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09-30-2014, 01:52 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Elkhart Lake
Posts: 141
M.O.C. #12256
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Tire recommendations
After reading so many negative reports regarding the Marathons, I'm making a change before our long trip. I know many of you have recommended the more expensive G614's, however; many have also recommended other quality, but less expensive replacements. We have a 2013 Monty and the rim will allow a 235/85 R16, I just wanted to hear your other recommendations. Someone in the MOC forum reported that they had a whole list, but I couldn't find it. With so many different manufacturers and the laundry list of tires available, it gets confusing as to which ones are appropriate for a 5th wheeler.
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09-30-2014, 02:29 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Lake Gaston
Posts: 8,773
M.O.C. #12156
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We have been more than happy with Firestone TransForce LT tires.
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2002 3655 FL, 2005 3650RK
2010 3665RE, 2015 3910FB
F350 crew cab dually 6.7
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09-30-2014, 03:23 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Wilsey
Posts: 18,799
M.O.C. #11455
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Different Montana's weigh differently. Some are very heavy and some not so much. You need to know the actual weight of your rig with all your stuff inside and then get tires that can handle your weight. What works well for others is only a starting place, then the homework starts. One thing to consider is that the only thing between the rig and the ground is those tires. Not just going down the road, but parked for long periods of time, particularly if you store it all winter. With that in mind the G614's didn't look all that expensive to some of us.
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Dick, Joyce, Diego, Picatso and Gustav
2017 3720 RL, and 2013 HC 343RL
Pullrite Hitch, IS, Disk Brakes, 3rd AC, Winegard Traveler, Bathroom door mod, Dometic 320, couch for desk swap, replaced chairs, sun screens, added awnings, etc.
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09-30-2014, 03:32 AM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Stratford
Posts: 94
M.O.C. #12538
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Check your trailers weight rating.Some of the heavier trailers need to go with G614's
I've been using LT rated tires for 8 years have had no issues.
I changed them again last year to Duravis R500 because the old tires were starting to crack with age.
Here's a list with some budget costs. Canadian prices but you'll get the idea
LT235/85R16E
1. Michelin XPS Rib - $314.00 each.
2. Bridgestone Duravis R250 - $250.00 each.
3. Bridgestone Duravis R500 - $206.00 each.
4. Firestone Transforce H/T - $162.00 each.
5. BF Goodrich Commercial T/A - $188.00 each
HTH
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09-30-2014, 04:42 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Denver
Posts: 1,046
M.O.C. #5329
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I have used the Commercial T/A with excellent results. I'm thinking of putting them on my TV next time around.
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09-30-2014, 06:21 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Bridgewater
Posts: 1,196
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Lots of people here like to use the LT tires for their campers. It's an alternative to the expensive G614's. The load rating for the LT's is 3042. My axles are 7k, so that number doesn't compute for me. There is reserve capacity on LT tires, which apparently are speed rated at 106 mph, so the thinking is while traveling at normal speeds 60-70, there is more support under the trailer. At least that's how I understand it. There is also the consideration, mentioned above, about weighing your Montana and getting actual loaded-for-travel numbers. Most of us weekenders don't travel at full GVW, so an LT tire is a reasonable alternative. I'm sure I could have gotten by with these tires, but decided to go with G614's because they are rated above my axle capacity, giving me that peace of mind, and Goodyear gave me credit toward my Marathons. There are other G rated tires out there that are less pricey than the 614's. You can find plenty of information on this site about tires.
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2010 Montana 3455SA, Mor/Ryde pin, wet bolts, TST 507, Progressive HW50C, GY G614
2019 Silverado D/A 3500HD LTZ DRW CC
B&W Companion
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09-30-2014, 08:06 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Washington Coast
Posts: 2,688
M.O.C. #10696
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More and More of us are also going with Geostar LT G574 235/86/16 with a rating of #3750 I have 2 other SOB friends with them and they like them as well, Just another Option for ya, After trading in my Marathon's they cost me 900 bucks for all 4 including mounting and tax out the door
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09-30-2014, 08:36 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Lake Havasu City AZ.
Posts: 1,811
M.O.C. #10552
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I have a 2015 3582RL that I put Bridgestone Duravis R250 on when new. The tire store gave me $75.00 each for the Trail king it came with. My out the door price was $225.each.
I weighed the rig, and my loaded trailer axel (both axels) is 11,265lbs. When I say loaded we had been traveling for 2 weeks and the frig and pantry were fully stocked. Fresh water tank half full, black and gray thanks never empty. So the tires are good for this rig even though it can weigh out at 167000lbs. Of course that includes the pin weight of about 2600lbs. I guess we pack light but with the 10% safety factor built into the LT tires I feel much safer that with the ST tires. One more thing I NEVER drive over 65MPH and keep the tires at 80 psi. JMHO.
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2015 Ford F-350 King Ranch
Firestone air bags, bed saver.
Add 40 GAL tank in bed.
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10-01-2014, 05:10 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Livingston
Posts: 131
M.O.C. #11717
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We just installed a set of 4 Bridgstone Duravis R250 at Discount Tire, Ft. Collins, CO at $215 each 4 weeks ago.
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10-01-2014, 11:02 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Castle Rock
Posts: 248
M.O.C. #11369
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Put Carlisle Load range F tires on this summer-Discount tire-seem OK so far,trailer scales close to 15,000 so went to heavy load tire.3960
carry cap.
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10-02-2014, 05:41 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Grand Rapids
Posts: 1,896
M.O.C. #9561
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whatever tire you get make sure your wheel holds the higher air pressure. some wheels are only rated at 80psi
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10-05-2014, 08:09 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Fayetteville
Posts: 4,200
M.O.C. #11401
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G614s peace of mind.
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11-30-2014, 01:08 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Ocala
Posts: 38
M.O.C. #5292
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A late post on this thread...how do you tell what the pressure rating is on your rims? I'm running 235/80R 16's on factory wheels/rims.
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11-30-2014, 01:49 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: K.C.
Posts: 11,731
M.O.C. #5980
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Bill & Bobbi, it should be stamped on your rims
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11-30-2014, 02:42 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Wilsey
Posts: 18,799
M.O.C. #11455
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by Bill and Bobbi
A late post on this thread...how do you tell what the pressure rating is on your rims? I'm running 235/80R 16's on factory wheels/rims.
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You will probably have to crawl under it's normally stamped on the inside.
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Dick, Joyce, Diego, Picatso and Gustav
2017 3720 RL, and 2013 HC 343RL
Pullrite Hitch, IS, Disk Brakes, 3rd AC, Winegard Traveler, Bathroom door mod, Dometic 320, couch for desk swap, replaced chairs, sun screens, added awnings, etc.
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12-01-2014, 01:52 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Ocala
Posts: 38
M.O.C. #5292
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thanks, I have one off the rig already from a blow out last weekend. :-( Looking for replacement tires now...
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12-03-2014, 03:12 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Ocala
Posts: 38
M.O.C. #5292
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I never did see the psi rating on the wheel. Found made in china on it though. Wheel has the size and max load 3042# and some other stuff but not max psi. I am assuming the max load 3042 will correspond to 80 psi. This is a stock wheel on a 3400RL.
After reading tons on bad ST tires I am wondering which way to go. I have been running westlake 235/80 16 ST tires(made in China).They are rated for 3527# at 80 psi. I got the first 2 by necessity when I lost 2 missions on a trip, then matched the other 2 soon after. They are almost 5 years old so probably should have been replaced.They had low miles and looked fine. The tread separated 15 minutes into the trip last weekend.
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12-03-2014, 03:43 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Washington Coast
Posts: 2,688
M.O.C. #10696
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What year is your 3400RL Bill?, I do believe they started using rims that can handle 110 PSI in 2010- 2011??? my 2012 3402 had 110psi rims and I put 110 psi G rated 14 ply tires on them and glad I did as well as my even heavier 2015 Monty
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12-03-2014, 04:04 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Benson
Posts: 3,121
M.O.C. #1658
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If the wheels are rated for a max load of 3042 then they are only rated for 80psi
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