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11-01-2018, 09:55 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Anaheim Hills, CA
Posts: 161
M.O.C. #17873
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Tank drain valve
I just got my new Montana 3120RL and was wondering if there is a 2nd valve for the gray tank? My other trailer was a 2015 305RL HC and there was a valve near the axel under the slide on drivers side but on the new trailer I can only find the one in the hookup center. One Black and One gray.
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11-01-2018, 10:09 AM
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Established Member
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Newport
Posts: 45
M.O.C. #21746
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The kitchen gray tank valve is located in the same location as was with your 305RL. I have a 3121RL and we found it by feel as I couldn't see it laying on my back under the camper.
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2018 Montana 3121RL, 35 feet of home away from home.
2018 Chevy 3500HD, 4WD, Double Cab, SRW, 8' bed, Summit White with stump pulling diesel.
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11-01-2018, 10:16 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Anaheim Hills, CA
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M.O.C. #17873
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wyatt Earp
The kitchen gray tank valve is located in the same location as was with your 305RL. I have a 3121RL and we found it by feel as I couldn't see it laying on my back under the camper.
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I looked and nowhere to be found the salesman said the did away with that valve but does he really know LOL
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11-01-2018, 10:33 AM
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Established Member
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Newport
Posts: 45
M.O.C. #21746
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My unit was mfg. in December 2017 and it has the kitchen tank drain valve in front of the axle. A quick way to determine if the dealer really knows what he is taking about is to make sure the shower gray tank is empty and put a few gallons of water down the kitchen sink. Then open the gray tank valve in the hook up center. If water comes out, the dealer may be right. If not then you have a second valve hidden under the camper. Wish you luck.
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2018 Montana 3121RL, 35 feet of home away from home.
2018 Chevy 3500HD, 4WD, Double Cab, SRW, 8' bed, Summit White with stump pulling diesel.
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11-01-2018, 11:01 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Anaheim Hills, CA
Posts: 161
M.O.C. #17873
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wyatt Earp
My unit was mfg. in December 2017 and it has the kitchen tank drain valve in front of the axle. A quick way to determine if the dealer really knows what he is taking about is to make sure the shower gray tank is empty and put a few gallons of water down the kitchen sink. Then open the gray tank valve in the hook up center. If water comes out, the dealer may be right. If not then you have a second valve hidden under the camper. Wish you luck.
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Thanks that is a good idea maybe add some food color to the sink and see what comes out, I have a clear dumper tube connection. I looked all over the drivers side and can't find a valve.
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11-01-2018, 11:24 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Vancouver Island
Posts: 894
M.O.C. #14417
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Take a look to see if there is a hole near your axles as the handle may have fallen off during transport.
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2012 Montana 3400RL,680 Watts Solar,4xT-105 Trojans,GP-ISW2000-12 Inverter,Trimetric 2020, EMSHW50C
2009 Chevy Silverado 3500 LTZ Duramax 4x4 CC Dually, Banks Speed Brake
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11-01-2018, 12:57 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: westminster md
Posts: 2,318
M.O.C. #17894
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I have never seen a single pull handle open the valves of 2 separate tanks together before. Cant see how that would work anyway. Either you are missing something or like stated they did not put it in or it fell out.
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Progressive EMS. Valterra tank valves. Sailun G637 tires. ARP fridge control. All led lighting. Mor Ryde IS
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11-01-2018, 02:47 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Tacoma
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M.O.C. #20475
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Agree with beeje they don't a single pull handle to do 2 valves at the same time.
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2017 HC HM352RL 2018 Dodge 3500 laramie CC LB 4x4
Curt Q25 with puck system, Factory air bags
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11-01-2018, 03:08 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: North Bay Area
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M.O.C. #19469
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lenny K
Take a look to see if there is a hole near your axles as the handle may have fallen off during transport.
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My 5th wheel is much older, but that's exactly what happened on my Galley tank handle. It's located between the tires under the living room slide. It broke in the open position.
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11-01-2018, 03:26 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: St. Paul
Posts: 9
M.O.C. #22684
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I'm new here and new to Montana and I'm confused. I looked at the specs (we have the 2018 3121RL as well) on the brochure and then went to Keystone, and gray water is listed as 88 gallons. It only lists the one. What am I missing?
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11-01-2018, 03:50 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Trinidad, TX
Posts: 506
M.O.C. #20746
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We have a 2018 3121RL and I can assure you there is a second gray tank valve just above the axles. Mine even has a sticker indicating its location. One thing that may make it easier to find is to put your slide out. I had trouble finding it at first even though I knew where it was supposed to be. Now I go right to it and pop it open as soon as we set up.
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2018 Montana 3121RL
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11-01-2018, 05:25 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Carmichael - CA
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M.O.C. #4831
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patnsue
I'm new here and new to Montana and I'm confused. I looked at the specs (we have the 2018 3121RL as well) on the brochure and then went to Keystone, and gray water is listed as 88 gallons. It only lists the one. What am I missing?
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The brochure is misleading. It is correct that the gray water capacity is 88 gallons. By saying that one could imply there is a single tank of that capacity. But there aren't. There are two tanks, one for the shower and one for the galley which, combined, equals the 88 gallon capacity.
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There is more to life than fuel mileage.
2012 Montana 3700RL Big Sky Package towed by a 2015 Ford F350 6.7L PSD 4WD CC LWB
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11-01-2018, 05:44 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: St. Paul
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M.O.C. #22684
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Thanks guys. I know what I'll be supervising tomorrow.
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11-01-2018, 06:04 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Northern Illinois
Posts: 525
M.O.C. #19994
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agree with others, you have 2, an 88 gallon tank would be something. My SOB had a threaded pull handle that would fall off occasionally, then I bought a small bottle of blue Loctite, problem solved, keep looking
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11-01-2018, 06:20 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Haysville
Posts: 107
M.O.C. #21399
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i also have 2018 3121RL I had a hard time find it the first time also. When the side out is in, I still have a hard time find and I know where it is. It is not user friendly.
Right next to the jack.
Little off the subject, check your gas line that goes to the the side out. On ours, the rubber hose was bent 90 + deg. I had the dealer install a 90 deg fitting.
Others have had the same issue.
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Haysville
2018 - 3121RL - 2016 Ram 2500 6.4/4.10
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11-01-2018, 09:00 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Tacoma
Posts: 1,567
M.O.C. #20475
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patnsue
I'm new here and new to Montana and I'm confused. I looked at the specs (we have the 2018 3121RL as well) on the brochure and then went to Keystone, and gray water is listed as 88 gallons. It only lists the one. What am I missing?
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That 88 gallons the 2 tanks con-bind. They are 44 gallons each.
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Bob & Carol Washington St
2017 HC HM352RL 2018 Dodge 3500 laramie CC LB 4x4
Curt Q25 with puck system, Factory air bags
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11-07-2018, 01:36 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Arlington
Posts: 24
M.O.C. #22770
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Which tank is measured by the lights in the control panel where you check various levels?
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2019 Montana 3121RL 20th Anniversary, Cummins/Onan 5.5Kw
2018 Chevy 3500 Duramax
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11-07-2018, 01:44 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Trinidad, TX
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M.O.C. #20746
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All of them should have a lighted level indicator.
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2018 Ram 3500 Laramie Longhorn 4X4 Dually Cummins Aisin CC LB / B&W Companion hitch
50 Gallon Transfer Flow in bed tank w/ Trax 3
2018 Montana 3121RL
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11-07-2018, 02:08 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Macclenny
Posts: 6
M.O.C. #22131
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How inconvenient is that. Crawl under the camper to drain the 2nd grey tank!
Might as well leave it open all the time. Any thoughts on leaving it open?
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11-07-2018, 02:17 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Where we park it
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M.O.C. #21218
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2nd gray water tank handle location
We just moved into our 2018 3120rl. The galley handle is in front of the jack and above the sewer drain connection.
We are to find the exact capacity of each gray tank. I understand the total is 88 but would like to know the exact amount they each hold. Does anyone have specifics rather than assumptions?
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