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08-23-2010, 03:19 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Texico
Posts: 1,917
M.O.C. #6150
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Greg,
The maximum weight of your trailer when loaded, according to the plackard, should not exceed 14225 pounds. If you subtract 2845 pounds ( 20% ) for pin weight, you are left with 11380 pounds on the axles. Divide that number by four and you get 2845 pounds per tire. Yes, I still think the LT tire rated for 3042 pounds is a good choice.
I would agree with NCFischers, you need to get an actual weight so you know exactly what the trailer weighs at the axles. Do this when loaded with everything you would normally carry. This will let you know if you need to move or remove items to stay within the limits of the axles and tires.
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08-23-2010, 04:18 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location:
Posts: 2,376
M.O.C. #6575
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quote:Originally posted by Clemson1881
The forum used to have another great tire expert as well as Lonnie. What happened to Fast Eagle???????????
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He's probably over on the big board advising everyone they need the ST tires on their units. Of course, he goes through many, many ST tires himself. It is rumored he represents some ST manufacturer. There's a couple guys like him over there. The other one pulls a lightweight TT, and thinks China made ST tires are great. I didn't even have any luck with them on a TT, much less on a heavier fifth wheel.
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08-23-2010, 03:11 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: sound beach
Posts: 51
M.O.C. #10647
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I thankyou for all the help.I will try to get weight after montaineer gets fixed.One more question should i buy tires now or wait till spring??
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08-23-2010, 03:23 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: New Bern
Posts: 4,372
M.O.C. #8728
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Gregg,
My tires looked fine until one exploded. If it was me with what I know now, I'd get rid of those pieces of crap as soon as possible.
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08-23-2010, 04:04 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Sebring
Posts: 3,659
M.O.C. #9969
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It may be overkill, but I had GY 614s installed this AM. We plan on doing a lot more traveling (have logged over 3000 miles on various trips already this summer) and was always watching the mirrors for any signs of flying rubber. The difference between the Marthons and the 614's is like comparing a bicycle tire to a big rig tire. All 5 were made in USA on 1029 so they are only about a month old. We will now travel feeling a little better.
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2018 Chevy 3500HD High Country DRW 4X4 Crew Cab w/Duramax/Allison, Formally 2010 Montana 2955RL, Now Loaded 2016 SOB, Mor/ryde IS, Disc Brakes & Pin Box, Comfort Ride Hitch, Sailun 17.5 Tires.
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08-23-2010, 04:59 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Colorado Springs
Posts: 3,335
M.O.C. #10496
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Great. I've owned my Montana for 2 months and after reading all this I now have nightmares about exploding Marathon tires and having to spend $1400 on new 614s. I can just hear DW now when I tell her that we need new tires because the ones installed by the manufacturer are POS. Sheeeesh!
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LevelUp, Dual 6 volt batteries, Progressive Industries EMS HW50C, Honda EU2000i Generator, Bridgestone Duravis R250 tires, Torklift Glowstep Revolution Stairs, LED Tail lights
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08-23-2010, 05:35 PM
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#27
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Casa Grande
Posts: 5,369
M.O.C. #6333
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quote:Originally posted by NCFischers
Goodyear G614 tires have a minimum rim width of 6.5 inches. The rims on our trailers are 6 inches. To be safe and remain in specs, the rims would also need to be replaced. I just replaced my Marathons (what was left of them) with BF Goodrich Commercial TA tires.
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Jim, I was told by several tire dealers that the 1/2 inch difference in width of wheel would make no difference, that's why I went with the 614's on the stock tredit wheels. In fact, Tredit recommended them also. Don't mean to be contrary but I don't think I would tell folks that...
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08-24-2010, 12:47 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: New Bern
Posts: 4,372
M.O.C. #8728
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Phil,
I"m not telling people what to do, I was only stating the numbers on the spec sheet that Goodyear put out for the tires. I'm not a tire guy and if others more knowledgable than me say it's ok to mount them on six inch rims then so be it. Personally, I would replace the rims but that would be my choice.
Jim
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08-24-2010, 06:43 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Goldsboro
Posts: 288
M.O.C. #9143
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quote:Originally posted by CORattler
Great. I've owned my Montana for 2 months and after reading all this I now have nightmares about exploding Marathon tires and having to spend $1400 on new 614s. I can just hear DW now when I tell her that we need new tires because the ones installed by the manufacturer are POS. Sheeeesh!
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CO - how lucky do you feel? I towed my Mountaineer fiver for 6 years before the first China bomb blew. I've had my Montana for one year when the first one failed. Who knows when they will fail (they will though!) This rig is significantly heavier, longer, and more expensive than my last one and I'm not willing to risk it, hence the brand new BFG Commercial TAs sitting on it right now ($600, mounted and balanced for 4). Good luck with your decision.
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08-25-2010, 09:07 AM
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Established Member
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Victoria
Posts: 25
M.O.C. #10191
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Our new 5er arrived yesterday at the dealers with the "comchi willpops". We will be changing them to the G614's. Our previous 5er, a "SOB" had the G614's on it and they had 50000 miles (80000 km) when we traded it. There was about 30000 miles left on them. They ran very good.
Ken
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