Journey with Confidence RV GPS App RV Trip Planner RV LIFE Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Take a Speed Test Free 7 Day Trial ×
 

Go Back   Montana Owners Club - Keystone Montana 5th Wheel Forum > GENERAL DISCUSSIONS > TIRES, Montana Tires
Click Here to Login

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 01-12-2021, 06:28 PM   #1
Ram-X
Established Member
 
Ram-X's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: Morrice
Posts: 11
M.O.C. #27019
Are Sailun Tires Standard

Hello to all Montana owners
This is my first attempt to post a message and question.
Has anyone purchased a 2021 without Sailun tires as standard equipment?
We purchased 2021 High Country 295RL in August of 2020. From my understanding all Montana’s come with Sailun tires as standard equipment and I saw a video of a 2020 with Sailun tires standard. My Montana came with Trailer King. Is there a way to have this problem can be rectified
 
Ram-X is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2021, 06:51 PM   #2
Mikendebbie
Montana Master
 
Mikendebbie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Austin
Posts: 2,390
M.O.C. #21044
My Legacy unit came with Rainier G rated tires. When we bought it in January 2018 I did not know about Saliuns. The time to get it taken care of is when you buy and before you pull it off the lot. You can try to horse-trade with your dealer to get some Saliuns installed at a cheaper than retail price. I don’t know what other options you have other than just outright buying them yourself. You pulled it off the lot as is...I think it’s done.

I recently put saliuns on my rig. I had no issues with the rainiers...two years and 15,000 miles...but the sidewalls were showing some crazing cracks - so it was time. I bought the Saliuns from simple tire.com and had the mounted by Discount Tire.
__________________
MikenDebbie Aggie ‘77 in the sticks near Austin TX
2019 Chevy 3500 High Country DRW
2018 Montana 3921FB
Aussie Gus + Texas Heeler Jimmy
Mikendebbie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2021, 06:58 PM   #3
JDDilly
Montana Fan
 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Roseville
Posts: 265
M.O.C. #25257
We have a 2020 HC 381TH and it doesn't have Sailun tires. I cannot remember what is on it, but they are not Sailun. It is on my list to change them.
__________________

Jim and Carole
Roseville, MN
2018 RAM 3500 DRW, Diesel, Long Box, Air Lift Bags - 2020 Montana HC 381TH, Sailun S637
JDDilly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2021, 06:58 PM   #4
Carl n Susan
Site Team
 
Carl n Susan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Carmichael - CA
Posts: 7,323
M.O.C. #4831
Montanas come with Sailuns. The High Country is a different trailer and does *NOT* come with Sailuns. Just one of many differences between the two.
__________________
Carl (n Susan)
There is more to life than fuel mileage.
2012 Montana 3700RL Big Sky Package towed by a 2015 Ford F350 6.7L PSD 4WD CC LWB

Carl n Susan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2021, 07:10 PM   #5
PNW Fireguy
Montana Master
 
PNW Fireguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Arlington
Posts: 1,522
M.O.C. #18081
During our factory tour at the 2019 rally Sailuns were OEM tires on the production line.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_3506.jpg
Views:	83
Size:	207.9 KB
ID:	8246   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_3507.jpg
Views:	88
Size:	230.4 KB
ID:	8247   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_3508.jpg
Views:	89
Size:	218.8 KB
ID:	8248  
__________________
SOB
2015 Volvo VNL780 D13, iShift, 32k ET air hitch, Idle Free LiFePO4 APU
16.8KWhr LiFePO4, 2.52 kw solar, 10kva Victron split phase
PNW Fireguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2021, 07:20 PM   #6
AZ Traveler
Site Team
 
AZ Traveler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Oro Valley
Posts: 3,898
M.O.C. #20477
If you look at the Montana website:

High Country comes with - Premium 12-ply F-rated tires w/ 6-year manufacturer warranty & Tredit Care Plus roadside assistance.

Montana comes with - Premium Sailun G-rated tires w/ 6-year manufacturer warranty & Tredit Care Plus roadside assistance
__________________
Zack and Donna plus Millie and Ranger
2018 3160RL

"Life is too short to stay indoors, enjoy the ride!"
AZ Traveler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2021, 08:08 PM   #7
Rlates
Established Member
 
Rlates's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: Fort Walton Beach
Posts: 39
M.O.C. #27686
Our 2021 295RL was purchased in Nov 2020. It came with Trailer King 12 ply.
Rlates is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2021, 09:14 PM   #8
Theunz
Montana Master
 
Theunz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Catoosa
Posts: 772
M.O.C. #18384
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carl n Susan View Post
Montanas come with Sailuns. The High Country is a different trailer and does *NOT* come with Sailuns. Just one of many differences between the two.
I think perhaps some buyers don’t realize that they are not the same, and I’m sure many salespeople gloss over that fact in order to make a sale. Just like it’s Cadillac by GM and Buick by GM, it should say High Country by Montana.
__________________
2015 3100RL legacy...2005 Ford F-250 CC SB. Tows like a charm! 4/19 Updated to 2017 Chevy 3500 CC SB SRW -hope it tows as well as my F 250 did!
Theunz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2021, 07:18 AM   #9
CalandLinda
Montana Master
 
CalandLinda's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Taylors
Posts: 562
M.O.C. #15948
This question is running in two different threads.

Nowhere in the governing regulations or tire industry standards will you find reference to brand names. All RV trailer tires are fitted to the trailer certified GAWRs by designated size and load capacity. Currently the load capacity being fitted to new trailers is 10% above GAWR. In other words, a trailer with 7000# vehicle certified axles will have tires that provide 3850# of load capacity, each.

In the past, Keystone has been known to offer optional tire sizes by brand name. The most popular one was the GY G614, having an LT in its designated size. At the time those options were offered, GY was the only tire manufacturer building that designated size. However, when optional tire sizes are used, the change MUST be done prior to first sale. Vehicle certification requires tires fitted to the vehicle to be the same designated size as those depicted on the federal certification label at the time of first sale.
CalandLinda is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2021, 07:42 AM   #10
Ram-X
Established Member
 
Ram-X's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: Morrice
Posts: 11
M.O.C. #27019
Thanks for all the info, Sailun or Goodyear are the way to go. We had a blow out on our last rig and it wasn’t fun. Love the 295RL but I am going to have to get use to the height
Ram-X is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2021, 09:02 AM   #11
beeje
Montana Master
 
beeje's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: westminster md
Posts: 2,318
M.O.C. #17894
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ram-X View Post
Hello to all Montana owners
This is my first attempt to post a message and question.
Has anyone purchased a 2021 without Sailun tires as standard equipment?
We purchased 2021 High Country 295RL in August of 2020. From my understanding all Montana’s come with Sailun tires as standard equipment and I saw a video of a 2020 with Sailun tires standard. My Montana came with Trailer King. Is there a way to have this problem can be rectified
Yes, it can be rectified easily. Simply remove around $800 from your pocket and insert into a tire dealers hands and instruct them to install 5 new Sailun tires. LOL

One thing is for certain, you will be sorry if you don't do it when a trailer king tire blows and destroys your trailer.
__________________
2018 Chevy 3500 LTZ Dually Diesel 4x4 CCLB
2011 Montana 3455 SA. 6 point level up. Disc brakes. Curt Q24 Hitch. 5 step glow steps
Progressive EMS. Valterra tank valves. Sailun G637 tires. ARP fridge control. All led lighting. Mor Ryde IS
beeje is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2021, 02:24 PM   #12
CalandLinda
Montana Master
 
CalandLinda's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Taylors
Posts: 562
M.O.C. #15948
Quote:
Originally Posted by beeje View Post
Yes, it can be rectified easily. Simply remove around $800 from your pocket and insert into a tire dealers hands and instruct them to install 5 new Sailun tires. LOL

One thing is for certain, you will be sorry if you don't do it when a trailer king tire blows and destroys your trailer.
There are lots of different stories about tire quality. Here is another side of one of the stories.

https://www.rvweb.net/best-trailer-tires-reviewed/
CalandLinda is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2021, 03:02 PM   #13
wed
Montana Master
 
wed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: woodstock
Posts: 541
M.O.C. #8174
Not sure about high country but you will want to trade out of the trailer kings
__________________
Ed
Montana Master
Woodstock Ga
2020 3931 FB Legacy
wed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2021, 03:53 PM   #14
Carl n Susan
Site Team
 
Carl n Susan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Carmichael - CA
Posts: 7,323
M.O.C. #4831
Quote:
Originally Posted by CalandLinda View Post
There are lots of different stories about tire quality. Here is another side of one of the stories.

https://www.rvweb.net/best-trailer-tires-reviewed/

Lets see - he lists 10 brands, discounts most of them for rumors of tread separation sidewall deflection, and cost (he claims the Maxxis is too expensive at $95.00). Most were Load Range D tires and some are 5 hole rim specific. None of them approach the capacity needed by a Montana. And then he omits Sailun and Goodyear (both the G614 and the Endurance) which are well respected tires. Me thinks he was incentivized for his opinions.
__________________
Carl (n Susan)
There is more to life than fuel mileage.
2012 Montana 3700RL Big Sky Package towed by a 2015 Ford F350 6.7L PSD 4WD CC LWB

Carl n Susan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2021, 09:13 PM   #15
Ram Montana High Country
Montana Master
 
Ram Montana High Country's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: POINTBLANK
Posts: 1,877
M.O.C. #19944
Quote:
Originally Posted by beeje View Post
Yes, it can be rectified easily. Simply remove around $800 from your pocket and insert into a tire dealers hands and instruct them to install 5 new Sailun tires. LOL

One thing is for certain, you will be sorry if you don't do it when a trailer king tire blows and destroys your trailer.
We made it part of the deal when buying our 2020 373RD - Sailuns and Dometic 320 and Progressive EMS
__________________
RAM 22' DRW 3500 Crew LB 40 gal reserve tank / RETRAX Bed Cover / 2020 373RD HC / IS / MOPEKA Tank Monitor / Furrion Side&Rear Cameras
Slide Toppers / EMS-HW50C / Sailun 85's
3rd AC / Dometic 320
Ram Montana High Country is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2021, 01:33 PM   #16
rames14
Montana Master
 
rames14's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Livermore
Posts: 5,135
M.O.C. #1920
I am unsure which rims come on the High Country. To run G614’s or Sailun’s they need to be 110 psi wheels. Just a heads up before you order tires. It would be a bummer to order new tires and find out you can’t use the same wheels. Again, check the stamp on the back of the rims to make sure.
__________________
Ron and Terrie Ames - MOC #1920/KF0NTA
2021Montana 3230CK Super Solar Legacy Package
2021 Ram 3500 Laramie Longhorn, BIM Charging
4x4, SRW, LB, Crew Cab, Pullrite 3900 Hitch
rames14 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2021, 08:14 PM   #17
CalandLinda
Montana Master
 
CalandLinda's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Taylors
Posts: 562
M.O.C. #15948
Quote:
Originally Posted by rames14 View Post
I am unsure which rims come on the High Country. To run G614’s or Sailun’s they need to be 110 psi wheels. Just a heads up before you order tires. It would be a bummer to order new tires and find out you can’t use the same wheels. Again, check the stamp on the back of the rims to make sure.
I agree. Almost all OEM LRF tires are going to come on wheels/rims with a 95 maximum PSI rating. All of the 2020 High Country line-up are equipped with LRF tires. There was no reason for the OEM provider to use wheels rated higher than the trailer manufacturer's requirement.
CalandLinda is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2021, 08:26 AM   #18
Ram Montana High Country
Montana Master
 
Ram Montana High Country's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: POINTBLANK
Posts: 1,877
M.O.C. #19944
Quote:
Originally Posted by rames14 View Post
I am unsure which rims come on the High Country. To run G614’s or Sailun’s they need to be 110 psi wheels. Just a heads up before you order tires. It would be a bummer to order new tires and find out you can’t use the same wheels. Again, check the stamp on the back of the rims to make sure.
My '17 305RL and the 2020RD had 110PSI rated wheels
__________________
RAM 22' DRW 3500 Crew LB 40 gal reserve tank / RETRAX Bed Cover / 2020 373RD HC / IS / MOPEKA Tank Monitor / Furrion Side&Rear Cameras
Slide Toppers / EMS-HW50C / Sailun 85's
3rd AC / Dometic 320
Ram Montana High Country is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2021, 09:03 AM   #19
PSFORD99
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Centerville
Posts: 1,347
M.O.C. #9051
Quote:
Originally Posted by CalandLinda View Post
There are lots of different stories about tire quality. Here is another side of one of the stories.

https://www.rvweb.net/best-trailer-tires-reviewed/

I certainly hope you had tongue in cheek when you posted those reviews . Seriously
PSFORD99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2021, 09:04 AM   #20
jeffba
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Bastrop
Posts: 2,892
M.O.C. #20753
Quote:
Originally Posted by CalandLinda View Post
I agree. Almost all OEM LRF tires are going to come on wheels/rims with a 95 maximum PSI rating. All of the 2020 High Country line-up are equipped with LRF tires. There was no reason for the OEM provider to use wheels rated higher than the trailer manufacturer's requirement.
Money. Easier to stock and buy in bulk one size rim
__________________
Mocha, one-eyed toothless, hurricane survivor, Pirate dog
2019 20th Anniversary Edition 3701LK
B&W 20K for Ford OEM Puck
2018 Ford F-350 Lariat CCLB PSD DRW KJ5CQH
jeffba is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by Montana RV, Keystone RV Company or any of its affiliates. This is an independent, unofficial site.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:38 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.