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02-16-2021, 04:19 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Florence
Posts: 945
M.O.C. #20472
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Found Our Cold Weather Limits
On Sunday afternoon the park water froze up, I put a bucket over it with 100w Halogen flood light, to thaw the hydrant pipe. Ran up to Wally World and bought a bunch of gallons of water for the toilet and dishes. Did not thaw out Sunday so today I went to Lowe’s and bought a 250w Halogen work light and aimed it to the ground and covered it with a 5 gallons Lowe’s bucket to thaw the ground where the hydrant pipe come out of the ground.
Success...... water is now flowing at the park faucet, well it still has not coming out of the 5th faucets. Went in the basement and took the panel off to get behind the convenience center and the pecks pipes where slightly froze. Yes the furnace is on and my ceramic heater is on, anyways I put my ceramic heater and directed the heat towards the pump and pipes and after two days we have water once again. I guess subzero weather is its limits, oh and now all 3 of my tank valves are froze so I can’t open them
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02-17-2021, 04:12 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 357
M.O.C. #21337
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DadsHemi
On Sunday afternoon the park water froze up, I put a bucket over it with 100w Halogen flood light, to thaw the hydrant pipe. Ran up to Wally World and bought a bunch of gallons of water for the toilet and dishes. Did not thaw out Sunday so today I went to Lowe’s and bought a 250w Halogen work light and aimed it to the ground and covered it with a 5 gallons Lowe’s bucket to thaw the ground where the hydrant pipe come out of the ground.
Success...... water is now flowing at the park faucet, well it still has not coming out of the 5th faucets. Went in the basement and took the panel off to get behind the convenience center and the pecks pipes where slightly froze. Yes the furnace is on and my ceramic heater is on, anyways I put my ceramic heater and directed the heat towards the pump and pipes and after two days we have water once again. I guess subzero weather is its limits, oh and now all 3 of my tank valves are froze so I can’t open them
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wow, this sounds awful.
What Temperatures you are in?
Mike
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02-17-2021, 05:08 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Northville, NY
Posts: 807
M.O.C. #21158
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Our first year in this 5er on the first cold night our pipes all froze behind the CC. When I opened it up to check it I could see daylight below all the pipes. There was an open space between the frame and J-wrap where the factory had neglected to insulate. I stuffed a piece of foam there and put a heat gun to work and thawed it out in about two hours. Haven't had a problem since. I usually keep a remote thermostat sender down there and it usually runs about 60 in that area now. The furnace is right next to it.
I had already put heat tape on the spigot pipe from the valve to just below the ground line. This is a private site so I can do that. If you're in a camp ground and know the temp is going below freezing it's best to shut off the city water at the spigot and use onboard water till it warms up.
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2017 Lariat F-350 FX4, CC, SB, 6.7 PSD 4WD
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02-17-2021, 05:12 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Florence
Posts: 945
M.O.C. #20472
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Quote:
Originally Posted by suny07
wow, this sounds awful.
What Temperatures you are in?
Mike
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Day time it’s been an average of 8 to 10 degrees, but Sunday night and Monday night had a low of -12. It’s going to start warming up today and by the weekend back in the 40s
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02-17-2021, 06:57 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Marion
Posts: 234
M.O.C. #22281
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I got through 0 degrees when fulltiming while working at the refinery, but only for a few days. Ended up having to cap off the lines to my outside shower in the back because it would always freeze first and then leak.
If I had to fullltime in cold weather again I would hire an outfit to come out and skirt my rv, probably about 3 grand.
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02-17-2021, 09:56 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Ore City Texas
Posts: 1,648
M.O.C. #2224
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We are having similar historic weather here in Northeast Texas (Longview--Tyler area).
My main purpose of this post is to say that I wish our identity would include states. How many "Marions" are there or "Florences". Big difference between Buffalo, Texas and Buffalo, NY.
Has anyone else wished for this?
View of our country home with 8 inches of snow--in my 88 years have never seen this much snow or below zero ( -4 ) temperature, OR below 32 degrees for a week continuously.
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02-17-2021, 10:10 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Ore City Texas
Posts: 1,648
M.O.C. #2224
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http://dwilliamson.com/snow245.jpgThis is a link to view of our country home
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02-17-2021, 10:18 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jan 2021
Location: Coloma, Wisconsin
Posts: 202
M.O.C. #28036
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Be real, our trailers maybe rated for zero degrees but that doesn't come without many thought out & advance preparations. Maybe a night or two you will get lucky without freezing up but any prolonged expectations of staying frost free without adequate preparations can become very costly. I survived the entire winter last year in Northern Wisconsin and believe me it was alot of work & very stressful at times. It is doable with sacrifices but not as easy as some may lead you to believe. If severe cold is expected sometimes it is best to drain and prep your system for that particular time frame. Frozen lines, faucets, valves & other fixtures become costly & can be avoided with a well thought out advance plan.
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2019 3121RL 35 ft., 2020 3500 Dodge Ram SRW, Cummins 6.7 HO, Air Bags - Air Lift BT Wireless Compressor, Coloma, Wisconsin
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02-17-2021, 12:23 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 20,229
M.O.C. #2839
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Our Goal when we started long timing was to tour our great county and stay out of cold weather. We have done so since 2006.The coldest we saw was a few days in Florida during the winter several years ago when it was in the mid 20's for 2 or 3 days. We stayed in Northern Ohio this winter. It was 5 degrees this morning and 26 degrees now. We are warm and toasty in our S&B. The Montana alongside the S&B is covered in snow with the entrance door frozen shut. It will not move till maybe April
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02-17-2021, 01:11 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Carmichael - CA
Posts: 7,366
M.O.C. #4831
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Quote:
Originally Posted by padredw
....My main purpose of this post is to say that I wish our identity would include states. How many "Marions" are there or "Florences". Big difference between Buffalo, Texas and Buffalo, NY.
Has anyone else wished for this?......
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Actually as you have discovered, one can put the full name of your location, including the state in the "Your City" entry in a Profile. But not everyone realizes this and probably assume the next field "State" is propagated to the left pane of any post. It would be handy to have the "State" field show up as I too have had to look a user's profiles to see which Buffalo is actual.
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There is more to life than fuel mileage.
2012 Montana 3700RL Big Sky Package towed by a 2015 Ford F350 6.7L PSD 4WD CC LWB
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02-17-2021, 03:16 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Northville, NY
Posts: 807
M.O.C. #21158
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Quote:
Originally Posted by padredw
We are having similar historic weather here in Northeast Texas (Longview--Tyler area).
My main purpose of this post is to say that I wish our identity would include states. How many "Marions" are there or "Florences". Big difference between Buffalo, Texas and Buffalo, NY.
Has anyone else wished for this?
View of our country home with 8 inches of snow--in my 88 years have never seen this much snow or below zero ( -4 ) temperature, OR below 32 degrees for a week continuously.
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Actually, this week I'm thinking there is very little difference between Buffalo TX and Buffalo NY except they probably have more snow plows in NY.
As you can see, I've added my state to the city line in my profile. I recommend everyone do that.
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2017 Lariat F-350 FX4, CC, SB, 6.7 PSD 4WD
2018 MONTY 3731FL, at our private winter site in GA
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02-18-2021, 06:04 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Florence
Posts: 945
M.O.C. #20472
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Not really, we’re not home very much being we travel for my job. In the 3-1/2 years I’ve been on this Forum this has never been a topic, I would gather some choose not too like me.
Anyways, the weather is looking up here in Arkansas from today forward, everyone be safe out their.
My main purpose of this post is to say that I wish our identity would include states. How many "Marions" are there or "Florences". Big difference between Buffalo, Texas and Buffalo, NY.
Has anyone else wished for this?
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02-18-2021, 09:39 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Ore City Texas
Posts: 1,648
M.O.C. #2224
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Hi neighbor in Florence, ARKANSAS! We are about 70 miles southwest of Texarkana. Hope you are getting a break from the weather by this weekend.
Or maybe you are in Arkansas and Florence is NOT ? ? ?
Probably one more really cold night--tonight (Thursday) then a heat wave all the way up to 50 degrees.
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02-18-2021, 11:28 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: STAYTON
Posts: 1,118
M.O.C. #18157
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Would your tank heaters thaw the dump valves out I wonder?
Mark
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02-18-2021, 02:21 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Florence
Posts: 945
M.O.C. #20472
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Quote:
Originally Posted by padredw
Hi neighbor in Florence, ARKANSAS! We are about 70 miles southwest of Texarkana. Hope you are getting a break from the weather by this weekend.
Or maybe you are in Arkansas and Florence is NOT ? ? ?
Probably one more really cold night--tonight (Thursday) then a heat wave all the way up to 50 degrees.
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Today is a great day and looking up, finally above freezing @34. Still the early am will be about 10 degrees but that’s better then -12 like it was Sunday/Monday.
Working in Fort Smith, and your right NOT lol
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02-18-2021, 02:26 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Florence
Posts: 945
M.O.C. #20472
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Originally Posted by MARK A
Would your tank heaters thaw the dump valves out I wonder?
Mark
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No they did not, I had to add RV/ Marine antifreeze to all the tanks and then hot water, got my restroom take working yesterday and finally got my Black tank and galley tank working. I added a gallon to each tank in hopes not to have this issue again, and keeping 6 gallons as spares for those just encase moments.
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02-21-2021, 01:22 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Tustin Calif
Posts: 73
M.O.C. #18958
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I’m up in the snow below freezing many times a season..Stay self contained in below freezing weather as much as possible..
Keep your dump valves closed and fresh water tank full and disconnect.. the water house and waste hose will transfer the cold to the tanks and belly of the beast..which should be otherwise heated by the furnace or installed tank heaters
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02-21-2021, 07:33 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Peru
Posts: 85
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We were full timers from 1988 through 92 in the Dallas area and our first freezing temperatures gave up a big wake up. Found out try not to have your utilities facing north and in the shade all day. Keep the drivers side in the sun to let the sun keep it warm. We would open the tanks when a freeze would be forecasted. Also we put a heat tape on the water line and had the hose in pipe insulation. We would use two space heaters with one plugged into the pedestal via an extension cord. We also went out and bought some fiberglass insulation in would insulate areas in that compartment. The furnace does keep your tanks from freezing, but that first TT the tanks were exposed.
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