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04-20-2007, 02:44 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: K.C.
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Slick new product, looks promising
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04-20-2007, 02:47 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Grand Blanc
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Ozz, would this take the place of a surge protector? As you say, the price is right. - Jim
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04-20-2007, 03:18 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Apple Valley
Posts: 1,574
M.O.C. #1358
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It looks like something I might be interested in - low voltage cutoff and a surge protector...if it works, it's a heck of a lot cheaper than their other model. The only thing I see is it may not allow the power box lid to be closed (I lock mine sometimes - or at least like the option)? If you can still close the box I might get one.
Nice find Ozz - I like that store too - they have treated me well...
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04-20-2007, 03:20 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Chandler
Posts: 624
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"O" Boy, here we go again,
It does claim to be doing the same thing as the SG from TRCI. Same cut off points and same time delay. Very interesting. I would want to get more info about the Co. that makes it, before I bought one.
We have the TRCI and I pestered there Eng. Dept. with questions before I bought mine, I would do the same with these guys.
Looks pretty compact. Great price. Theft?
Happy Camping
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04-20-2007, 03:34 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Weatherford
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Those of us with 30 amp service would get out even cheaper - $86.00.
I'm also VERY interested in whether or not the pedestal box will close !!
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04-20-2007, 03:45 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Apple Valley
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M.O.C. #1358
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If the box wouldn't close, it would be a hindrance to the marketing.
I would then choose to bring it to the inside and hook it up with a couple plugs - I have the thirty amp also.
I see a door to my cord storage and water pump area in my future...
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04-20-2007, 04:02 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Leona
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Good find, Ozz. If it works, it is a much more reasonably priced. CW also has it, but higher priced by a few dollars. I would still put an intermetic surge suppressor in line just in case the big one gets by.
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04-20-2007, 04:27 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Morgan City
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Good one Ozz, looks like that may be a worthwhile addition. price is right to.
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04-21-2007, 01:50 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2006
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I wish I would have thought of making it. There's always a smarter guy just around the corner....
As for the lid shutting, yes, that would be ideal, but look at all the water that is around your plug in at the back of the trailer when it pours rain. You would have some protection in the campground box with the lid shutting half way or so.
I really don't think anyone would notice it plugged in as far as theft goes.
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04-21-2007, 03:44 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Apple Valley
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I ended up buying one last night - it offers more protection than I currently have along with low voltage cutoff and reset. I already have the pigtails if I feel the need to bring it inside.
Thanks for the linkage Ozz.
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04-21-2007, 05:06 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Chandler
Posts: 624
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Another thought came to mind. This would be ideal for the folks who have the Hughes Autoformers and want to add the spike and over/under protection.
It looks like it would simply plug right into the A/F. No fuss no muss. We have our A/F built in with pig tails and this would simply be a matter of un-pluging one side and pluging in this device.
Happy Camping
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04-21-2007, 06:51 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Chandler
Posts: 624
M.O.C. #740
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Looking at this further, its made by the same Co. as ours TRCI. And the only apparent difference is the Joules rating, the by-pass switch and oh yea $125 (30Amp version). What's up with that?
Happy Camping
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04-21-2007, 07:32 AM
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Montana Fan
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Location: Zachary
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Thanks Ozz.
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04-22-2007, 04:03 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Port Orchard
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M.O.C. #3403
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Thanks Ozz, was headed to CW today to purchase a Surge Protector and saw your post before we left. Liked what I saw, so we got one and it's plugged into the system as I write this. Save about $250 getting this unit vice the bigger more spendy other unit.
Karl
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04-22-2007, 04:55 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Virginia Beach
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Blowing up the photo it looks to be identical to the one I purchased from camping world for $89.99. Used it for the first time this weekend and was the only one to have electrical problems. I lost the microwave and TV in the bedroom as well as the converter . Still don't know if the converted caused the problem or if the surgeguard did. The Surgeguard is fried, but no breakers in the unit or on the post triped. After I unpluged the TV to stop the smoke from progressing to full out fire I went out and the lights on the Surge Guard now showed an Open Nuetral. Still had AC power to the unit. I took the surge guard out and after the rangers verified the post had all th proper voltages pluged back in with just the regular cord. The open ground in the converter now tripped it's breaker, the monte main breaker AND the post breakers.
Fire5er, you brought one, is it model AECM10096? if so that is exactly what I have and the specs on the package don't match those on the web site! It is rated for a Surge Energy of 2040 Joules NOT 12040!, Surge Amps is 72,000 and there is no Automatic Power Shut Offs! just indicator lights.
Third problem is plugging it into the post. The front face of this unit is completely flat. unfortunately, most power posts are not. normally the sockets on the post are recessed slightly from the aluminum outer sheath of the post. Depending on the depth of the recess this could prevent you from fully inserting the prongs on the Surgeguard into the recepticle on the post.
I also purchased the 30 Amp version but have not used it yet and not sure if I will. I am calling the company tomorrow and will keep all informed on what they say.
Bottom line I think (but could be wrong) that the company has the wrong specs listed for that device and I am not impressed with its performance the first time out of the shoot. It did kill itself but still continued to provide power to my unit and nearly started a fire. I am glad we were there to unplug the TV and the surgeguard.
Bill
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2023 Grand Design Reflection 367BHS
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04-22-2007, 05:33 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Chandler
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Wow Bill & Lisa,
That's terrible news. So sorry for your situation. The S/G, was it made by TRCI? Just in case you don't have the PH# it's 1-800-780-4324
Wish you the best
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04-23-2007, 01:54 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Virginia Beach
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Yes, it says TRC on the package but the website comes up TRCI.....and the contact number is the same. I will be on the phone with them shortly.
Bill
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2023 Grand Design Reflection 367BHS
2020 GMC SIERRA 2500 Denali, 8 ft bed, SRW, Duramax Diesel w/10 speed Alison Transmission.
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04-23-2007, 03:16 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2006
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Bill, so sorry to hear that. Sounds like the Surgeguard was mis-wired internally, check the fuses in the converter, it should be protected. The mfg. will be eager to get that back to do testing, I bet they will stand behind your damages.
I would pull the line voltage breaker assembly and check all the wires and breakers for damage as well.
Good luck on that deal.
Ozz
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04-23-2007, 04:43 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Pittsburgh (Carroll Twp)
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I was originally going to say, that I could have used one of these units back when I had to replace two Converters because they had forgot to terminate the neutral. I was running off a 220 volt feed with the neutral being any thing that was grounded on the fifth wheel. I did not smoke a TV or anything else but the converter, two times. It could be a similar situation where the neutral stab on the plug is not making connection so you only have 220 volts..
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04-23-2007, 06:52 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Weatherford
Posts: 1,383
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hmmm, perhaps this is the problem: Bill and Lisa stated "Third problem is plugging it into the post. The front face of this unit is completely flat. unfortunately, most power posts are not. normally the sockets on the post are recessed slightly from the aluminum outer sheath of the post. Depending on the depth of the recess this could prevent you from fully inserting the prongs on the Surgeguard into the recepticle on the post." and 5ER stated "It could be a similar situation where the neutral stab on the plug is not making connection so you only have 220 volts." Perhaps the recessed sockets prevented the neutral blade from making contact.
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