
I sure wish I had the IS a couple of weeks ago when traveling from Flagstaff to Gallup on I-40. I now call this the roller-coaster highway.
Thanks.
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[s]I don't believe the bearings are any different between the two, it's the hubs that are different. They are drilled and fitted with Zerk fitting to lube the bearings. And for what it's worth, I don't know how a salesman can make a call like that about the life of a bearing.[/s]
Oops - misread easylube for never lube! Going by car/truck sealed bearings, 80K is a good number. Some last longer, but many don't. The huge difference is in a car, you can tell they are going bad before a failure results, but I don't know how you would be able to tell on a trailer. Still, 80K on a trailer is a lot of miles!
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04-16-2013, 01:51 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Wylie
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When installing the I/S I opted for the regular bearings. Yes it is a PITA crawling under the trailer to grease them but on the other hand while there I can do a complete inspection of the underside to make sure all is right with the world.
When the I/S was installed at MorRyde I got the same answer of the never lube being ok on trailers the size on Montana but not on heavier trailers. My logic was if the never lube were ok for the weight but not on heavier that the regular bearings would be a better option. But I also purchased an extra set of bearings just in case. Hopefully it will go on the same parts pile of parts purchased just in case but never needed or used.
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04-16-2013, 02:23 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Haysville
Posts: 4,261
M.O.C. #3085
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This is just from a mechanics view. Engineers are always coming out with seemingly new and better. First and foremost, if you're out near the end of the earth (or can see it from where you're sitting) and have a failure with the never lube bearing design ... getting a replacement bearing assuming it hasn't damaged your wheel hub will probably require a longer waiting period as compared to bearings on a regular hub design which are pretty much over the counter. What little I know of them is the dual opposed bearings are pressed into the wheel hub which is what your wheel and tire bolt to. If the bearings do fail, there's a 50/50 shot at the hub expanding where the bearing presses in. Once this expands, the entire hub has to be replaced $$$.
As for the mechanic's thoughts on these bearings not being as favorable on larger rigs. Who knows ... they are larger bearings, but they are placed together farther out on the spindle creating a longer arm of torque that has to support the weight of the larger trailers.
The manufacturer also suggests inspection every 12 months or 12K miles ... so you're taking the wheel hub off just as you would to check a regular bearing pack. You just won't get as greasy? If you want to go to exotic wheel bearing lube systems ... go with the oil bath spindles like on OTR trailers. Like said JIMHO.
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04-17-2013, 09:52 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Athol
Posts: 119
M.O.C. #10293
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As always, there are lots of experience, insight, and thought to your replies. I think I will opt for the regular bearings since I am a scientist and risk adverse by nature.
Thanks.
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04-17-2013, 11:52 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Cedar Rapids
Posts: 4,876
M.O.C. #1944
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It's interesting to read the various opinions and what was told to a person. We had the E-Z lubes on our rig when we bought it. I was told that would allow me to do my own lubricating of the bearings. Being an old farmer, I always went by the old adage, "If one squirt is good, two is better, and three is best." Needless to say, I ruined a lot of brake linings.
Now, I know that this is supposed to be about never lube bearings. I just wanted to get my experience in because Mor/ryde told me not to put any style of E-Z Lube or Never-Lube devices on my IS when I had them installed.
Having said all that, I opt for re-packing wheel bearings annually or every 12,000 miles, whichever comes first when I'm near my mechanic guru and his little gurus.
Orv
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