Thumbs up for Smith and Wesson (Gun thread) - Page 4 - Montana Owners Club

Lee F. · 08-22-2012, 04:55 AM

Up here in northern NY finding a place to shoot is easy. I have been an NRA rifle, pistol and shotgun instructor for over 30 years. Used to instruct boy scouts when I was still working as an LEO. I still shoot a lot. Got into cowboy action shooting a few years ago and go through about 5000 rounds of .38 spc. a year, several cases of 12 ga. and a bunch of 45 Long Colt and 45 acp. I could never afford the ammo if I didn't have my Dillon 650. I'm not as good or as fast as I used to be but I still hit what I aim at. I qualify annually under HR-218 for nationwide concealed carry.

Ozz · 08-22-2012, 01:18 PM

Lee, I have always wanted to do that, but I figured I would shoot off one of my Piggies....

Lee F. · 08-23-2012, 02:32 AM

Ozz, If you ever watched a match and like shooting you'd be hooked.

Ozz · 08-23-2012, 03:02 AM

Is it just the fast draw, or do you actually have to be in the rings of the target?
It has always intrigued me..

Lee F. · 08-23-2012, 08:09 AM

Actually there is no fast draw or targets with circles. All the targets are steel plates that you have to hit with your single action revolvers and lever action rifle plus steel knockdown targets for the shotgun. You are given an order to shoot them in and you are timed for the stage. You get seconds added to your score for each miss and the lowest scores win.
This is a link to a video of the NY State championship held each year at my club near Saratoga, NY. A match usually has from five to ten stages. Western dress is required to compete.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O433W...feature=relmfu

richfaa · 08-23-2012, 08:42 AM

Over the years we did many things.NRA since the early 60's. Instructed in home firearms safety and hunter safety. Camp Perry small arms firing school. DCM qualifications till the program stopped. Member of several clubs over the years, did my own reloading for many years. Deer and bear hunter small game for years.as swell as . Being from western PA a firearm was something you just had. Still like to shoot when we can SIL has a range on his proptery.
Time marches on, things change.
My favorite is the Ruger 22 cal long rifle mark11 target....kept that one/

Ozz · 08-23-2012, 09:17 AM

Lee, I will look at the link. I think the period dress would be fun!
Rich, the favorite firearm gave me an idea. I have a favorite as well
And, you are so right, time changes so many things, and the many ways we enjoy the shooting sport.

Favorite firearm? no cheating, you have to pick just one..rifle, or handgun.

I think my all time favorite is my Browning .22 semi auto. It is a work of art. Even the folks that don't care about recreational shooting should appreciate it's form, beauty and craftsmanship.

mlh · 08-23-2012, 02:46 PM

Nice wood Ozz. I had a buddy who owned a Remington that was made on the Browning design. It was just like the Browning. It was the gallery special.
My favorite. Ain't got a clue. I'm a Gounod hog hunter. I've had lots of ground hog guns, a 222, 22 250, 25 06, 243, 243 improved, and others. The best one is my 20x47. At 500 yards a ground hag is history and the bullet never comes out of him.
A long time ago a friend gave me a barrel another gave me a stock. I had a trigger so all I needed was an action, so I made one. It was crude but we killed a lot of ground hogs with it and it would shoot under a half inch at 100 yards.
My first try at gun smithing didn't go as well. I had a 22 with a bent barrel. so I decided to turn it into a 22 mag. I was taking machine shop in school. I didn't know about chambering reamers so I used a drill a little larger than the case. Got her all finished held it down in front of me and pulled the trigger. Blowed it plum out of the stock which was in 3 pieces. That ended my gun smithing for about 10 years.
When we were in school you could take your gun to school. I went to school with a boy who built muzzle loaders in his shop class. The principle told him he would never amount to anything fooling with those old guns. He became the head gun smith at Williamsburg Va. and along the way reinvented the way guns were made in that period.
Lynwood

seahunter · 08-23-2012, 03:48 PM

This is what I carried as a reserve police officer for a few years. I like the look with the extended extractor shroud and it added a little weight of course to the front of the barrel.

Model 686 with 4" barrel.

seahunter · 08-23-2012, 04:04 PM

I have been surprised at how many here have been or currently are in law enforcement. I've seen Dick post this, and Michael and a few others. Was just curious if anyone else wants to share their current or prior LE work...

I was a reserve police officer for a large city in Oregon. Was just like a "regular" officer, just did not get paid. They actually let me begin the academy at twenty years old, as I turned 21 two weeks before graduation. It was a great experience and I really enjoyed doing it for about four years. Unfortunately this was at a time when it was impossible to get a regular position without some sort of deformity, gender issue, etc. with the quota hiring, so I ultimately decided to head back to college and finish up my degree.

Ozz · 08-23-2012, 04:20 PM

Well, I know I am not alone in expressing my appreciation and thanks for all who serve and protect, Police and Firefighters alike. My hat is off to you all, thank you.

**DQDick** · 08-23-2012, 04:37 PM

My favorite over the years was my service revolver a Colt Trooper Mark III. Honestly I really like my new Governor and would guess that's going to be my favorite going forward.

stiles watson · 08-23-2012, 05:37 PM

Had a WWI Springfield 30.06 bolt action. Super accurate rifle. I got so old that I couldn't handle the recoil. It kicked me into next week. So I sold it and bought a Bersa Thunder .380 to carry and a Bersa Thunder .22 to practice. Decided on bigger caliber and picked up a S&W M&P Shield.40. Now I pocket carry the Shield .40, shoot the BT .380 once in a while. Plink and practice with the BT .22. All three are within a couple of ounces of each other and feel very similar in my hand and all are very concealable.

To practice, all I have to do is get me an 8" paper plate, draw a 2" circle on it and tack it to a block section of a downed tree setting on a stump, making the center about 4' tall, the back off and fire away.

I do great on paper plates. Varmints, on the other hand, are safest if I am aiming at them. They seem to be smaller than paper plates.

Ozz · 08-24-2012, 02:00 AM

That Shield is nice! Didn't know they made them, looks a little like my Glocks.
It is good to have the .22 as well, smart to have similar frames to keep continuity.

**DQDick** · 08-24-2012, 03:13 AM

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quote:Originally posted by Ozz

That Shield is nice! Didn't know they made them, looks a little like my Glocks.
It is good to have the .22 as well, smart to have similar frames to keep continuity.

X2. Look like nice weapons.

stiles watson · 08-24-2012, 08:10 AM

I don't hunt any more, so all I have is the home defense and self-defense issues. I am too old and slow to run and to weak to fight. Dianna can't really see very well, so I'd rather be questioned by the police than become an item on their statistical report after a critical incident.

The Bersa is a very underrated and comparatively inexpensive gun that is accurate and has a life time warranty to the original owner.

Fulltimers almost · 03-28-2015, 02:38 AM

Ok, here is a question. We are getting ready to full time and I have a hand gun 22, and two rifles both collector type. As you travel from state to state how do you remain legal?

MIMF · 03-28-2015, 03:04 AM

As long as they are unloaded, you should be fine. You didn't say whether or not you have carry permit for the handgun.

On another note, Ozz, I have that very same weapon with a Lazer grip sight. It is the 3rd
S & W I own. The other 2 are the model M&P 40 in 5 inch and the M&P model 15 AR in 5.56X.45 Nato/.223. All are loads of fun at the range.

mlh · 03-28-2015, 03:50 AM

Are we always legal to carry weapons in our temporary home our camper. I know some states are very strict on hand guns, New Jersey comes to mind.
Lynwood

**DQDick** · 03-28-2015, 04:51 AM

It can be an issue in some states and even what kind of guns you have can be an issue. Two of my three guns are illegal to own in California. In states like New York, New Jersey and Illinois it's best not to mention you have them and for sure don't show someone you have them and that way you don't have to be a test case in court. They're still in my rig in those states, however. First of all we full time and second I still believe that if I need them "it's better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6".

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