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03-04-2021, 12:39 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Eldersburg
Posts: 31
M.O.C. #28289
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Electrical Surge Protection
Hi everyone, I was curious what type of surge protection is used the most? Plug in protection or wired in EMS?
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03-04-2021, 01:21 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Kansas City, Missouri
Posts: 2,707
M.O.C. #7992
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Mine is hard wired. Pro's and con's to both.
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03-04-2021, 01:37 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Eldersburg
Posts: 31
M.O.C. #28289
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Thanks Jimcol!
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03-04-2021, 02:44 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Wilsey
Posts: 18,799
M.O.C. #11455
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Plug in Progressive EMS for both of our rigs.
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Dick, Joyce, Diego, Picatso and Gustav
2017 3720 RL, and 2013 HC 343RL
Pullrite Hitch, IS, Disk Brakes, 3rd AC, Winegard Traveler, Bathroom door mod, Dometic 320, couch for desk swap, replaced chairs, sun screens, added awnings, etc.
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03-04-2021, 03:16 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: Olathe
Posts: 65
M.O.C. #27598
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Given the level of clean 120V power needs in these new rigs, and the occasional voltage drop in some of the older campgrounds we have stayed at, we decided to go all out and acquire the Hughes Autoformers RV220-50SP Voltage Booster (with Surge Protection). Got it on sale at a more favorable price, so the delta $ to the surge protector we were looking at was a little more palatable. Plus, in this unit the surge protector is user-replaceable at very low expense, whereas you have to discard the others should they do their job just that once. And, yes, we were/are aware of the "controversy" regarding power boosters but we do believe Hughes' published arguments regarding their technology and why those concerns do not apply to their unit.
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2019 RAM 3500 DRW 4X4, HO Turbo Diesel, 4.10 Axle
B&W Companion 25K OEM Puck System
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03-04-2021, 07:43 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Jerome
Posts: 97
M.O.C. #19743
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RamMike
Hi everyone, I was curious what type of surge protection is used the most? Plug in protection or wired in EMS?
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Hardwired progressive industries here. Don’t have to worry about theft.
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03-04-2021, 08:45 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: POINTBLANK
Posts: 1,888
M.O.C. #19944
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Hardwire - like the ability to have the performance visible without blue tooth stuff
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Slide Toppers / EMS-HW50C / Sailun 85's
3rd AC / Dometic 320
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03-05-2021, 06:13 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Frostproof, FL USA
Posts: 2,362
M.O.C. #13272
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The first two rigs we had I did the hardwired. I'm sure the next owners are enjoying those. From then on I have had the plug in type. I have never had one stolen nor have I ever heard of or talked to anyone who has experienced that type of theft.
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Current: Full Time 2022 SOB TT Toy Hauler
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03-05-2021, 07:26 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Sebring
Posts: 3,659
M.O.C. #9969
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Hardwired Progressive with remote readout inside.
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2018 Chevy 3500HD High Country DRW 4X4 Crew Cab w/Duramax/Allison, Formally 2010 Montana 2955RL, Now Loaded 2016 SOB, Mor/ryde IS, Disc Brakes & Pin Box, Comfort Ride Hitch, Sailun 17.5 Tires.
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03-05-2021, 09:17 AM
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Established Member
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Eldersburg
Posts: 31
M.O.C. #28289
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Thanks everyone for the info! I purchased a Southwire 50 amp surge protection (wired) with the digital remote for my 2021 Montana HC 295RL. Did anyone install themselves? Or have dealer or electrician install?
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03-05-2021, 10:50 AM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Jerome
Posts: 97
M.O.C. #19743
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RamMike
Thanks everyone for the info! I purchased a Southwire 50 amp surge protection (wired) with the digital remote for my 2021 Montana HC 295RL. Did anyone install themselves? Or have dealer or electrician install?
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Self install
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03-05-2021, 07:12 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Sebring
Posts: 3,659
M.O.C. #9969
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Self installed
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2018 Chevy 3500HD High Country DRW 4X4 Crew Cab w/Duramax/Allison, Formally 2010 Montana 2955RL, Now Loaded 2016 SOB, Mor/ryde IS, Disc Brakes & Pin Box, Comfort Ride Hitch, Sailun 17.5 Tires.
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03-06-2021, 09:23 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Bastrop
Posts: 2,892
M.O.C. #20753
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Plug in surge guard
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03-06-2021, 10:45 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Omaha
Posts: 6,750
M.O.C. #7560
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Plug-in Hughes Autoformer EMS for us and I works great. I can even monitor from my cell phone if needed.
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03-10-2021, 01:39 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: Bencia
Posts: 538
M.O.C. #25828
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RamMike
Hi everyone, I was curious what type of surge protection is used the most? Plug in protection or wired in EMS?
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I use a 30 and 50 amp plug in surge protectors.
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03-10-2021, 01:44 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Summerville
Posts: 375
M.O.C. #8908
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Hardwired Progressive with remote
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2019 "3791RD" Montana - 2019 Chevy Duramax/Allison 3500 Crewcab
Summerville, South Carolina
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03-10-2021, 01:51 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Mountain Home
Posts: 121
M.O.C. #22661
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I put in a hard wired Progressive and installed a remote reader on the stair steps going to the front room, that allows me to read it from inside or just opening the front door from outside.
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Idaho, 2017 Montana HC 380, Cummins Onan Gen,Step Above Morey steps, Progressive 50 amp surge protector
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03-10-2021, 01:54 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Oct 2020
Location: Miami Lakes
Posts: 57
M.O.C. #27367
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My Montana came with one hardwired from factory (legacy). However, I realize it's redundancy, but I actually use both. I use the plug in one to scan the pedestal to make sure it's wired correctly. I did this before even thinking of plugging in my rig. If it's good, then I plug in. That's just me.
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03-10-2021, 02:59 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Olmsted Falls
Posts: 215
M.O.C. #20364
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Hardwired Surge Guard in ours and its saved us several times from faulty pedestals, no grounds and low voltage, 90v on one leg. Would never plug in anywhere without some protection.
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2024 3231CK, IS, 400W Solar, Slide covers, Predator Gen,, 2016 Chevy High Country 3500 Diesel Dually 
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03-10-2021, 03:39 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Goldbar, WA.
Posts: 168
M.O.C. #21854
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Hardwired Progressive 50amp EMS in both units. No concerns about theft. Dealer installed at purchase.
Be careful with surge protectors as they may not protect against low voltage, which (as I understand it) can be a huge risk for your electronics.
A few weeks ago my EMS triggered and cut power. Turns out we were only getting 104 volts on one bus and 105 on the other. That alone made me feel like this was money well spent.
(The facility manager confirmed the low voltage and "something" was done the next day which fixed it.)
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2022 Ford F-450 Limited Diesel Dually - B&W 25k Hitch
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