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01-30-2011, 03:58 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Eau Claire
Posts: 62
M.O.C. #10907
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8 Ft Bed and Slider Hitch
Getting closer to my truck purchase by the day. Since moving up to the DRW model I discovered you cannot have the Short Bed. I'd planned to buy a slider hitch, but now wonder if it is necessary.
Is there any benefit to have a slider with a long bed?
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01-30-2011, 04:01 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Casa Grande
Posts: 5,369
M.O.C. #6333
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Don't see the need for a slider in our long bed, DRW, Chevy.....Plenty of room. Spend money on something else or put aside for fuel!!!!!!!!!
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01-30-2011, 04:10 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Murrieta
Posts: 5,816
M.O.C. #9257
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No benefit whatsoever. Like Phil suggests save your dollars for other mods.
I wonder that with a long bed, the wheel base is already back a ways and putting the pin load farther back might cause undue stress. Does anyone know?
I also wonder if you already own the slider, rather than spending money on buying a fixed hitch, is there a way to install the slider hitch then lock it down so it never slides?
Bottom line - sliders are only needed on short beds and some don't do that. Warning - I have seen plenty of short beds with cab damage who tow 5ers.
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01-30-2011, 04:47 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Santa Fe Springs
Posts: 4,189
M.O.C. #639
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My sister got a new f350 LB DRW and she used her old slider off her old truck and had it reinstalled, it does not do anything and if it does like on a tight turn it does move a little but not like it did in the short bed she used to have. as exav8tr stated use the money some where else, maybe another fuel tank which we will all need soon the way things are going in the middle east.
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Pulling a 2004, 2980 RL an oldie but goodie.
Tow vehicle is a 2009 RED RAM 3500 DRW.
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01-30-2011, 11:36 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: New Bern
Posts: 4,372
M.O.C. #8728
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A regular hitch in a long bed truck will do just fine. I agree with the others, spend the extra money somewhere else.
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01-31-2011, 12:36 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2006
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by jmi
Getting closer to my truck purchase by the day. Since moving up to the DRW model I discovered you cannot have the Short Bed. I'd planned to buy a slider hitch, but now wonder if it is necessary.
Is there any benefit to have a slider with a long bed?
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I thought all 3 auto makers had the DRW in a short bed version now?
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01-31-2011, 12:56 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: corning
Posts: 694
M.O.C. #6635
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If you put boats on top of your truck, the slider would help keep the canoe ends farther away from the camper.
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01-31-2011, 01:16 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Millbury
Posts: 188
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Will, I just checked the Ford website to verify what I thought. Ford does NOT offer a shortbed in DRW trucks.
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01-31-2011, 01:21 AM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Eau Claire
Posts: 62
M.O.C. #10907
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by SlickWillie
Quote:
quote:Originally posted by jmi
Getting closer to my truck purchase by the day. Since moving up to the DRW model I discovered you cannot have the Short Bed. I'd planned to buy a slider hitch, but now wonder if it is necessary.
Is there any benefit to have a slider with a long bed?
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I thought all 3 auto makers had the DRW in a short bed version now?
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In the case of the Ford 2011 F-350 Superduty select DRW on the website and the bed moves from 6 3/4 to 8 ft.
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01-31-2011, 01:30 AM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Eau Claire
Posts: 62
M.O.C. #10907
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by camper4
If you put boats on top of your truck, the slider would help keep the canoe ends farther away from the camper.
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Good point, I do have a 12ft Hobbie Kayak. The only roof carrier I've seen uses a receiver on the front end with a roof rack on the TV. Having a slider would help in this situation.
We considered this rack, but decided the new Hobbie inflatable is a better option for us. Have to recover from the TV & Monty purchase before that becomes reality.
Thanks everyone for the excellent feedback.
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01-31-2011, 01:35 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Sebring
Posts: 3,659
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Chevy DRW is also a long bed, Short bed only in the 1 Ton SRW version. Standard hitch here with no problems plenty of clearance
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2018 Chevy 3500HD High Country DRW 4X4 Crew Cab w/Duramax/Allison, Formally 2010 Montana 2955RL, Now Loaded 2016 SOB, Mor/ryde IS, Disc Brakes & Pin Box, Comfort Ride Hitch, Sailun 17.5 Tires.
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01-31-2011, 03:10 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2006
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M.O.C. #6575
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by mhs4771
Chevy DRW is also a long bed, Short bed only in the 1 Ton SRW version. Standard hitch here with no problems plenty of clearance
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That would be a deal killer for me, Ford or GM dually. I just don't want a long bed truck. No desire to drive a vehicle the length of a school bus around.
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01-31-2011, 03:36 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Adirondack
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When I went from a short bed to my current long bed I just moved my SuperGlide slider to the new truck since I already owned it. It is not necessary for cab clearence but it does allow me to stow two bicycles crosswise on top of my truck box behind the rear window.
I wouldn't buy one just for the bikes but since I already had it it works great.
Regarding Arts question ref. stress to the truck suspension, according to my Ford rep. the stress is actually a little less because of the longer forward fulcrum.
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01-31-2011, 03:59 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Sebring
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Come on Will, it's only a small School Bus..also depends on which cab, reg, extended, or crew. Once you get used to it, it's a piece of cake. Just have to remember if people park next to you (which seems they do even when you're parked on the far side of the lot) is to pull out a ways before starting you're turn. Almost lost a fender when I first got my 2005 Dually.
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2018 Chevy 3500HD High Country DRW 4X4 Crew Cab w/Duramax/Allison, Formally 2010 Montana 2955RL, Now Loaded 2016 SOB, Mor/ryde IS, Disc Brakes & Pin Box, Comfort Ride Hitch, Sailun 17.5 Tires.
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01-31-2011, 06:18 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Land O Lakes
Posts: 2,783
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Agree with others, you do not need a slide hitch with a long bed truck.
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01-31-2011, 08:06 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 143
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by camper4
If you put boats on top of your truck, the slider would help keep the canoe ends farther away from the camper.
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I assume you mean when turning to park at a site. All slider hitches are designed to only tow in the ahead position. The rear position is only meant for the slow speed, sharp maneuvers needed in parking and otherwise moving the trailer. Towing in the rear position places the weight too far back on the truck and on the hitch sliding rails for safe towing.
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02-02-2011, 02:22 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Rapid City
Posts: 739
M.O.C. #77
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My 2-cents worth. My first TV was a short-bed with a superslider hitch that weighed over 300 pounds. When I changed to a long-bed, I went with the B&W Turn-Over Ball Companion Hitch. Now, I can remove the hitch in about 10 minutes by myself and either have a clean bed or use the ball for a goose-neck. I spend a good bit of time helping family (make that extended family) do projects, so the ability to tow a regular cargo trailer, gooseneck trailer, and 5th wheel trailer (not at the same time) makes my setup perfect (for me).
Re-install of the hitch takes about 15 minutes because of having to torque the pull down bolt and u-bolts. Still...it is the best set-up for MY purposes.
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02-02-2011, 03:30 AM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: hopewell
Posts: 98
M.O.C. #9444
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hello
i have own 4 LB trks and never a window problem. i installed a bike rack on the front of the hitch and still had room for turning.
gene.
presently in bushnell,fl.
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02-02-2011, 03:40 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Ore City Texas
Posts: 1,648
M.O.C. #2224
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Just to jump in here and say that my choice is a long bed -- no matter other factors; but, of course, I use the pickup as a pickup, not only as a tow vehicle. I have found no problems in driving and parking, though I do keep in mind the dimensions. Mine is a single rear wheel (again my choice) and a great tow vehicle as well as a utility truck around the homeplace.
Different strokes for different folks, keeps everyone happy -- with themselves and with their neighbors.
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02-04-2011, 07:02 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Oceanside
Posts: 20,028
M.O.C. #20
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The only time I'd put a slider in a long bed is if I already owned the slider and didn't want to spend money for a different hitch. The slider won't hurt anything, it's just not necessary.
We originally went shortbed because it fit in our garage. We had big shelving in the garage, reducing depth. We have stayed with shortbeds simply because they're much more maneuverable both in parking lots and on the backroads and 4x4 roads we like to explore. The auto slider works very well. To me, the choice between shortbed and longbed is a personal one that requires understanding how one plans to use the truck. Longbed is Padre's choice. Shortbed is ours. Both of us are correct.
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