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01-19-2021, 08:13 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 1,788
M.O.C. #14547
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Good grief - how much warning do we need
I just had to look in the Atwood IB for a part for our range. The parts list is pretty self explanatory except that the part, grate grommet, seem to have a different number now that Atwood is now Dometic.
With that said - of the 8 pages of "information" at least 50% is warning me of damage, destruction or - shudder - death. OK, I understand that propane appliance can be dangerous but does every paragraph need to start with a warning box? Oh, and the Atwood furnace and HW heaters are the same way, making reading them tedious.
OK, rant done, soap box stored until next time
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Dave W
2014 Montana High Country 343RL (Sold!)
2011 Ford 6.7 Lariat CCLB (Went to PU Heaven)
2019 F150SC XLT SE Sport,w/full tow package
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01-19-2021, 08:34 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Charleston
Posts: 456
M.O.C. #23094
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Are you Hangry? Try a Snickers.
But watch out for the wrapper. Can cause serious injury or death from paper cut.
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2019 Montana HC 310RE
2010 Wildcat 29RLBS
2014 Ford F-350 Lariat 6.7
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01-19-2021, 10:31 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Wilsey
Posts: 18,799
M.O.C. #11455
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It's all about the lawyers. If you buy a box of dilly bars from Dairy Queen you find a large box on one side that says "Warning frozen product may stick to lips and tongue".
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Dick, Joyce, Diego, Picatso and Gustav
2017 3720 RL, and 2013 HC 343RL
Pullrite Hitch, IS, Disk Brakes, 3rd AC, Winegard Traveler, Bathroom door mod, Dometic 320, couch for desk swap, replaced chairs, sun screens, added awnings, etc.
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01-19-2021, 12:55 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 7,558
M.O.C. #2283
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It’s really about people wonting to get rich and the lawyers putting half the money in their pockets. I can’t blame the lawyers as much as the people they represent.
Lynwood
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01-19-2021, 01:06 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Pensacola (mail forward service)
Posts: 3,198
M.O.C. #13740
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All those stove grate rubber inserts that I have seen have all been the same Andi found them in several rv stores like camping world, la mesa, etc. Yeah, the documentation is a real CYA situation.
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2012 F350 6.7 L dually, 2013 3800RE with 6 pt leveling, Sumitomo 17.5" load range h tires, Samsung 18 cu ft residential fridge, 8k Morryde I.S. with disc brakes. Full timing since 2012.
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01-19-2021, 02:37 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Haysville
Posts: 4,261
M.O.C. #3085
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I got a dash camera for Christmas ... 6 pages total in the manual. 5 pages of warnings ... 2/3 page for setup and use ... just crazy.
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01-19-2021, 02:47 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Anytown
Posts: 609
M.O.C. #10966
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Here is Taxifornia, virtually EVERYTHING has a warning label for Proposition 65 that warns us that EVERYTHING you can buy may, or may contain, something that MAY cause cancer.
This includes my truck. Yes, driving my truck may cause cancer and so may just about anything else you can buy.
Yes folks...it's a VERY dangerous world we live in!
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2011 Montana 3580RL with a Reese 20k GooseBox w/offset B&W ball, Sailuns, RoadMaster shocks, Splendide stacked washer/dryer, some other stuff...
2015 Ram 3500 DRW Laramie Megacab, Aisin w/3.73s, 255/80 17 Toyos A/T III, rear auto level, 40 gal. fuel/tool combo box, some Banks mods...
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01-19-2021, 02:48 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 1,788
M.O.C. #14547
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I have no problem if the warnings are all on the first few pages and then I can skip them if I feel comfortable with that product. It's that Atwood put their warnings at the beginning of every paragraph. At least they didn't do it in three languages, all stacked up together one after the other as some other products.
Now about that clothes iron of my wifes that warns not to iron while wearing the clothing.....
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Dave W
2014 Montana High Country 343RL (Sold!)
2011 Ford 6.7 Lariat CCLB (Went to PU Heaven)
2019 F150SC XLT SE Sport,w/full tow package
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01-20-2021, 06:46 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: westminster md
Posts: 2,321
M.O.C. #17894
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Ya just can not fix stupid. That's why they are there.
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2018 Chevy 3500 LTZ Dually Diesel 4x4 CCLB
2011 Montana 3455 SA. 6 point level up. Disc brakes. Curt Q24 Hitch. 5 step glow steps
Progressive EMS. Valterra tank valves. Sailun G637 tires. ARP fridge control. All led lighting. Mor Ryde IS
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01-20-2021, 07:27 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 7,558
M.O.C. #2283
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Quote:
Originally Posted by R.S.O'Donnell
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We live close to NS main line. A few years ago this is exactly what has to two boys near here. They were crossing RR bridge and got hit. They could have easily jumped off and probably had a few brushes maybe a broken bone or two. A guy that works in my shop had to pick them up. He doesn’t talk about people who got hit by a train much but I know it isn’t pretty.
Lynwood
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01-24-2021, 01:47 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: Benton City
Posts: 30
M.O.C. #27463
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ALWAYS someone who will put that plastic over theyre head!!!!!
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01-24-2021, 02:45 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Livingston
Posts: 21
M.O.C. #18893
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Anybody remember their first experience with warning labels. Mine was working in a store in the late 60’s/early 70’s and we got in a shipment of lawn darts with a warning not to throw them at people. Obviously, the first thing we did was go out on the loading dock and throw them at each other. Do bb guns warn about putting your eye out now?
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01-24-2021, 02:53 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Reno
Posts: 293
M.O.C. #22620
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Enough warning to satisfy the lawyers and fend off frivolous law suits.
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01-24-2021, 02:57 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: USA
Posts: 610
M.O.C. #25842
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I remember people in Florida trying to get reimbursed for pothole damage. Officials often used "obvious hazard" as a defense. So basically unless you couldn't see it or it was unavoidable you got nothing. I know it's just a pipe dream... but I'd like to see more of this type of logic. There have been lots of instances where I would have liked to see the underside of my vehicle up on a lift but insurance regs wouldn't allow it.
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01-24-2021, 03:12 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: Benton City
Posts: 30
M.O.C. #27463
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Insurance
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01-25-2021, 04:43 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: westminster md
Posts: 2,321
M.O.C. #17894
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Quote:
Originally Posted by R.S.O'Donnell
I remember people in Florida trying to get reimbursed for pothole damage. Officials often used "obvious hazard" as a defense. So basically unless you couldn't see it or it was unavoidable you got nothing. I know it's just a pipe dream... but I'd like to see more of this type of logic. There have been lots of instances where I would have liked to see the underside of my vehicle up on a lift but insurance regs wouldn't allow it.
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I have never once bought a vehicle without having it put up in the air for me so I can look underneath. If they won't do it I will buy it.
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01-25-2021, 07:50 AM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Hereford,AZ
Posts: 93
M.O.C. #23139
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Creeker
Are you Hangry? Try a Snickers.
But watch out for the wrapper. Can cause serious injury or death from paper cut.
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Thanks for the warning!
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2018 Ram 3500 Laramie Longhorn DRW, Aisin, 4:10, B&W 3600 Companion
2019 3121RL Montana 20th Anniversary Edition
Did you ever stop to think, and forgot to start again?
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01-25-2021, 08:48 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: USA
Posts: 610
M.O.C. #25842
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Quote:
Originally Posted by beeje
I have never once bought a vehicle without having it put up in the air for me so I can look underneath. If they won't do it I will buy it.
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Totally get that.
Mine beef is when it's in the shop for something. Private shops seem to be a bit more lenient. I've never been to a dealership that allowed anybody in the service bay. And with things being the way they are I get it. Too many ways to get sued.
In my opinion a simple "Enter At Your Own Risk" sign should be sufficient to eliminate ALL liability.
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01-25-2021, 09:12 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Georgetown
Posts: 307
M.O.C. #18751
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mlh
It’s really about people wonting to get rich and the lawyers putting half the money in their pockets. I can’t blame the lawyers as much as the people they represent.
Lynwood
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What Lynwood said!^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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