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Old 02-26-2017, 09:37 PM   #21
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Old 02-27-2017, 08:12 AM   #22
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Yep I saw Video of the same thing happening to a dulley. The guy was just riding down the road a puff of wind got it and over it went.
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When I went truck shopping it was for a 2500 D/A. It was, in my mind, the perfect truck to do the job, a diesel, Allison transmission, not to big, would fit in the garage, go through the drive throughs, fit in the standard parking lot, etc. During my shopping, I talked to an older guy who was also looking for a truck for a 5th wheel. To make a long story short, he convinced me I should not buy the truck I wanted, but buy the truck I needed. I wanted that 2500, but after we did the numbers, there was no doubt I "needed" a dually. The rest they say is history.
In 100K and the last 3 years, I'm yet to find a drive through that I can't get my F450 through. In fact, with the wide track front end, I'm more maneuverable than I ever was in my F350 SRW. I've always been a crew cab, long bed guy, so none of them fit in a standard residential garage. Fixed that problem when I built the new house though.
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Old 03-01-2017, 05:36 AM   #24
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Todd727 My F250 takes 40 acres to turn around. That is why I bought a 150. I can turn it around in 20 acres.
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Old 03-01-2017, 12:38 PM   #25
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Love the weight posts. I have an F-250 with the 6.7. Trust me, you have the power, BUT you WILL be over on the GVWR. I am right at the limit and my 5er is lighter than yours. Your pin weight will easily be 3000#. You will be really surprised on how much weight is up front in the 5th wheel. I am fine on total towing


Get the F-350. Better yet yet the F-350 DRW
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Old 03-01-2017, 02:03 PM   #26
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During my shopping, I talked to an older guy who was also looking for a truck for a 5th wheel. To make a long story short, he convinced me I should not buy the truck I wanted, but buy the truck I needed. I wanted that 2500, but after we did the numbers, there was no doubt I "needed" a dually. The rest they say is history.
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Old 03-02-2017, 05:31 AM   #27
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Todd727 My F250 takes 40 acres to turn around. That is why I bought a 150. I can turn it around in 20 acres.
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Should've just bought some land.
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Old 03-02-2017, 07:28 AM   #28
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I do live on a farm.
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Old 03-02-2017, 03:00 PM   #29
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Ok, MORE land. That's what I keep doing.
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Wow, just up to 2 pages of discussion after over two weeks on the weight issue and SRW vs DRW. I am shocked!


When you first get that new fiver you are looking at and pull it home without all the stuff you could probably pull it across the scales, plug those numbers into the formula and be within limits. After a season of camping and adding everything you will more than likely be over on gross or at least on your drive axle.


We were full time with a 2012 F350 SRW with the 6.7. After the first year I had to start deciding what stuff I needed to get rid of to stay within limits. I never wanted the issue of parking a 8' bed dual wheel truck in restaurant or shopping store parking lots. Anyone that tells you it is never an issue is not being completely honest. However, that being said in hindsight I should have started with DRW on an F350 in order to consistently safely tow the weight without constantly putting the fiver on a diet.
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It is absolutely a pain to find parking with a long bed dually, but we don't mind walking and parking at the far end of the lot. To me it is more piece of mind knowing I am being as safe as I can be with every option and safety device I can have including tire monitors, and Goodyear tires etc., that make my day. Parking is an after thought. I don't think anyone here said parking is a breeze in a dually. It's kind of nice, because when you do park at the far end if the lot, no one seems to want to park next to you because of how big your butt is, so door dings are more rare! :-)
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I don't find it to be much of an issue. The truck isn't wider than the mirrors which are the same on both the SRW and DRW. I will fold those in when parking. I actually chuckle quite often watching people struggle with small cars. The dually isn't a big as it seems. There is one single drive thru in town that I can go through, and again, it's the mirrors and not the wheels. Problem is, if I fold the mirrors then I can't keep an eye on the wheel wells. So, I don't go to the window to pay my electric bill. No big loss.
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As a police officer for 37 years I will agree with the last statement. The police rarely, if ever, mess with campers. But I stick to my previous statement about the issues of being over weight and court. Yes, the 250 will handle the trailer. You're pushing it but it will do the job. My point is IF/WHEN something does go wrong, then the numbers become very important. Don't you see all the commercials on TV from the "injury lawyers", "YOU DON'T PAY UNLESS WE GET YOU MONEY", or, "WE FIGHT FOR EVERY PENNY YOU DESERVE". Folks, if you are on the receiving end, even if you win your case, the attorney fees will wipe you out. And six or seven years of prepping for the case, then only to settle out of court.....well, not for me. IMHO, better safe than sorry. Either invest in a bigger truck or buy a lighter fiver.
I also am retired LEO (State Police). I totally agree you could have a problem if you are seriously overweight and cause an accident. However the chances are so extremely rare that it probably isn't worth worrying about. Most states that issue RV registrations don't have many restrictions like you would on a big truck registration and none of the commercial regulations apply to RV's. The chances of a Trooper or county Deputy trying to weigh a wrecked RV after an accident are extremely slim, and most local law enforcement wouldn't even know where a scale was located (not knocking local, I was one for 12 years also).

The main reason everyone should stay in weight limits is simply due to safety concerns. A loaded 40' Montana being towed doesn't stop on a dime even if it is being towed by a F450 dually, why make it worse by towing overweight.
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Old 03-11-2017, 01:25 PM   #34
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We bought a Montana HC 375FL last year and were pulling it with a 2015 Silverado 2500 with airbags. I scaled the rig twice and both times I was overweight on payload and GCVW. I was under on axle weight a hundred pounds or so. This was with dry tanks and packed for a 3-4 day trip with nothing additional in the bed of the truck. For this reason we limited our trips to a 60-90 mile radius of our house. I bit the bullet and upgraded to a 3500 SRW about a week ago. In April I will see what the handling difference will be.

For my family's safety and those around me the cost to upgrade is cheaper than any type of accident/injury and also adds some peace of mind. The rig you are looking at weighs significantly more than ours but it comes down to your comfort level being overloaded.

I would say the unit you are considering requires a DRW.
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Well all I can say Buckeye83 is you are likely going to be disappointed going from your 2015 2500 with air bags to your 3500 srw if you are expecting a handling difference as they are essentially the same truck in everyway other than two extra rear helper springs. A good friend of mine did the same thing last summer and he wish's he had his 2500hd with the airbags back as it handled his 39ft Titanium better than the 3500hd without. He had to add the airbags to get the 3500hd back handling the same. Pretty expensive upgrade for a sticker on the door in my view and his........

Hope you have different experience
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Well all I can say Buckeye83 is you are likely going to be disappointed going from your 2015 2500 with air bags to your 3500 srw if you are expecting a handling difference as they are essentially the same truck in everyway other than two extra rear helper springs. A good friend of mine did the same thing last summer and he wish's he had his 2500hd with the airbags back as it handled his 39ft Titanium better than the 3500hd without. He had to add the airbags to get the 3500hd back handling the same. Pretty expensive upgrade for a sticker on the door in my view and his........

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X-2....A lot of money for a different sticker.
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Old 03-19-2017, 05:22 PM   #37
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X-2....A lot of money for a different sticker.
A lot of money for the diff????? Last time I looked there was about $750 difference and you get over 1000 lbs more pin. It really is a no brainer if you haven't got the truck yet. Get the 350, the 250 you are way over. I have the HC and was over by a bunch. The 350 srw will work fine the 350 drw will be even better when driving. Yep you might have to walk a little bit more when going to the store.
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Um from what I can tell he already owns a truck so yes a lot of money difference.... He has to trade his in on a new truck for a sticker and a couple helper springs. The tax alone will run 3-4 grand.... not to mention the smack he'll take on his current TV trading it in....
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He did trade it in btw so all that money was for the sticker and a couple helper springs and really nothing accomplished and based on a couple of my buddy's experience's he might have stepped backward until he installs some airbags (more money) ..... that was the point of my post.....
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He did trade it in btw so all that money was for the sticker and a couple helper springs and really nothing accomplished and based on a couple of my buddy's experience's he might have stepped backward until he installs some airbags (more money) ..... that was the point of my post.....
Funny how you know exactly how much $$$ I lost. You know what they say about ASSuMING. Tax difference less than $700 and pd 10k (2015 vs 2016 sticker difference was 9k) in total difference including going from a gasser (with 25k miles) to a Duramax (with 100 miles and a 100k powertrain warranty). Only option I lost was heated steering wheel.

Also the rear axle ratings are different on 2500 and 3500 (850 pounds to be exact). You can read the manuals if you like. Regarding the airbags it is about $400 and an hour or two of work (not a big deal if necessary).
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