Thinking of buying a montana 295rl

[twindman]

I was just saying if I reorganize the trailer I am within limits. The only thing on GVVR being meaningful (from what I can glean) is it is for braking or the frame. And since a 2500 and 3500 have (had?) the same frame, that is ruled out. And brakes were the same too. So what you have left is a spring leaf. So does that mean I just bottom out on bumps??? Not sure why it matters.

[81SHOVELHEAD]

No issues towing our 2021 Montana High Country 295RL with our 2015 2500 Hemi Ram rated to tow 12,850 with a payload capacity of 3130. Running with the Pullrite 2600 single point mount turnover ball hitch. Love the fact that hitch only weighs 60 lbs & easy to remove from bed when needed. Empty 11.300 with a pin weight of 2300.

[jsb5717]

Originally Posted by 81SHOVELHEAD

No issues towing our 2021 Montana High Country 295RL with our 2015 2500 Hemi Ram rated to tow 12,850 with a payload capacity of 3130. Running with the Pullrite 2600 single point mount turnover ball hitch. Love the fact that hitch only weighs 60 lbs & easy to remove from bed when needed. Empty 11.300 with a pin weight of 2300.

When you tow this trailer does it weigh 11,300 lbs? Since that's the weight when it left the assembly floor then no. Are you ever going to put anything in it? Loaded weight for your trailer is over 14,000 lbs. That's the number you should use when calc-ing tow ratings. 23% of GVWR is closer to 3000 lbs. Are you carrying anything in your truck? Other people? Gear? You can go to the scales to verify actual weights you're towing but you are likely over your truck's payload.

[81SHOVELHEAD]

Originally Posted by jsb5717

When you tow this trailer does it weigh 11,300 lbs? Since that's the weight when it left the assembly floor then no. Are you ever going to put anything in it? Loaded weight for your trailer is over 14,000 lbs. That's the number you should use when calc-ing tow ratings. 23% of GVWR is closer to 3000 lbs. Are you carrying anything in your truck? Other people? Gear? You can go to the scales to verify actual weights you're towing but you are likely over your truck's payload.

Did all the math already .batteries, propane ,fuel ,dog me & wife . As far as 14,000 lbs . Not gonna happen. Maybe 12,500 for extended stay as we travel light & don't carry water in our tanks as we don't boondock. We're at the top of our #s but doable with the Hemi Ram. Same truck with diesel engine looses 800 to 1000 payload capacity.

[jsb5717]

Good to hear...just trying to keep a consistent message for which numbers matter when matching RV to TV.

[dfb]

Originally Posted by 81SHOVELHEAD

No issues towing our 2021 Montana High Country 295RL with our 2015 2500 Hemi Ram rated to tow 12,850 with a payload capacity of 3130. Running with the Pullrite 2600 single point mount turnover ball hitch. Love the fact that hitch only weighs 60 lbs & easy to remove from bed when needed. Empty 11.300 with a pin weight of 2300.

Curious. How does this combo do pulling long steep grades?

[81SHOVELHEAD]

Not many long steep grades here in the Texas Hill country or the Texas/ Louisiana Gulf coast. This is where it will be used 95% of the time. For the other 5% we may venture into Colorado/ New Mexico . Hemi will be fine . 400 ft / lbs torque / 410 HP should be able to tow 12,500 K all day long with zero issues. Went with the 6.4 Hemi for the extra 1k payload capacity & couldn't justify the 10k upfront cost of a diesel engine & expence of required maintenance for where we tow 95% of the time . Here diesel fuel runs .40 cents a gallon more the Unleaded fuel.

[MJShultz]

I owned a 2020 2500HD and purchased a 295RL and when I weighed in the truck was already 480lbs overweight. Bought a 2021 3500HD dually and when I pull the camper it fells like I'm driving a SUV. ☺️

[Amydo62]

Originally Posted by boomer76

Thinking of buying a 2021 montana HC 295 rl with a weight of 11035 lbs, I have a 2018 3/4 ton GMC Durmax with allison transmission. Its hard to find weights that are safe to pull does anyone out there have a 295rl with 3/4 ton sit up like mine and do you have any issues with towing

We bought a 2023 Montana HC 295RL 1 month ago and are pulling it with a 2023 3/4 ton Chevy Silverado with diesel. We are having no issues pulling with 3/4 ton. Our truck is rated to pull 18,500#

[Sr. Oso]

We have a 2022 295 RL that I pull with a RAM 2500 diesel. I had 5k Airlift bags installed. I usually only need 15psi to level the truck out. It pulls, tows, and stops with with zero problems.

[Foldbak]

I have the same rig. No issues in 15K miles. I'm sure I'm slightly over tongue weight but it handles and stops great. Here we go

[Cat320]

It's always interesting to see who can come up with the most creative post to justify using a truck that is clearly over weight.

[mlh]

My HC 323 weighs 9400 pounds with a tongue weight of about 1900 pounds. My F150 has a tow limit of 12400 pounds. If I put enough weight in the back of my camper and removed enough weight to get my tongue weight down to the carry weight of my truck, and I could would that be safe?
Lynwood

[twindman]

And the hitch weight varies significantly by model. My 2013 was the lightest hitch weight of all the models that year - 2000 or 2100 lb per the specs and was the longest Mountaineer that year. I was running with my old rig at 2400 lb so thought I would be great. The placement of the axles changes the hitch weight a lot even on a rig that weighs the same.

Well loaded I am at 2400 or 2500 lb. So I am 400 over GVWR, but right at the rear axle limit (and tires). So would I like more GVWR - yes, but not if I have to drive a dually which will NOT fight in my garage.

[jsb5717]

Originally Posted by twindman

… So would I like more GVWR - yes, but not if I have to drive a dually which will NOT fight in my garage.

You don’t have to jump up to a dually to gain adequate payload over a 2012 2500. Just one year newer, and a 3500, would gain you a lot of payload over your current set up. Not a bigger truck, just more capacity.

My 2012 RAM 3500 SRW had a payload of 2910lbs. A 2013 RAM 3500 SRW jumps up nearly 1000lbs.

[Cat320]

One item not many consider is GCWR. That used to be a problem with the gasser 250/2500 series trucks....don't know about now.

[twindman]

I sort of forgot about upgrading to a 3500. I knew this at one time. And a year after purchase or so I wished I had bought a 3500. I thought they would be $3-5000 more money, but found out it was only around $1500 or so.