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08-26-2021, 06:53 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Jul 2021
Location: GLENDALE
Posts: 34
M.O.C. #29286
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DEF Platinum???
Has anybody been using DEF Platinum?
The manufacturer makes some pretty strong claims about how it is better for a vehicles emissions system and therefore worth double the cost of their standard product (which makes it about three times the cost of the bargain brand). It seems to me that it would be difficult to tell if its working better. A bit like Chevron fuel saying that it is better than whatever the grocery store has in their pumps, if they both get you there. Has anyone seen a measurable difference in fuel mileage, DEF consumption or anything else?
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08-26-2021, 07:43 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Roseville
Posts: 265
M.O.C. #25257
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I always fill mine at truck stops when getting fuel. I figure if the big rigs use it, so can I.
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Jim and Carole
Roseville, MN
2018 RAM 3500 DRW, Diesel, Long Box, Air Lift Bags - 2020 Montana HC 381TH, Sailun S637 |
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08-26-2021, 07:53 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Box Elder
Posts: 4,689
M.O.C. #12947
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They must be using a better grade of pee to make it.
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Bob & Becky
2012 3402RL
2012 Chevy 2500HD D/A CC 4WD
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08-26-2021, 08:02 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Roseville
Posts: 265
M.O.C. #25257
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funny!!
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Jim and Carole
Roseville, MN
2018 RAM 3500 DRW, Diesel, Long Box, Air Lift Bags - 2020 Montana HC 381TH, Sailun S637 |
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08-26-2021, 08:27 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Carmichael - CA
Posts: 7,356
M.O.C. #4831
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The composition is an ISO chemical standard that everyone has to meet. What makes theirs better?
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Carl (n Susan)
There is more to life than fuel mileage.
2012 Montana 3700RL Big Sky Package towed by a 2015 Ford F350 6.7L PSD 4WD CC LWB
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08-26-2021, 09:00 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: POINTBLANK
Posts: 1,887
M.O.C. #19944
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What I noticed on the DEF Platinum box: with continued use it would improve life of sensors ... stopped reading after that - Walmart Def was $7.00 for 2 1/2 gal.
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 RAM 22' DRW 3500 Crew LB 40 gal reserve tank / RETRAX Bed Cover / 2020 373RD HC / IS / MOPEKA Tank Monitor / Furrion Side&Rear Cameras
Slide Toppers / EMS-HW50C / Sailun 85's
3rd AC / Dometic 320
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08-26-2021, 09:01 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: POINTBLANK
Posts: 1,887
M.O.C. #19944
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Carl n Susan
The composition is an ISO chemical standard that everyone has to meet. What makes theirs better?
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Same as gasoline, additives
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RAM 22' DRW 3500 Crew LB 40 gal reserve tank / RETRAX Bed Cover / 2020 373RD HC / IS / MOPEKA Tank Monitor / Furrion Side&Rear Cameras
Slide Toppers / EMS-HW50C / Sailun 85's
3rd AC / Dometic 320
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08-27-2021, 05:34 AM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Feb 2021
Location: Abingdon
Posts: 97
M.O.C. #28111
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DEF is DEF. Whether you buy it from Walmart or Campers World. All DEF needs to meet Fed standards.
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2021 Montana 3121RL
2013 F350 6.7 CC LWB
W/Airlift airbags (front and rear)
B&W Companion hitch
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08-27-2021, 06:01 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: STUARTS DRAFT, VA
Posts: 140
M.O.C. #27830
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DEF in the truck lanes is fresher as they cycle through much more. You have no idea how long any DEF in a box has sat on the shelf or in a warehouse.
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John and Carrie
2021 Montana 3121RL Legacy
2020 F-250 Lariat 4X4 Short 3.55
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08-27-2021, 07:29 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Lake Gaston
Posts: 8,773
M.O.C. #12156
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Never have had a problem with off the shelf DEF.p
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Mike and Lorraine
2002 3655 FL, 2005 3650RK
2010 3665RE, 2015 3910FB
F350 crew cab dually 6.7
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08-27-2021, 08:07 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: McKinney
Posts: 7,154
M.O.C. #6433
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SCR deposits are a known problem with DEF solidifying and building up in the exhaust stream. How much of a problem is not clear, and not something I have heard much about. I think maybe more so for long haul OTR rigs. BlueDEF Platinum claims to reduce those deposits.
From their web site:
"BlueDEF Platinum is a mixture of high-purity synthetic urea, deionized water, and a proprietary formulation featuring the companies new Advanced System Shield Technology, which significantly reduces harmful deposits that commonly build up in modern diesel exhaust systems with SCR. With regular use, Old World said, these harmful deposits are significantly reduced, providing optimum fuel economy, saving money on costly repairs, and sustaining the life of the system."
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Bill & Patricia
Riley, our Golden
2007 3075RL (recently sold, currently without)
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08-27-2021, 08:15 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: McKinney
Posts: 7,154
M.O.C. #6433
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jjwhite368
DEF in the truck lanes is fresher as they cycle through much more. ........
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Truck stop DEF is never completely new. If storage tank is half full and they refill it, then it is 1/2 new and 1/2 old. Down to half and they fill it again and it is 1/2 new, 1/4 newest old, and 1/4 oldest old. Down to half and they fill it again and it is 1/2 new, 1/4 newest old, 1/8 next newest old, and 1/8 oldest old. And on and on it goes. Concentration of old diminishes over time but is never completely eliminated.  
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Bill & Patricia
Riley, our Golden
2007 3075RL (recently sold, currently without)
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08-27-2021, 09:03 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Florence
Posts: 945
M.O.C. #20472
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jjwhite368
DEF in the truck lanes is fresher as they cycle through much more. You have no idea how long any DEF in a box has sat on the shelf or in a warehouse.
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There is code on each box of def, it has date it was manufactures and what plant it came from.
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2018 Ram 3500 MegaCab 4x4 Aisin, 4:10 Gears
Titan 50 Gal Tank, Air Lift Wireless Bags
2017 3160 RL
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08-27-2021, 09:17 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2020
Location: UPLAND
Posts: 1,255
M.O.C. #26190
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I saw the platinum at my local store, saw the price difference and stayed with the regular stuff....
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2019 Keystone Montana 3560RL, 2020 Chevy 2500 HD, Firestone airbags, Air Lift wireless compressor, Curt gooseneck, 20K Reese Goosebox, TST-507, USMC combat vet & retired LEO. Robert, Anika, Breanna, Dylan (daughter-in-law Stephanie). & our Great Pyrenees Layla
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08-27-2021, 01:20 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 7,546
M.O.C. #2283
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When you see better, improved you need to ask better improved for who, me or the manufacturer. It may be I don’t know.
Lynwood
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08-27-2021, 05:22 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Anderson
Posts: 2,574
M.O.C. #22835
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You are paying extra for the packaging. That's all.
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Who you are right now is a sum total off all you use to be.
2019 Montana High Country 375FL
2014 Chevy Silverado Duramax, 6.6L Dually
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08-27-2021, 06:47 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Sebring
Posts: 3,657
M.O.C. #9969
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Well I put 115K on my '11 Duramax and currently have 30K on the '18 and about the only DEF either drank was Walmart Brand.
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Michelle & Ann
2018 Chevy 3500HD High Country DRW 4X4 Crew Cab w/Duramax/Allison, Formally 2010 Montana 2955RL, Now Loaded 2016 SOB, Mor/ryde IS, Disc Brakes & Pin Box, Comfort Ride Hitch, Sailun 17.5 Tires.
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08-27-2021, 07:39 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Austin
Posts: 2,407
M.O.C. #21044
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I used the Walmart DEF in my 2014 3500 SRW with no problems. The only thing I did not like was the poor fitting screw on spout. Finally gave up and bought a funnel…but lately the screw on spout seems to be improved and does not leak. At some point in the past few months the price went down from $7.88 to $6.88.
A couple of months ago I thought I was getting close to needing a DEF fill and I bought a jug at Walmart, put it in my hot garage. Weeks went by and no fill was needed until I made a short trip. Pulled into a Walmart I passed and filled it up for $6.88. I intend to use the one in the garage to pour and kill weeds on my fence line. At $6.88 I would rather use the fresher stuff from the store shelf.
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MikenDebbie Aggie ‘77 in the sticks near Austin TX
2019 Chevy 3500 High Country DRW
2018 Montana 3921FB
Aussie Gus + Texas Heeler Jimmy
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08-27-2021, 09:51 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Alton
Posts: 2,674
M.O.C. #24086
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I once found DEF on sale at a Wal-Mart (don't remember where, we were traveling). It was on sale for $3 for a box. Checked the date code, 2014.
Pass.
Always check the date code.
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Daryl and Marianne,
2019 3130re 20th Anniversary Edition
2016 F350 Lariat
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08-28-2021, 06:37 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Carson City
Posts: 2,017
M.O.C. #21963
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Daryles
I once found DEF on sale at a Wal-Mart (don't remember where, we were traveling). It was on sale for $3 for a box. Checked the date code, 2014.
Pass.
Always check the date code.
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Thx! I never thought to check the date.
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2016 3160, Legacy, Sailuns, Splendide 2100 xc vented, 1 1/2" axle lift blocks, disk brakes. 2014 Ram 3500 SRW SWB 4X4 6.7 Aisin Mega Cab, EBC slotted disks and brakes, Titan fuel tank.
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